WS GAME thread: NYM vs. KC

Who do you want to win?


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Van Everyman

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Shane said:
He can still sing though.
Tony Bennett has never been about range, he's been about phrasing and whether your eight, nine, or 89 your phrasing never goes. It was still pretty awesome.
 

Shane

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Van Everyman said:
Tony Bennett has never been about range, he's been about phrasing and whether your eight, nine, or 89 your phrasing never goes. It was still pretty awesome.
That's right - personally Tony is my favorite after Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Bobby Darin, and Anita O'Day.
 

kieckeredinthehead

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OK- and sorry for the on-topic post- 
 
Everybody keeps talking about how the Royals' hitters adapt eventually to different ways of pitching them, and I think there's some truth to that, but man, in Game 7 last year, when MadBum came in, they were swinging at everything and he knew it. Blows my mind that pretty much the whole team started swinging at everything. I suppose it's just that he had gotten in their heads, and as a smart pitcher, took full advantage of it.
 
They seem to be a tougher group this year, more experienced, and yeah, a bit of luck isn't hurting them one bit- they're taking full advantage of those breaks.
I don't think the Royals hitters do "adjust." They're all really good contact guys who can get around on heat. Bumgarner succeeded by pitching backwards the whole game and staying out of the zone. Think about the final out of the game vs. Perez. The problem is that the Mets pitchers need to adjust. They're already reducing their fastball %, but I can't imagine it's easy to adjust on the fly like that, especially for a bunch of youngsters.

Take a team that's really good at making contact and pair them with a team that's built around throwing hard (and a defense built around the theory that most of the opposing hitters will strike out anyway), and you get what we've seen. The Royals are a very, very good team and they are built to confound most other good team's strengths.
 

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Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat said:
As a pure Mets fan, you feeling any optimism?
 
Sure!
 
After seeing Boston in '04 (and the Ortiz homer in '13), I've learned to never give up hope... and if they can win tonight, all they need is a couple lucky dominant starts from DeGrom & Syndergaard and who knows what'll happen... I'm definitely not confident, but the nice thing about the Mets staff is that dominant pitching can sometimes just take over
 

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kieckeredinthehead said:
I don't think the Royals hitters do "adjust." They're all really good contact guys who can get around on heat. Bumgarner succeeded by pitching backwards the whole game and staying out of the zone. Think about the final out of the game vs. Perez. The problem is that the Mets pitchers need to adjust. They're already reducing their fastball %, but I can't imagine it's easy to adjust on the fly like that, especially for a bunch of youngsters.

Take a team that's really good at making contact and pair them with a team that's built around throwing hard (and a defense built around the theory that most of the opposing hitters will strike out anyway), and you get what we've seen. The Royals are a very, very good team and they are built to confound most other good team's strengths.
 
I agree with this - the Mets threw the highest % of strikes this year, which seems to have been a deliberate effort to decrease walks... which worked great for most of the season, but agains the Royals that may actually be a net negative strategy
 

rembrat

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I'm going to need a Met to sit on that inside 2seam fastball and launch on it. He's throwing that there with too much cinfidence.
 

Gdiguy

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rembrat said:
I'm going to need a Met to sit on that inside 2seam fastball and launch on it. He's throwing that there with too much cinfidence.
 
Murphy and Duda in particular, both of them have good power in that area, I'm surprised by how often they're taking it
 

kieckeredinthehead

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The other thing about the Royals is that, like the 2013 Sox, they are a real team - the sum is far greater than the individual parts.
 

Gdiguy

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rembrat said:
Keep Escobar off the bases and you keep them off the board.
 
D'Arnaud's inability to throw out runners is a surprising negative the entire series - compounded by the Royals being (mostly) fast, I feel like half the lineup is freely taking 2nd on any walk / single / error
 

InsideTheParker

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Gdiguy said:
 
D'Arnaud's inability to throw out runners is a surprising negative the entire series - compounded by the Royals being (mostly) fast, I feel like half the lineup is freely taking 2nd on any walk / single / error
I don't know who the Mets backup catcher is. Is he any good?