Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?
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Phil Plantier said:
I don't care either way about PK other than the fact that he might be the most famous guy from the town I spent my preschool years in. But I loved Dr Z and his thinking man's guides. I know way more about the NFL and AFL of the late 70s than I probably should from reading his book.
If I ever see Peter King in a Starbucks, I'm handing him the depleted Starbucks card I for some strange reason still carry around in my wallet.
“Th-th-thanks!’’?? How about "Wow, I truly appreciate the gesture, but I'm sure there are plenty of other people who need a few free coffees a lot more than me."
Christ, give it to the panhandler sitting outside the entrance.
I don't know who I'm more pissed at -- the numbskull who bought Millionaire Peter King free coffees or Millionaire Peter King for accepting.
Christ, give it to the panhandler sitting outside the entrance.
I don't know who I'm more pissed at -- the numbskull who bought Millionaire Peter King free coffees or Millionaire Peter King for accepting.
I'll just point it out, although anyone reading this thread is already aware:
There is no reason for Peter King to post that story, except to point out to all of us how loved and respected he is.
If he wanted to give the guy a tip-o-the-hat or whatever, he could have done it in numerous ways that don't involve the high level of self-aggrandizement ("Says he enjoys my work...Pounding away at my column [in a Starbucks. Wow, what a tough gig you have, King]...thanks me again..."). He could have simply said, in any one of the dozens of place in his column that don't involve football (the haiku, 10 Thinks I think I think with my things, in a less annoying travel blurb), "And to the nice man that I met in Starbucks in Philly: thanks a lot.". That's ALL HE HAD TO SAY.
But no, the point of King's anecdote is not to thank the man, or (god help me) make a comment about what its like to be a traveler in these United States, circa 2013; no, it is to point out that some asshole loves Peter King so much he bought him a Starbucks card.
There is no reason for Peter King to post that story, except to point out to all of us how loved and respected he is.
If he wanted to give the guy a tip-o-the-hat or whatever, he could have done it in numerous ways that don't involve the high level of self-aggrandizement ("Says he enjoys my work...Pounding away at my column [in a Starbucks. Wow, what a tough gig you have, King]...thanks me again..."). He could have simply said, in any one of the dozens of place in his column that don't involve football (the haiku, 10 Thinks I think I think with my things, in a less annoying travel blurb), "And to the nice man that I met in Starbucks in Philly: thanks a lot.". That's ALL HE HAD TO SAY.
But no, the point of King's anecdote is not to thank the man, or (god help me) make a comment about what its like to be a traveler in these United States, circa 2013; no, it is to point out that some asshole loves Peter King so much he bought him a Starbucks card.
The other thing posting the story does is it gets the idea out there that if you see him writing in a Starbucks it's an awesome idea to buy him a gift card to thank him for his tremendous insight and the pleasure his words have given you over the years.drleather2001 said:
And the next time someone bothers him to say hi and thank him he can go all, "it's always nice to talk to my fans, even ones who don't drop off a gift card" or something along those lines.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
The best line today is how he wishes that he'll be safe driving around to NFL camps, if al-Qaeda strikes.
Or, it how he lists his own writing in the best from the site roundup
Other than that, I am having a difficult time maneuvering around the site. Very clumsy
Or, it how he lists his own writing in the best from the site roundup
Other than that, I am having a difficult time maneuvering around the site. Very clumsy
Yea. I mean, I consider myself fairly liberal, and people like King drive me fucking nuts. He's the type of hypocritical lefty that people on the right point to and laugh.
"Oh, we really need to do something to HELP homeless people/other countries/fund education/etc...!!!"
But then when it comes to the rubber meeting the road, he not only doesn't make a modicum of effort to use his position to do anything to help (unless it's a self-serving vanity project like running in a race to raise money for a source's, erm, NFL player's cause du jour), he actively mocks people for suggesting that he should live up to his lofty bullshit, and makes it clear that the idea of him having to sacrifice, even a fucking $10 gift card, is anathema to him. Because, he earned it.
What a fucking gimpy turd jockey.
"Oh, we really need to do something to HELP homeless people/other countries/fund education/etc...!!!"
