On the other hand, if he'd accept being a two-down back who isn't the featured offensive weapon, the Patriots are well-stocked with third-down options.NE's situation is the complete opposite of what his desired situation seems to be. I hope and trust this is just due diligence/doing a vet a solid and giving him some good PR.
Hard to predict this one, but I'm with you.Dont really like this one. Hope it doesn't work out.
Hard to really gauge AP considering how colossally terrible that O-Line was and a limited sample size. I won't believe AP is cooked until I see it...he's a freak.There were nearly 300 carries in this offense for Blount last year. I know part of that was them leaning on the running game with Brady out but I think there are plenty of carries for Peterson. The real question to me is what this staff thinks of what's left of his skills. Doubt they sign him but will be interesting to follow.
I think this is a good point. Blount got the carries and 18 touchdowns to go with them. And Peterson would likely fill the exact same roll. This is a good pitch to Peterson. At the same time Blount in past seasons has got about half as many carries as he did this year. Plus we seem to have more depth at running back this year than last--Burkhead, Lewis is healthy, White is more experienced.There were nearly 300 carries in this offense for Blount last year. I know part of that was them leaning on the running game with Brady out but I think there are plenty of carries for Peterson. The real question to me is what this staff thinks of what's left of his skills. Doubt they sign him but will be interesting to follow.
Sure, he is less expensive than what the media is reporting AP wants. I doubt the Patriots pay that amount.I don't see how Peterson, off what he showed in 2016, is likely any better than LGBT. Blount is a known fit, popular with his teammates and the Minutemen, and likely less expensive.
Edit: Or... what E5Yaz said.
I get not liking the idea, but there's no reason to think they are giving the guy $5 mil right now. Let's wait and see if they sign him, and on what terms first...I would offer him the vet minimum with maybe some incentives if that. $5 million would be crazy and super puzzling from a roster construction/cap allocation standpoint. Why sign Burkhead to a one year deal for decent money? Why have all the RBs on the roster come up for free agency next year?
If they go this route I'd guess it means they are moving on from Lewis for whatever reason and see AP as better for the early down/carry workload role but this would be about as much of a head scratcher as I've seen from the Pats. I'd guess this is just kicking the tires/BB showing respect to a great player.
Since NE has the reputation for paying short money, couldn't the upshot of a not-signing just as easily be, "They think he's got a lot left, but they are unwilling to pay for it"?Why would you want to go to the Patriots first? If they don't sign you doesn't that tell other teams something you may not want them to know?
I think he's a fit on the field. The only sticking points to me is whether Kraft wants to associate with the shitstorm that comes with Peterson off the field and money. The fact that he's coming in for a visit signals to me that RK is OK with his off the field stuff.
When I first saw this, I thought it screamed "BB is bringing AP in for a visit so that Blount accepts the fact that he is getting $1.5 million to re-sign with the Pats."This is obviously an offshoot from Peterson ... but why not just sign Blount?
I thiought of this type of play as well, but it also reminded me of this rule change for this season:2) Something I noticed a lot in 2016 was the Patriots running Blount outside while the WR crackblocked inside, forcing CB to try to tackle Blount. This is a great counter to teams that flood the middle to take away the slot / TE passing game, matching up the massive Blount on corners.
I guess that will come down to what they consider a "backfield player" in motionMakes crackback blocks prohibited by a backfield player who is in motion, even if he is not more than two yards outside the tackle when the ball is snapped.
I should say that while I am *vehemently* against corporeal punishment, the texts between AP and his ex suggested to me something that was cultural not malicious in its nature. Peterson seemed to have absolutely no idea that what he was doing was wrong -- it was how he was raised, he felt he had grown up into a man being raised that way and thought he was punishing his child appropriately. Obviously, it's not right -- and is absolutely the wrong way to discipline a child.The only sticking points to me is whether Kraft wants to associate with the shitstorm that comes with Peterson off the field and money. The fact that he's coming in for a visit signals to me that RK is OK with his off the field stuff.
Seconded. Don't want him at any price.Regardless, football is hard enough to watch. I doubt the Patriots are all saints, but I really dont need more cognitive dissonance. And since its all about me, I hope he goes elsewhere.
You may be right about this, BTW. That was absolutely horrible -- and I should probably reacquaint myself with the facts of the case. I was simply saying in my previous post that there was something surprising to me about how completely ... innocent Peterson was in describing the abuse, tho that word feels wrong to use. It was hard for me to reconcile with the acts themselves.Seconded. Don't want him at any price.
The part of the child abuse story that always got me was where he took the leaves off the switch and stuffed them into the kid's mouth before beating him. Say whatever you want about having "gotten carried away" or whatever but that just always reflected some depraved stuff to me. The pictures were graphic and got the headlines. But the leaves. I can't get past the leaves. I'll get over it but it would be hard to watch him in a Patriots uniform. I don't think I could get past the leaves every time I saw him.
It's really hard to put yourself in another person's shoes. I agree that there was definitely a sense that he viewed what he did as normal and was surprised it wasn't -- although some of the texts indicated that he knew he had gone too far by hitting the child in the genital area. I don't know if he was being duplicitous or not. He did seem genuine. Still, I just have a problem getting past doing what he did to a 4 year old boy and have trouble imagining that while he was doing it it didn't feel wrong, whatever his moral calibration on normal based on his life experience.You may be right about this, BTW. That was absolutely horrible -- and I should probably reacquaint myself with the facts of the case. I was simply saying in my previous post that there was something surprising to me about how completely ... innocent Peterson was in describing the abuse, tho that word feels wrong to use. It was hard for me to reconcile with the acts themselves.
"No one knows how I felt when I turned my child around after spanking him and seeing what I had left on his leg," Peterson said. "No one knows that Dad sat there and apologized to him, hugged him and told him that I didn't mean to do this to you and how sorry I was.
"I love my son. I love my kids, my family. Like I said after I took the misdemeanor plea, I take full responsibility for my actions. I regret the situation. I love my son more than any one of you could even imagine."
All they care about is, 'Hey, these are the pictures. They say that he put leaves in his mouth. They say that he beat him. They say that I hit his hands (and those were) defensive wounds.' "
All of those allegations are false, Peterson said, repeating what he told police: He had his son take off his pants and whipped him with a switch, which he didn't realize was wrapping around the boy's thigh and leaving marks.
Very fair perspective.Count my out on this one. I know not all players are angels, but Peterson is POS and child abuser. It wasn't just one incident and he didn't deny most of it. He's an old RB and not even remotely worth the hassle. Even if he was a 26 year old AP it'd be a tough pill to swallow. F' this. I wouldn't even offer him the veteran minimum.