Women's World Cup 2019

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Anyone watching England Cameroon? Cameroon got like 60% fucked by a "intentional backpass handled by the keeper" call. The ball was crossed by England, blocked by a defenders foot and scooped right up, it was played back by her foot but it really wasn't close to a textbook example of an "intentional backpass". Indirect free kick from the 6-yard line, and after some chaos around the restart and defenders getting faked out and starting early, England puts it in the back of the net.

Cameroon looks very good out there, confidently winning the ball in defense and in midfield. They may even have close to even possession - they just don't look like they have much coherence in attack.
 

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It wasn't a Wrong Call, by the book. It was just harsh, in an area where refs often take intent and context into account and wave off anything short of pre-2006 Italy type conduct.
 

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This is an example of why using VAR for the first time in the women's game in the pinnacle tournament of the sport is a bad idea.

MLS adopted VAR in 2017 and it was wonky for a while before it settled down a bit. These refs don't have enough reps and that's all on planning/organization from FIFA.
 

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What in the world is going on with Cameroon here? They're absolutely melting down over the VAR calls on the goals, which were 100% correct, and not even particularly close calls.

Edit- if anything the officiating has helped them, missed what should have been a clear red early.
Edit 2- allright, the Cameroon offside was actually close, but anyone with a view of it can see it was called correctly, shitty luck, but not cause for a meltdown.
 

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They should rub some dirt on it!
Meh, I don't get the argument that it is better to have bad calls stand than make the correct call. Listen is sucks when you think you scored and didn't, but it's far better than actually having a goal allowed against you or disallowed by you when it's an incorrect call. And the idea that you would pout and refuse to play because a correct call was made is insane.
 

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Maybe their coach will take to a pizzeria and let them vent some steam off over some slices and pop. I mean, it’s just the most important match they’ll ever play in their lives. Clearly they should have the same clarity of some internet rando.
 

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Maybe their coach will take to a pizzeria and let them vent some steam off over some slices and pop. I mean, it’s just the most important match they’ll ever play in their lives. Clearly they should have the same clarity of some internet rando.
Sure....
I mean, it's something that's happened once at this level ever, but sure, it definitely isn't something that should be criticized because hey it's a big game, so it's totally acceptable to refuse to kick off because you're disappointed that a decision went against you.
 

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It appears Cameroon felt aggrieved that the VAR offside calls that went against them were not reviewed by the on field ref .. not that they had to be .. but it certainly would have looked better .. the old “it’s not enough to be fair .. it has to appear to be fair” thing. Not that that excuses their behaviour which was pretty bad.. wouldn’t be surprised if there are repercussions for the Cameroonian federation.
 

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It appears Cameroon felt aggrieved that the VAR offside calls that went against them were not reviewed by the on field ref .. not that they had to be .. but it certainly would have looked better .. the old “it’s not enough to be fair .. it has to appear to be fair” thing. Not that that excuses their behaviour which was pretty bad.. wouldn’t be surprised if there are repercussions for the Cameroonian federation.
It’s been a hard year for the Cameroon federation. In November they lost the right to host this current Cup of Nations tournament because they weren’t going to be ready to host & an armed rebel group was plaguing a section of the country not far from some tournament sites. Then this week the men’s team staged a sit in over unpaid bonuses for playing in the Cup of Nations. And now an embarrassing performance from the women.

This is one of the most proud & successful footballing nations in Africa. Hope they can get past all this.
 

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France-Brazil in the early going, seems pretty even, Brazil conserving their strength frankly and haven't been going 100% on most plays.

I think the French FA gave their women nightgowns and told them it was their world cup uniforms. I'm not really a uniform guy, but those are just weird. Basically white with polkadots. Allez les blahs.
 

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France bags the first, after collision in box and ball bounces in.

VAR review on if keeper had possession but doesn’t look like it.
 

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Well damn, waved off. No goal.

I guess it may have deflected off the arm. But I didn’t see it.

EDIT: Rules analyst keeps talking about keeper possession and not potentially going off arm.
 

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Well damn, waved off. No goal.

I guess it may have deflected off the arm. But I didn’t see it.

EDIT: Rules analyst keeps talking about keeper possession and not potentially going off arm.
Fox's rules analyst has been terrible all world cup.
 

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i saw the goal, had to go get a kid up from nap, and came back to find it waved off. what happened, what was the ruling? looked like it deflected initially off the keeper, just doinked off her hands - then off the french player's shoulder, sending it on a trajectory in (however unintentional it might've been). Dangerous play?
 

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I hate that the QFs for the US will be like the Finals. Not sure who to root for today.
 

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Looked like the keeper touched that before it went out of play, and it didn't look particularly close. Yet...goal kick.
 

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I hate that the QFs for the US will be like the Finals. Not sure who to root for today.
Assuming the US get by Spain (despite Spain having 3 extra days of rest), the #1 ranked Americans will likely have to beat #4 France, #3 England, and #2 Germany in consecutive games to win the title. It's a brutal run unless there are some big upsets.
 

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Assuming the US get by Spain (despite Spain having 3 extra days of rest), the #1 ranked Americans will likely have to beat #4 France, #3 England, and #2 Germany in consecutive games to win the title. It's a brutal run unless there are some big upsets.
Oh yeah, forgot how bulls**t that is. Especially since they have the geographical home field, although it's almost as far away from Spain as a match in France can be.
 

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Just like the men’s tournament, the later parts of the women’s World Cup is going to look an awful lot like a copy of the Euros this cycle. The women’s bracket has a good chance to be 7 European sides plus the U.S. or even 8 if the U.S. are upset.

Probably 6 at least I think.
 

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Just like the men’s tournament, the later parts of the women’s World Cup is going to look an awful lot like a copy of the Euros this cycle. The women’s bracket has a good chance to be 7 European sides plus the U.S. or even 8 if the U.S. are upset.

Probably 6 at least I think.
All "Western" Europe too.

I'm surprised how much Russia, Ukraine, Serbia, Croatia etc. lack talent in the women's game. Alll the best athletes must be playing tennis or something.



Edit: FING BS
 

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The thing is .. would the linesperson have flagged for offside in the absence of VAR ? They can be much more aggressive with offside calls knowing they have backup?

Question - can they have a VAR review on a non offside call? I suppose so ?
 

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This is what I've wanted to see in this tournament. France are incredibly talented, but they have a history of folding in big moments, and the pressure in a home World Cup is huge. Let's see how they react.
 

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The thing is .. would the linesperson have flagged for offside in the absence of VAR ? They can be much more aggressive with offside calls knowing they have backup?
I would think they would still go with their initial reaction, as it will get reviewed anyways. It's no different if she didn't flag it and it turned out she was off, they'd still have the chance to review it.

The biggest problem with replay in the NFL is the tendency to let the play continue because it can't be reviewed if you blow the whistle, but then a call that was likely wrong stands because there's no indisputable replay. That's not the case in this situation.
 

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I was reading up on the French keeper--she has a goal for her club team, not sure of the circumstances AND she took a PK in the Champions League Final to win it for her team. Pretty cool.