Yosemite Upgrade Warning

[Kremlin Watcher]

I just upgraded my OS on my MacBook Pro to Yosemite.
 
If you have a Mac and haven't yet performed this upgrade, DON'T!!!
 
Although it has some cool features and a nice look, it is super RAM hungry and pretty much guaranteed to reduce performance to a crawl. All functions on my machine are now significantly slower and more buggy than with the previous OS. Other problems include non-functioning USB ports and failure to recognize a keyboard on my mom's new iMac, and a completely corrupted hard drive on my daughter's MacBook Pro, which she how has to wipe completely. Apple has no answers yet.
 
Wait until they fix this crap before you ruin your computer. This new OS really, really sucks.

 

[TSC]

I've had no issues.

 

[88 MVP]

Sorry to hear about your issues with USB ports and the corrupted hard drive, that sucks. As for performance, I was running the last three beta versions and now the public release of Yosemite with no noticeable change in memory usage or slowness coming from Mavericks. I'm on a 2013 MacBook Pro - I can't speak to how well older machines might handle the upgrade.

 

[DJnVa]

Yeah, saw this listed under Recent Topics, which doesn't show the forum.
 
I thought the super volcano was about to blow.

 

[derekson]

Yosemite has been great for me even since the beta versions. If anything it's faster than Mavericks was, and in my opinion the new aesthetic looks far more clean and modern.

 

[Kremlin Watcher]

That's weird. Any ideas about why these three machines might be having such bad luck?

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I've had no problems with it either. What are you upgrading from? Yosemite seems a little bit better than Mavericks, but Mavericks was noticeably worse than Mountain Lion.

 

[soxhop411]

That's weird. Any ideas about why these three machines might be having such bad luck?

If you have a back up of all your systems. Try a clean install

 

[rembrat]

 The only huge application I run is my IDE (phpstorm rocks!) and I haven't noticed any issues. 

 

[TheWinkleman]

I haven't encountered any problems with it. However, a relative's computer failed to boot normally after the update. It would crash unless he logged in as a guest or used safe mode. The problem turned out to be a conflict with a McAfee security program. Once that program was uninstalled, the computer had no issues. So maybe a similar conflict is causing the issues you're describing. From what I recall, Yosemite is supposed to have the same system requirements as Mavericks, but I could be wrong.

 

[B H Kim]

I haven't had any problems with Yosemite on my 2011 MacBook Pro.  How much RAM do you have installed?  I was having some issues with programs hanging and freezing under Mavericks, but adding RAM (to 16 GB) took care of it.

 

[canderson]

Yosemite to me is faster than Mavericks, and not by a small touch. It is a great upgrade IMO.

 

[mauidano]

So far so good with the MacBook Pro and the MacBook Air.  Haven't noticed any issues after the upgrade to Yosemite.

 

[Fisks Of Fury]

I've seen no perfomance impacts at all.
 
The only issues I've had:
- My older CheckPoint VPN client ceaased to work, but upgrading it to a newer version solved that
- Safari has occasionally seemed to stop connecting, while if I jump over to Chrome, all is good.  But today, for example, I've had no problems at all

 

[barbed wire Bob]

Yeah, saw this listed under Recent Topics, which doesn't show the forum.
 
I thought the super volcano was about to blow.

Wrong park.

 

[DJnVa]

Wrong park.

 
There's that too.
 

 

[Kremlin Watcher]

Well I guess I am an outlier then.
 
Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[Blacken]

I have four Macs, three eligible for a Yosemite upgrade, and all have improved perf. More RAM usage, but who cares, RAM is cheap, future-proof when you buy it. (My mini has 16GB aftermarket, my Air has 8GB, my rMBP has 16GB.)
 
More importantly, systemstatsd has stopped jumping off into space and pinning a CPU, as it really liked doing under Mavericks.

 

[uncannymanny]

Blacken, do you work with any developers that have upgraded (web, iOS, etc)? I'm a little nervous since I'm allowed to do whatever to my work machine but if I end up unable to use a crucial app I'm going to have to explain myself and have the company give me a new machine in the meantime.

Specifically curious about Python and Ruby as well as Xcode.

 

[ifmanis5]

I've read a few horror stories online about Yosemite and Adobe installs. 
 
Honestly, I don't know why people rush to upgrade to new .0 OS releases. Let the dust settle.

 

[derekson]

I think CS5 and possibly CS6 have issues with Yosemite but if you have the current subscription based Adobe suite I believe it's fine,

 

[canderson]

I have CS6 had Yosemite and have used all products without issues. It was installed already though.

 

[Traut]

I've installed Yosemite on three of my Macs without any problem. This is an outstanding update. Really builds on the promise of Mavericks. Worth it for the updates to spotlight search alone.

 

[Blacken]

Blacken, do you work with any developers that have upgraded (web, iOS, etc)? I'm a little nervous since I'm allowed to do whatever to my work machine but if I end up unable to use a crucial app I'm going to have to explain myself and have the company give me a new machine in the meantime.

Specifically curious about Python and Ruby as well as Xcode.

Uh, I am a developer.

 

[johnmd20]

Uh, I am a developer.

 
He meant real developers.

 

[Blacken]

I'm sorry, but what are you doing in here when you have shitty pop culture to be nasal and pissy over?

 

[MakMan44]

I just upgraded and everything seems to be running smoothly 

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Ok something might be off. Noticed on my 13" Macbook Air (mid 2011), it's supposedly been asleep with a closed lid for the past 6 hours, but I just went to open it and it was warm, seemed like the fan was on too. Might be a fluke. But this has been an issue before for Airs that required an OS update, so who knows.

