Will GM dan jennings be the next MIA manager?

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@IanHest: #Marlins have fired manager Mike Redmond and bench coach Rob Leary
 
 
Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago
marlins said outside-box hire, & there's industry speculation loria has been considering gm dan jennings to become manager
 

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soxhop411 said:
 
keithlaw ‏@keithlaw  6m6 minutes ago
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Zero games of managing experience at any level.
 
keithlaw ‏@keithlaw  3m3 minutes ago
I don't know if Conine will be a good manager. The point is that there is absolutely no way the Marlins know that either.
 
keithlaw ‏@keithlaw  2m2 minutes ago
Also, 11 of the last 13 managerial hires have been white/non-Latino, and the one Latino hire, Rick Renteria, has since been let go.
 
 
So Conine has been doing pre and post game TV for the Marlins the past few years.  Zero coaching experience, not even Little League?  Maybe he has a Fantasy league team.
 

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mauidano said:
 
So Conine has been doing pre and post game TV for the Marlins the past few years.  Zero coaching experience, not even Little League?  Maybe he has a Fantasy league team.
definitely trying to get Stanton to opt out
 

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Jerry Crasnick ‏@jcrasnick 14m14 minutes ago Pennsylvania, USA
This is apropos of nothing, but one person who knows Loria well says he's always been "enamored with" Bobby Valentine.

Bob Nightengale ‏@BNightengale 16m16 minutes ago
Correction: Jeff Conine will NOT be the next #Marlins manager, a front official insists.
 

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keithlaw ‏@keithlaw  3m3 minutes ago
I don't know if Conine will be a good manager. The point is that there is absolutely no way the Marlins know that either.
 
Doesn't matter if they're not hiring Conine, but didn't Larry Dierker have zero managing experience, but was a player and announcer, and ended up being a decent manager? Mike Matheny, too? Why do you need managing experience if you've been around the game for 20+ years?
 

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Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 2m2 minutes ago
marlins said outside-box hire, & there's industry speculation loria has been considering gm dan jennings to become manager
 

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has a GM ever become manager?
 
Bobby Cox became Braves manager while GM. Jim Fanning had been a GM but was director of scouting when the Expos fired Dick Williams, and he supposedly needed to be reminded how to put a baseball uniform on correctly. 
 
I think the big difference between those two and Jennings was they both played in the majors, and Cox had already managed the Blue Jays to the playoffs when he took over. 
 
Having played in the majors is a dumb requirement for a field manager (Maddon, Leyland, Showalter all never made the bigs, to name but three) but there's something to be said for the fact this guy's gonna look like an idiot in a uniform:
 
 

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@JonHeymanCBS: dan jennings is indeed the next marlins manager, according to sources.
 

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@JonHeymanCBS: dan jennings is indeed the next marlins manager, according to sources.
This is correct.

What a joke. Loria has an issue of hiring managers and firing them kind of like Steinbrenner back in the day. Only difference is winning. But then again this is the same guy who played a huge role in killing the Expos. But the one good thing is that Jennings will be the GM and Interim Manager for minimal cost which is the way Loria has always liked it.
 

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I love how the baseball establishment, mainly its writers, are already judging this as a failure. Of course, it could fall apart, but how is it any less likely to succeed than hiring a grizzled former catcher to run the team? It might work, it might not -- just like hiring Don Wakamatsu. Might work, might not. 
 
 
Alan Mullaly (CEO of Ford) was in talks to become CEO of Microsoft last year before they promoted an internal executive. A few people thought, "hmm -- cars to computers, that's an interesting transition" but most people thought, "ok, from one business to a different one. Just have to go figure it out."
 

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soxhop411 said:
has a GM ever become manager?
 
Dallas Green went from the front office of the Cubs to manager of the Yankees.
 
Pinky Higgins went from manager to the front office of the Red Sox in the late 50s, although he never had the title of GM, he was in charge of all player personnel.  Then, in 1960, he went back to being manager, without forfeiting his front office duties.
 
This sounds a lot like when McHale went from being GM to Coach of the Timberwolves.  I wouldn't be signing any long-term leases if I were Jennings.
 

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Paradigm said:
I love how the baseball establishment, mainly its writers, are already judging this as a failure. Of course, it could fall apart, but how is it any less likely to succeed than hiring a grizzled former catcher to run the team? It might work, it might not -- just like hiring Don Wakamatsu. Might work, might not. 
 
 
Alan Mullaly (CEO of Ford) was in talks to become CEO of Microsoft last year before they promoted an internal executive. A few people thought, "hmm -- cars to computers, that's an interesting transition" but most people thought, "ok, from one business to a different one. Just have to go figure it out."
Mullaly also went from Boeing to Ford (airplanes to cars), but difference from CEOs is that they have a huge staffs running day to day ops
 
more comparable would be going from baseball GM to NFL GM
 

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soxhop411 said:
has a GM ever become manager?
 
Paul Owens, nicknamed "The Pope" did this twice with the Phillies.  Once in 1972 when they were one of the worst teams in baseball, and again in 1983, the Phillies went to the World Series that year and lost.  He returned to manage the team in 1984 and didn't do so well.
 
There are some GMs that know enough to be able to manage a baseball team (Billy Beane might be able to do it) but there is a reason he's not a Coach (Tito hated being called coach according to his book). 
 

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This seems to be going well.
 
But some players and agents, who would only speak off the record, said there’s more to it than that. Not only were they caught by surprise when manager Mike Redmond was fired only 38 games into the season, but they were taken aback by the decision to replace him with a front-office executive — Dan Jennings — with no managing or coaching experience.
 
Jennings had not spent any time in a major-league dugout in any capacity — not even as a batboy — and it has rankled players.
 
How many?
 
“All 25 of them,” said the agent of one player.
 
No player would go on record expressing dissatisfaction, or frustration, with any of the recent run of events.
 
Giancarlo Stanton wouldn’t touch the question.
 
“Doesn’t matter,” Stanton responded when asked if he was frustrated. “You’re not going to get no controversial stuff from me, so don’t try it. Any type of question like that, the answer is going to be everywhere. I’ve already been through that before.”
 
Privately, though, players aren’t pleased.
 
“C’mon, show us some stability you preach,” one said in reference to an oft-repeated pledge before the season that the team was entering a new era of stability after years of erratic performance, both on and off the field.
 
 

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Am I the only one who thinks this was Loria telling Jennings, "If you think the players you got are so good, why don't you go and manage them yourself?"