But then when it comes to the rubber meeting the road, he not only doesn't make a modicum of effort to use his position to do anything to help (unless it's a self-serving vanity project like running in a race to raise money for a source's, erm, NFL player's cause du jour), he actively mocks people for suggesting that he should live up to his lofty bullshit, and makes it clear that the idea of him having to sacrifice, even a fucking $10 gift card, is anathema to him. Because, he earned it.
What a fucking gimpy turd jockey.
http://mmqb.si.com/2013/08/06/riley-cooper-percy-harvin-mailbag/
"Listen, Susan. Why should we make the actual site more streamlined for our users? If you're only going to spend ten minutes on my site, there's not much I can do to help you out. Go to the Archive and stop your bitching."
Can this turdnugget be any more condescending? "SUSAN IS OVERWHELMED," "Why not, if you only have ten minutes...," "Just a thought," etc.
Hey asshole, if you want me to come to your stupid site five times a day, make it easier to navigate. When 200+ people come at you with the same suggestion, it's high time for you to swallow your pride and listen to them.
Then someone else chimes in with the same issue...
Yep, he's a condescending fuck again. People don't want to go to the stupid archive page which is just one big scrolling page of text and devoid of any and all of the multimedia that is supposed to be the bread and butter of your now MMQB venture.
Fix the fucking site. If Deadspin can figure it out, you can too.
The real kicker is he probably made the whole story up. I mean, how can anyone call him on it if he did?drleather2001 said:
It seems more likely to me that he made the story up than it is that someone would buy him a gift card as a token of their appreciation for his column. He probably needed a coffee story and didn't have one, so he made up a self-serving one.
Thing is, the site's navigation really is terrible. The same stories/headlines repeat in several different places on the front page for no reason, there are headlines underneath each writer's name on the right side but clicking on the headline takes you to the author's main page rather than that story, the links obnoxiously change color when you hover over them in a way that hurts the eyes.
It's also weird that the headline on the front page is "Playing with Brady's Favorite Teammate", which is superimposed over a photo of Peyton Manning, who is obviously not Brady's favorite teammate. I get that it's an interview with Manning about Welker, but you would never know that from looking at just the headline and the photo.
It's also weird that the headline on the front page is "Playing with Brady's Favorite Teammate", which is superimposed over a photo of Peyton Manning, who is obviously not Brady's favorite teammate. I get that it's an interview with Manning about Welker, but you would never know that from looking at just the headline and the photo.
Ferm Sheller said:
This would only apply if we thought he was beneath posting whatever coffee story he had available no matter how lame simply under the assumption that it would be interesting because it's him having coffee.
CoffeeNerdness: "Got a coffee. It was nice and hot. I like it when the coffee is nice and hot. I once had a barista give me coffee that was warm at best. Seemed totally unprofessional to me; I mean, how hard is it to make coffee hot? I make millions of dollars and basically just write stream of consciousness crap about my day, shouldn't I be able to get a hot coffee? Unless I ask for iced coffee, which should not be hot."
Well, I mean, you know what he could do, right?
He could get off his fucking ass and use his status as a high-profile writer to, I dunno, contact some people who make/grow/package/sell/roast coffee for a living and actually drop some knowledge on his readers. What are the different kind of beans? What is the roasting process like? Could you roast your own beans? Do pros recommend keeping coffee in the freezer? Ground or unground? What are some high-profile coffee experts' views on Starbucks, DD's, or iced coffee in general? What's the most expensive coffee out there? Is it any good?
I mean, there are literally hundreds of things about coffee he could tell us about, if he only took 45 minutes to be a "nerd" about it. I'm sure it would be pretty easy to have one of his gophers dig out 3-4 coffee contacts and just pop them a basic question once a week, and then print the response. I mean, our local weather guy has a blog and does that sort of thing every day, in regards to climate change, emergency procedures, extreme weather events, etc...
He could get off his fucking ass and use his status as a high-profile writer to, I dunno, contact some people who make/grow/package/sell/roast coffee for a living and actually drop some knowledge on his readers. What are the different kind of beans? What is the roasting process like? Could you roast your own beans? Do pros recommend keeping coffee in the freezer? Ground or unground? What are some high-profile coffee experts' views on Starbucks, DD's, or iced coffee in general? What's the most expensive coffee out there? Is it any good?
