I didn't think it was the greatest lager I've had. And most people in the Turf were drinking Madri. But that is really cool they continue to invest in that community.
Wrexham? I hardly know him.
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Figured that Wrexham lager would end up stateside at some point but didn't have R&R doing it. Looking forward to trying it
Rob and Ryan have brought on new partners for the club. A few family members who sold the Welch-Allyn medical device company several years ago.
Not sure how much these particular partners are worth, but this will help to afford better players in the run to reach the Championship and hopefully Premier League.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/soccer-football-news-hailing-wrexhams-new-investors-phil-parkinson-highlights-their-ryan-reynolds-like-trait-to-elevate-the-club/
Not sure how much these particular partners are worth, but this will help to afford better players in the run to reach the Championship and hopefully Premier League.
https://www.essentiallysports.com/soccer-football-news-hailing-wrexhams-new-investors-phil-parkinson-highlights-their-ryan-reynolds-like-trait-to-elevate-the-club/
Wrexham won, Wycombe lost so they have a 6 point cushion in 2nd with 5 games left. They also have an easier schedule than Wycombe going forward.
They also cut the goal differential to 1 from 5, which is pretty big. It was a good day for Wrexham. Wycombe still has a game in hand, but a tougher schedule, so it looks like they have a pretty good shot at a guaranteed promotion spot.
Wrexham are -700 to earn promotion at most sportsbooks after today’s favorable results. Obviously they’ve done a phenomenal job across all facets of running that team, but part of the secret sauce has been relying on veteran players that may have limited tread left on the tire.
Will be fascinating to see how they retool for a season in the championship.
Will be fascinating to see how they retool for a season in the championship.
I am genuinely surprised they've gotten to this point this year. I figured after the back-to-back promotions they'd have 2-3 seasons in League One, but here we are. Will be a tremendous achievement if they can pull it off.
The Championship is a brutal league, htey won't have the revenue advantages over most other clubs they've had, and they're going to need a lot of squad uupgrades. Where are they at with their stadium updates?
The Championship is a brutal league, htey won't have the revenue advantages over most other clubs they've had, and they're going to need a lot of squad uupgrades. Where are they at with their stadium updates?
Yeah, have to think that Ryan & Rob are going to have to bring in some investor partners with deeper pockets or a stint in the Championship could be a short one.
Construction on their new Kop stand which should hold 5500 people if I’m remembering correctly, is due to start at the end of this season and be ready in time for u19 Euros in 2026.
New season of the show premiers May 15:
https://deadline.com/2025/04/welcome-to-wrexham-season-4-premiere-fx-1236365180/
https://deadline.com/2025/04/welcome-to-wrexham-season-4-premiere-fx-1236365180/
Wrexham drew and Wycombe got a stoppage time winner, so the gap is down to 1 point with 4 to play.
Birmingham City officially clinched the title.
Birmingham City officially clinched the title.
The league one writers are really going all out on the drama this season. Up one point, with a negative 3 goal differential for automatic promotion.
Not even a chance of that happening.
There is no way owners would ever expose themselves to the financial risk of demotion. Hell, the only reason it still exists in football is history. (The fan backlash when owners of big clubs tried to eliminate the concept with the Super League shows how owners feel about it.)
Regardless, no major US sports league owners will ever adopt relegation.
No need to re-litigate this age old chestnut, but I’ll leave my thoughts here for the record.
This sentiment is expressed whenever pro/rel is brought up and I just don’t think it applies to the way it would actually work here. My position is that MLS is not a major league on the American landscape, so the stakes are not anywhere near as high as is commonly said. Closed pro rel (the J-League model) further mitigates investment risk. There would be no falling out of the league structure, just creating a second division that MLS teams can shuttle between. The Columbus Crew could play in MLS2 or MLS1 for any particular season and it would not affect the value of the club or its ability to do what it does in the local market and for MLS, today. It would create interest in casual fans to see the Crew in a relegation battle or a promotion playoff, though. It’s basically a way for the league to introduce drama, individuality and a bit of authenticity for very little actual cost. I think we’re getting close to an inflection point, where owners will see the opportunity as greater than any perceived risk.
My apologies - I read this as a broad statement about pro sports in general and not specific to MLS.
I will absolutely defer to you about what is probable/possible for the MLS going forward.
