World Cup Day 17 12/6: Iberian Peninsula Represent!
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Spain’s issues creating and finishing followed them into PKs (from my novice view). It’s like no one wants to take the shot.
Spain deserved to lose, after that game they had
And for all that penalty kicks are an unfair way of deciding the game, I think if you can't even take a decent pen you deserve to be out
And for all that penalty kicks are an unfair way of deciding the game, I think if you can't even take a decent pen you deserve to be out
Yes, and like my daughter said, "you don't want to lose on these kicks, take care of your business in the game"
The thing about Spain is that outside of that tremendous run last decade, the history of the Spanish National Team is one of disappointment. They have very little to show at the international level despite:
1. Being one of the largest and wealthiest countries in Europe
2. Consistently producing world class players in a way that every other country is envious of
3. Having a very strong domestic league that both wins at the highest level, but has teams committed to domestic development
4. Consistently stealing good players from other nations.
1. Being one of the largest and wealthiest countries in Europe
2. Consistently producing world class players in a way that every other country is envious of
3. Having a very strong domestic league that both wins at the highest level, but has teams committed to domestic development
4. Consistently stealing good players from other nations.
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For Japan, I can excuse exhaustion and inexperience. For Spain, no such excuses.
Deserved. Morocco had a plan and they executed it. Still haven't been scored on by the opponent, only that OG vs. Canada.
This is going to be the World Cup that shifts penalty taking back to picking a spot and blasting. So many awful penalties.
Cous Cous for everyone,
we’ll always have Barcelona
kickingdown the middle with an overactivegoalie seems like the move
we’ll always have Barcelona
kickingdown the middle with an overactivegoalie seems like the move
Maybe Spain is just so used to gently sidefooting the ball 10 feet to someone that muscle memory takes over
FOX broadcast said 2006 Switzerland is only other time a team failed to make a penalty in shootout
It seems that Morocco had some foresight about the Spanish keeper diving too early because there were two peneka's there if I'm not mistaken. So maybe not only blasting.
Also, why were none of the kicks elevated? Too dangerous to go over the top? But the keepers always dive for the low corners...
Also, why were none of the kicks elevated? Too dangerous to go over the top? But the keepers always dive for the low corners...
From your lips to God's ears please. I absolutely hate the small ball penalties.
I also hope this shifts away from bringing on subs to take penalties, Spain's subs failed there just like England's did at the Euros
The weird thing is, PKs in the current rules are easier than ever for the taker - you can stutter step, the goalie can't step forward, etc. And yet, this is what happened.
If Morocco beats Spain, Portugal, France, Netherlands in order, they should be given an invite into the EU
I'm wondering what the stats are.
I know I'm forgetting some but the ones I can remember that were kicked during the game are: Bale (make), Kane (make), Neymar (make), Messi (miss).
Then in knockout penalties it has been 7 makes 8 misses.
Ziyech hit it down the middle but hard. A Panenka is more like a changeup--what Hakimi did. Still, definitely seems like Morocco had the fact that Simon is overactive scouted.
Lewandowski had a make after a miss that was awful and only given on the retake; he also had a miss in the group stages
You can't go too low, but you can go too high, so it eliminates one possible way to miss. But of course the keepers know that, which is why they dive low.
Pretty good case of using game theory, actually.
Yes, right.
So many week penalties. The best ones were Bale and Kane and a couple of the Croatia taken ones.
It's so weird too because penalties is one thing where the goal is big enough that if you can execute it correctly, it cannot be stopped. These are the best players in the world.
CR7 couldn't have destroyed himself faster if he'd murdered somebody. This has been insane to watch.
If that actually happens, they won't need that. They'll have their own unique SuperChampionsOrg status forever.
I think he gets bumped a half-grade on execution for dropping that penguin dance on him immediately afterward.
Too many people influenced by the Jorginho style. The stutter step comes not just at the cost of power but also having to take your eye off the ball to watch the goalkeeper; it's just too much to process for many
You can still go low and hit the post. (Spain did.)
The bottom line is that there is a place on both sides of several square feet where if you hit it, you cannot miss. There is literally a spot where a keeper cannot get a save. And it's not tiny.
The forwards are generally all so good at striking the ball, I'm just shocked they don't practice the ability to go to both low corners. If Busi flubs his, that's one thing. But Sarabia? Cmon now. Soler is an AMF. Which begs the question--why aren't Morata and/or Ansu in the first 3-4 takers? I also have to imagine Pedri would've done so much more with his.
That Switzerland team were eliminated without ever conceding a goal too. Think that was a first.
The upper nineties are nearly impossible to cover, but so are the areas to either side of the keeper's head. It's not an area he's going to anticipate and there's a lot of room for error.
As a keeper, my "favorite" penalty locations were about 3 yards off center and low. If you're purely guessing you'll have a 50/50 shot at that placement.
In my opinion, kickers should have less than 5 seconds from the whistle (I'd need to see how much time is needed to kill off the slow runups), no pauses/stutter steps allowed, and the ball is centered on the spot (or there's a line it can't touch/cross). They've done everything possible to neuter what keepers can do and haven't touched the shenanigans on the other side.
As a keeper, my "favorite" penalty locations were about 3 yards off center and low. If you're purely guessing you'll have a 50/50 shot at that placement.
In my opinion, kickers should have less than 5 seconds from the whistle (I'd need to see how much time is needed to kill off the slow runups), no pauses/stutter steps allowed, and the ball is centered on the spot (or there's a line it can't touch/cross). They've done everything possible to neuter what keepers can do and haven't touched the shenanigans on the other side.
And middle is the easiest for the GK. So the margin for error isn't that great.