I mean, there are literally hundreds of things about coffee he could tell us about, if he only took 45 minutes to be a "nerd" about it. I'm sure it would be pretty easy to have one of his gophers dig out 3-4 coffee contacts and just pop them a basic question once a week, and then print the response. I mean, our local weather guy has a blog and does that sort of thing every day, in regards to climate change, emergency procedures, extreme weather events, etc...
Corsi said:
I think he's just offering a simple workaround while the people that actually know what they're doing fix the site. For all intents and purposes MMQB is in a public beta now.
I'm no expert in journalism ethics but isn't there something slightly off-putting about the free publicity that Porter Hardy IV and Smartmouth Brewing Company get by giving Peter King a free growler of beer?
Ralphwiggum said:
You forgot GoRVing.com™!
And oh how quickly we've forgotten EvoShield™. Dude shilled for them worse than Billy Mays.
I've been a fan of Richard Deitsch, but this is vomit-inducing.
At 10:24 he tweets:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/366928215714971650
Then, less than an hour later:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/366942763473829891
Deitsch has a good enough reputation that I assume that when he promotes something from SI, he independently thinks it's good, but when he praises a column of the specific guy who sent him off on a training camp boondoggle, I think that's asking a bit much.
At 10:24 he tweets:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/366928215714971650
Then, less than an hour later:
https://twitter.com/richarddeitsch/status/366942763473829891
Deitsch has a good enough reputation that I assume that when he promotes something from SI, he independently thinks it's good, but when he praises a column of the specific guy who sent him off on a training camp boondoggle, I think that's asking a bit much.
I'm not too into the always-there-but-picking-up-steam-lately trend of assigning universal characteristics to generations of Americans (e.g., "Millennials have large groups of friends and expect all of their efforts to be met with approval, regardless of whether the efforts are successful or not.").
However, Peter King really embodies every negative stereotype/profile of the Baby Boomer generation. He's superficially interested in creating a "greater good", and makes overtures of being driven by a sense of social justice (but only when it allows him to condescend), and is really driven by the ethos of "I got mine" and has an inflated sense of accomplishment that was/is based more on good fortune than on his own merit.
However, Peter King really embodies every negative stereotype/profile of the Baby Boomer generation. He's superficially interested in creating a "greater good", and makes overtures of being driven by a sense of social justice (but only when it allows him to condescend), and is really driven by the ethos of "I got mine" and has an inflated sense of accomplishment that was/is based more on good fortune than on his own merit.
drleather2001 said:
This reminds me of what some critic once said about Kenny G.: "Its music for people who like the idea of jazz, but not jazz itself."
Peter King likes the idea of being a coffee nerd, a beer nerd and a do-gooder, but instead he simply drinks large amounts of coffee and beer and likes free stuff.
King is getting a lot of flack for insinuating that Kosar had been drinking after Kosar made some less than flattering comments about the Rams during a preseason game.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/08/sports_illustrateds_peter_king.html
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/08/sports_illustrateds_peter_king.html
DrewDawg said:
So King tweets:
But then in MMQB, he writes:
So, you were out of line, but not over the top? What's the difference? Of course, King teases with the tweet that he's going to apologize, and then instead he DEFENDS his comments in MMQB! Unreal.
You know what happened? He apologized off-the-cuff, and then got angry with himself for being bullied into an apology, so he recanted.
Regardless: if King had problems with Kosar's comments, he should address their substance, not call the guy drunk on the air. It's unfair, cheap, and unprofessional to call someone out as "drunk" unless you, you know, actually know they had been drinking. If someone of note (let's say, I dunno, Bill Belichick) called Peter King "drunk" on the basis of some of the stupid shit that he's written, Peter King would absolutely lose his mind.
It's "over the top" to call someone appearing publicly/professionally "drunk." You're basically calling them a loser and completely un-credible. Period.
However, to say that Kosar, who has a history of problems related to multiple concussions sustained during his career, sounded "drunk" isn't just over the top, it's fucking insensitive and completely hypocritical given King's pooh-poohing about player safety.
