Yeah, that's not going to happen. But he's got a lot of growing up to do and a lot to learn about being a pro.If I'm the Giants I think about the possibility of trading Beckham this off season.
Yeah, that's not going to happen. But he's got a lot of growing up to do and a lot to learn about being a pro.If I'm the Giants I think about the possibility of trading Beckham this off season.
We disagree with the above and that is ok.
Presume this was in the wrong forum. But who knows what Odell Beckham will do?They are going to bill him so they can fix the wall.
Also he has anger issues
It will be hard to for me to be convinced that there is a safe, text book, way to deliver a blindside hit with minimal possibility of injury.Disagree with what?
No... Im talking about Odell Beckham... GB will send the bill to Odell Beckham so they can fix the wallPresume this was in the wrong forum. But who knows what Odell Beckham will do?
Wouldn't be surprised to see a holdout by him for a new contract. I'd totally explore the possibility of putting his name out there to see what kind of interest it would drum up. He is a diva and is going to look to break the bank for.someone that is a me first guy.Yeah, that's not going to happen. But he's got a lot of growing up to do and a lot to learn about being a pro.
It's too bad the video live feed is gone. Francesa is going to guzzle Diet Coke tomorrow.Then come the calls to WFAN.
Mexico will pay for it.No... Im talking about Odell Beckham... GB will send the bill to Odell Beckham so they can fix the wall
hopefully the Patriots will be there to take advantage of this future situationWouldn't be surprised to see a holdout by him for a new contract. I'd totally explore the possibility of putting his name out there to see what kind of interest it would drum up. He is a diva and is going to look to break the bank for.someone that is a me first guy.
I recognize you've already been through an extended conversation about this, and clearly don't relish another, so I'll just leave it at this:It will be hard to for me to be convinced that there is a safe, text book, way to deliver a blindside hit with minimal possibility of injury.
I don't, but I understand that SoxFan121 is going to SoxFan121.I recognize you've already been through an extended conversation about this, and clearly don't relish another
Bud Grant did it better, in colder weather, and kept his shirt on.I don't care at all about the stupid boat photos, but that shirtless pregame stuff was lame.
OBJ actually enjoys the Daily News back page, the self centered brat that he is. Horrid: I wonder how long they pondered over using that word.
The back page of the daily news, multiple boat references and also the wall.
Assaulted a doorman, apparently.Chris Mueller – @ByChrisMueller
#Steelers assistant coach Joey Porter has been put in the back of a cop car in the south side for an altercation with a police officer
I was hoping they'd go for GIANTS LOSE BY A YACHT, myself.The back page of the daily news, multiple boat references and also the wall.
No surprise he was arrested for terroristic threats considering the Steelers and their fans are ISIS. Is Roger there yet to post his bail?Assaulted a doorman, apparently.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000771895/article/steelers-coach-joey-porter-arrested-on-multiple-charges
This argument always bugs me.- Where I suspect we agree is the need to encourage rugby-style "wrapping-up" tackles, which are more about controlling the opponent's body than trying to truck on through somebody. So many of the "big hits" in the NFL are actually sub-optimal for the purpose of, you know, getting the ball-carrier to the ground, and that kinda drives me nuts.
Yep, he and drama appear to be a lifetime marriage. Nothing will top getting a gunshot wound to the butt while in Denver for the annual Colorado - Colorado State game.This argument always bugs me.
Oh, and yes, Joey Porter is a terrible human being, so I'm not surprised that he's in legal trouble yet again.
Don't want to google that, so link pretty please?Yep, he and drama appear to be a lifetime marriage. Nothing will top getting a gunshot wound to the butt while in Denver for the annual Colorado - Colorado State game.
You think Googling that story will give your computer butt cancer?Don't want to google that, so link pretty please?
Porter, butt, annual (my computer is Colombian-made, so it'll come out as anal), shot - who knows what I'd get.You think Googling that story will give your computer butt cancer?
Utter nonsense.This argument always bugs me.
NFL tackles are different than Rugby tackles because keeping a player from moving forward is almost (if not as) important as getting him to the ground. A guy dragging you 4 yards in rugby before going down isn't a big deal, in football it gives the other team another 4 downs. NFL players tackle the way they do because it's the optimal balance between stopping a player from gaining more yardage, and ending the play by downing him. Forcing rugby style tackling would fundamentally alter the way the game is played, and probably require increasing the yardage requirement from 10 to 15-20 yards.
If that's the only way to make the sport safer, that's fine, but the argument that they should just "tackle better" is ridiculous. Wrap-up style tackling is only the optimal strategy when the player has already past the first down marker.