 

[derekson]

Do you have Power Nap turned on?

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

Do you have Power Nap turned on?

 
yup, but I don't think anything was actively being loaded. Ah maybe the new icloud stuff is keeping it active...

 

[dirtynine]

I upgraded a fairly old (2011) Mac Mini and while it's not amazing (a bit of lag, etc.) it's pretty good considering. Turning off transparency and setting scrollbars to always show helps it feel snappier. 

 

[nighthob]

I suspect that older 4gb systems might have problems with Yosemite (and maybe even 8gb ones with older processors). What systems do you have it installed on? I have noticed that my spare MacMini (circa 2009) with 8gb lags a little after the upgrade from Mountain Lion. But I've had no issues on the 16gb rMBP, aside from the Return of iBooks. But you can uninstall iBooks (I always do because it really sucks).

 

[nighthob]

Weird. I would think the processor had the horsepower for Yosemite. Pull up the activity monitor the next time Safari lags to see what sort of CPU time and ram it's devouring. Also look at the other running processes because it's possible there's a conflict there.

 

[uncannymanny]

Uh, I am a developer.

Weird, I had inferred that you were more on the systems side. Have you upgraded on any machines you work on?

 

[Blacken]

Yeah, no, I'm not a cable puller.

I've upgraded every machine I have. It works fine.

 

[uncannymanny]

Yeah, no, I'm not a cable puller.

I've upgraded every machine I have. It works fine.

 
I think was because you seemed to have a lot of knowledge in that area in another thread. Didn't mean to offend; SOSH doesn't have Linkedin profiles. Anyway, much appreciate the info.

 

[derekson]

Command-Shift-3 has been the command for a screen shot on Macs forever.

 

[Gdiguy]

Command-Shift-3 has been the command for a screen shot on Macs forever.

 
Also the "Grab" tool (spotlight search) will let you do screen caps of only a certain desktop area

 

[derekson]

So will command-shift-4.

 

[derekson]

Thanks. This is my first Mac so I'm not familiar with the shorthand. Next time i see a pinwheel, I'll grab it and hopefully someone can help me out, because its really fucking annoying. Before the update i had literally zero complaints about my first Mac, but the last few weeks it's driving me insane. 

 
 
Two questions: have you tried resetting Safari (clearing all history, caches, cookies, etc.)? do you have any extensions installed in Safari?

 

[BS_SoxFan]

I have a 2009 MacBook Pro that I basically only use to surf the web, download podcasts, and occasionally work remotely.  Is this going to destroy my system or bring it to a crawl? 

 

[crystalline]

Thanks. This is my first Mac so I'm not familiar with the shorthand. Next time i see a pinwheel, I'll grab it and hopefully someone can help me out, because its really fucking annoying. Before the update i had literally zero complaints about my first Mac, but the last few weeks it's driving me insane. 

Screencaps won't help. Pinwheel in Safari is almost certainly due to memory being full. How much ram does your system have? 8GB is best, at 4GB you run the risk of memory filling.
Best way to diagnose is to keep Activity Monitor open, sort processes by resident memory (not total memory). That will tell you which programs are taking up space. Also you may wish to use Chrome instead and keep open its task manager which will tell you which tabs take up most memory.

Edit: desired number is resident memory or RSIZE. http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/104/whats-the-difference-between-real-virtual-shared-and-private-memory

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I have a 2009 MacBook Pro that I basically only use to surf the web, download podcasts, and occasionally work remotely.  Is this going to destroy my system or bring it to a crawl? 

 
What OS is in there now?

 

[B H Kim]

I have a 2009 MacBook Pro that I basically only use to surf the web, download podcasts, and occasionally work remotely.  Is this going to destroy my system or bring it to a crawl? 

 
I upgraded my daughter's 2008 iMac directly from Lion (10.7) to Yosemite and she says it's been running fine.  (I should note that I also increased the RAM from 2 GB to 6 GB at the same time, so any Yosemite slowdowns were probably more than offset by performance improvements due to the RAM increase.)

 

[ifmanis5]

Now that Avid qualified Media Composer for Yosemite I made the upgrade to YOS and I like it a lot.
However, I have noticed one issue- on two different occasions I was not able to save to the Macintosh HD, only to an external drive. Looks like a permissions error even though I am the only user and the official Admin. Anybody else have this or know how to fix it? So far I just restart and it's fine.

 

[SoxFanInPdx]

I have a late model 2011 Macbook Pro and installing Mavericks was a nightmare. Caused a panic loop that kept powering my laptop on and off. I'm scared to do any iOS upgrades after that.

 

[derekson]

Now that Avid qualified Media Composer for Yosemite I made the upgrade to YOS and I like it a lot.
However, I have noticed one issue- on two different occasions I was not able to save to the Macintosh HD, only to an external drive. Looks like a permissions error even though I am the only user and the official Admin. Anybody else have this or know how to fix it? So far I just restart and it's fine.

Sounds like you need to repair permissions in Disk Utility.

 

[ifmanis5]

Sounds like you need to repair permissions in Disk Utility.

Will try that, thanks.

 

[dirtynine]

A week ago I would have said this thread was crazy.  But I've started to get GPU kernel panics that blank the screen and occasionally restart the machine (retina MBP).  It's definitely getting really old. 

 

[derekson]

GPU kernel panics sound like something that'd result from overheating GPU or a fried GPU more so than software, but I could be wrong.