Ah, I’m no expert, just a long-time observer and a bit of a Eurosnob / wishful thinker. The news that MLS is considering a calendar switch (another long-time possibility that was always met with “it can’t work that way in America!”), plus stuff like the USL working on a closed, tiered league system, the NBA playing around with an in-season cup, NIL professionalizing younger American athletes, and yes, even casual fans getting caught up with the Wrexham story, all make me think that some of the resistance to heretofore different ideas is falling away.
I appreciate your kindness, but I was an idiot to forgot that I was in the Breakfast with Gazza forum. (Though I did layer on the bullcrap quite nicely.) Carry on.
Interestingly, the guys at Scuffed, Vince specifically, talked about this towards the end of today’s podcast and made the same connection you did regarding MLS being open to the calendar change (which was pushed back one season) signaling that they might be open to other changes down the road.
I do wonder if a scenario like you describe would be workable for the owners (I’m pretty much just adding franchises to get to larger leagues and give the owners some:
- Add 10 Expansion franchises over X years- MLS has 30 teams now with expansion team fees going upwards of $500 million, so this would get them to 40 teams (or add 6 new franchises for 36 total) that could be broken into two tiers while netting the owners some serious bank
- Split MLS into two leagues as you suggest (probably two absurd sounding names instead of MLS1 and MLS2) of 20/18 clubs with pro/rel
- Television revenue would be divided equally among all clubs regardless of league, again similar to other closed leagues with pro/rel
Bad day for them.
Wrexham now out of auto promotion after drawing 1-1 against a very poor Bristol team, while Wycombe beat a good Bolton team on the road 2-0.
Coupled with that terrible loss last weekend, it looks like they might have to go the tough playoff road for to earn promotion.
Wrexham now out of auto promotion after drawing 1-1 against a very poor Bristol team, while Wycombe beat a good Bolton team on the road 2-0.
Coupled with that terrible loss last weekend, it looks like they might have to go the tough playoff road for to earn promotion.
Wycombe has 2 games left, both against teams currently in playoff positions. Wrexham has one playoff team, and one mid table team. So with a 2 point lead and the goal differential now even, anything can happen but the schedule favors them. This is going to make great TV.
I am optimistic the USL's attempts at a closed pro/rel league will do quite well. Pro/rel is just so exciting from a fan perspective. It needs to catch on with a smaller league - the cash cow leagues will never adopt it. I do wonder if it could mean USL is more popular than MLS in 20-30 years.
Giving back the goal late could matter. Wrexham was a minute away from a one-goal advantage viz. Wycombe.
If Wycome go WW and Wrexham go WD, then that goal could be huge, unless Wrexham were to have a large margin in its win. But all things being equal it's hard to imagine Wycome catching Wrexhham and not going ahead on GD. Wrexham have destiny back in their own hands, but anything less than 6 points is still precarious.
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If Wycome go WW and Wrexham go WD, then that goal could be huge, unless Wrexham were to have a large margin in its win. But all things being equal it's hard to imagine Wycome catching Wrexhham and not going ahead on GD. Wrexham have destiny back in their own hands, but anything less than 6 points is still precarious.
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Just looked it up--Wrexham's next 2 games are on the next 2 Saturdays. I will definitely try to tune in for these. ESPN+?
Wycombe losing makes for a little less drama. Charlton actually now is the biggest threat. They can get to 88 and if they win today will close some of the goal difference.
Draw draw puts Wrexham through now. Loss win does not though. Not automatically at least.
Draw draw puts Wrexham through now. Loss win does not though. Not automatically at least.
On the first I was like, “short corner, why?” Shows what the fuck I know about it.
Most dangerous lead in sports now.
Most dangerous lead in sports now.
So much play in Wrexham’s box. Wouldn’t be surprised to see a ball hit a hand or find the back of the net to make it a game.
As an obvious very casual football fan, how many of these players are top-level Championship League players?
Now the real fun begins. The Championship is a grind. Will be really interesting to see how they will do.
Have to think that just staying up next year will be considered a success.
Have to think that just staying up next year will be considered a success.
The difference between the top and bottom of the Championship can be huge. They will have to triple their spending on salaries to compete at the top, and cost to buy players is much, much higher for top end Championship players than it is for leagues one and two. Wrexham spent around 4 million pounds last year on incoming transfers. The top teams in the championship will spend around 25 Mil Pounds on players. They may have to do that for a few seasons to compete for a promotion spot. It's going to be a big step up in spending, but they seems to be pretty good at finding sponsors, so who knows.