Oh, and yes, Joey Porter is a terrible human being, so I'm not surprised that he's in legal trouble yet again.
Could you please point out where I said anything about leading with your helmet?Utter nonsense.
Leading with your helmet has nothing to do with an "optimal balance between stopping a player from gaining more yardage and ending the play by downing him." Honestly, that's an embarrassingly stupid statement on the face of it.
A lot of NFL players use bad tackling technique. They do this because instead of focusing on making a tackle, they are attempting to deliver a punishing hit. And in the perverse world of NFL football, the ability to deliver punishing hits on a consistent basis will result in that player being rewarded. (See Burfict, Vontaze.) The league is making half-hearted attempts to dial these hits back, but they also understand that violent hitting is a key part of the overall appeal of the NFL, which is why the rules (and the enforcement of those rules) seems so arbitrary.
That may have been what you were talking about, but it's not the context of the discussion that you responded to.Could you please point out where I said anything about leading with your helmet?
I was talking about "truck[ing] through guys" - which is why I quoted that section. The NFL as a sport values stopping an opponent's forward progress as much as getting him to the ground. That alone eliminates the possibility of dragging players to the ground being an optimal tackling strategy. As long as short amounts of field position are important, knocking people over is going to be an important strategy.
No surprise he was arrested for terroristic threats considering the Steelers and their fans are ISIS. Is Roger there yet to post his bail?
Former NFL punter Chris Kluwe shares a lovely Joey Porter anecdote in the comments section of the Deadspin story.Yep, he and drama appear to be a lifetime marriage. Nothing will top getting a gunshot wound to the butt while in Denver for the annual Colorado - Colorado State game.
Link to article.Fuck Joey Porter. He’s an asshole and I hope he gets his balls gnawed off by weasels.
My rookie year, we were playing the Steelers week 15 or 16, and I’m trying to warm up for the game (context: I have a torn ACL in my kicking leg, so it was kind of a shitty time), when this fuckwit comes up, an hour and a half before the game, and tries to tell me that I can’t use the Steelers’ half of the field to warm up (meanwhile, their punter is on our side of the field, warming up with no problems, because we weren’t dickheads). I told him to fuck off, and then he starts acting like he’s stretching and tries to bump into me while I’m going through my motion. Darren Bennett comes tearing in off the bench (we had him on the roster in case I couldn’t punt), and almost throws down on Porter right there (my money would’ve been on Bennett). The refs come over, tell me I have to go back over to my side, and after some arguing where I tell them I’m well within my rights to be on the Steelers’ 40 yard line (since the rules dictate a 10 yard buffer zone at midfield that the kickers/punters can use), I tell them fine, I’ll go over to my side and just kick balls at the Steelers linebackers until I’m warm, which I proceeded to do.
Sadly, Porter did not trip over one of the balls raining down on his warmup spot and tear his own ACL, but it wasn’t for lack of trying on my part.
Yes, I am mad your team has carte blanche to helmet spear/commit unsportsmanlike conduct with playoff games on the line/stomp on opposing players/blindside block punters, etc. with no repercussions but that's just those tough, blue collar Pittsburgh Steelers. I guess that just makes me a jealous hater.height of yinzer creativity
(Belichik on ferry) Not sure much of a backstory, this is my typical pose on a ferry. (though in the day, I had four kids milling around)I would be very interested to know the backstory here.
They are tied for third of all time in Super Bowl wins, tied with the Pats and Packers. Their SB win in 2008 was flukey but they won it. And I know, my argument is "count the rings". But they have been better than a faux good organization. They have been a great organization. Their 1986 team was a pretty incredible one. I don't think anyone thinks of Trey Junkin or that Minnesota game when the Giants are thought about. They think about Lawrence Taylor, beating the Pats, or Norwood's miss.This just re-establishes the fact that the Giants have been a faux good organization since the 1980's. Their fans like to pound their chests over two fluke Super Bowl victories, but when I think of the Giants since 1986, I think of Trey Junkin...blowing that playoff lead in SF...the Minn game in '97...the Ravens embarrassing them in the Super Bowl...and now this...not to mention Scott Norwood should have made that kick.
The Yankees are a great organization that deserves our respect. The Giants? No. They're a regional team that has been mediocre for most of the last 20 years. They've been under .500 three times out of the last four seasons. Before that, they went 9-7 twice, which is our worst record since 2001. Meanwhile we're going 12-4 or better.
Sorry. Sore spot. But I don't think the Giants are a top-tier org at all. They got lucky twice, otherwise they'd not be talked about.