Applied to a random person, it's a churlish, unprofessional, bullying thing for King to say. Applied to a guy like Kosar, King's just being a flat-out asshole. That he is incapable of admitting that to himself is no surprise.
Regardless: if King had problems with Kosar's comments, he should address their substance, not call the guy drunk on the air. It's unfair, cheap, and unprofessional to call someone out as "drunk" unless you, you know, actually know they had been drinking. If someone of note (let's say, I dunno, Bill Belichick) called Peter King "drunk" on the basis of some of the stupid shit that he's written, Peter King would absolutely lose his mind.
It's "over the top" to call someone appearing publicly/professionally "drunk." You're basically calling them a loser and completely un-credible. Period.
However, to say that Kosar, who has a history of problems related to multiple concussions sustained during his career, sounded "drunk" isn't just over the top, it's fucking insensitive and completely hypocritical given King's pooh-poohing about player safety.
Applied to a random person, it's a churlish, unprofessional, bullying thing for King to say. Applied to a guy like Kosar, King's just being a flat-out asshole. That he is incapable of admitting that to himself is no surprise.
Corsi said:
It's pretty simple. Peter King was out of line with what he tweeted, but everyone else's reaction to what Peter King tweeted was over the top, because calling a professional writer unprofessional is much worse than calling a former football player/tv analyst a drunk.
Also, Kosar's comments were funny as hell, and it's a local broadcast of a preseason game. King just hates people with strong opinions.
King was further called out because of his seeming defense of the Rams/Jeff Fisher, when he and Fisher share an agent. When asked why he didn't mention that, he said that he's written about it before.
Because, you know, everyone has obviously read everything he's ever written.
Anyway, I hope King applies this standard fairly. If some QB he likes, that has suffered a concussion, tosses an INT or two, let's hope MMQB wonders if that QB was drunk.
King was further called out because of his seeming defense of the Rams/Jeff Fisher, when he and Fisher share an agent. When asked why he didn't mention that, he said that he's written about it before.
Because, you know, everyone has obviously read everything he's ever written.
Anyway, I hope King applies this standard fairly. If some QB he likes, that has suffered a concussion, tosses an INT or two, let's hope MMQB wonders if that QB was drunk.
If nothing else, Peter King needs an editor. Have you tried to wade through his columns or musings or whatever he calls them? And now that he has -- I would assume -- complete editorial control over his content with MMQB (replete with logo), it will just get worse. He's impossible to read. I tried the other day. I found myself scrolling through text (endless text) scanning for anything interesting and could find nothing other than his narcissism on full display. His writing sucks. He should farm out everything to the talented people he's attracted to his endeavor and let it go at that.
I am completely unaware of any "issues" regarding Williams when he was in college. I think the worst thing said about him was that he was shy. Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole pot smoking stuff didn't surface until he was already in the NFL, and he wasn't regarded as a head case until his early retirement from the Dolphins.
PETER KING LIVES IN MANHATTAN!
"I have completely ignored this sad piece of history, but now that I have gone I'm going to be sanctimonious about how important it is that YOU go see it."
"...and then I'll tell you about a tree."
"I know this is a stupid and misleading thing to say...but fuck it I'm going to say it anyway!"
None that I play with, unless they are thinking "I have Gronk, so I'll draft Sudfeld as a backup until Gronk is healthy".
How many games could a non-coach coach, if a non-coach could coach games?
But will he ask Aaron Rogers about it? Hell no!
The one thing I have to defend him on is the Sudfield thing. He's been getting a lot of fantasy hype lately.
Matthew Berry @MatthewBerryTMR17 Aug
Zach Sudfeld is legit. Wrote @ him in Love Hate & yesterday afternoon's 10 of 10. Going in drafted, should be taken top 12 among TE.
Matthew Berry @MatthewBerryTMR17 Aug
Serious. Even when Gronk comes back. NE runs tons of two TE sets #Sudfeld RT @MikeVereker: Serious?? Top 12? Ehh...
Matthew Berry @MatthewBerryTMR17 AugZach Sudfeld is legit. Wrote @ him in Love Hate & yesterday afternoon's 10 of 10. Going in drafted, should be taken top 12 among TE.
Matthew Berry @MatthewBerryTMR17 AugSerious. Even when Gronk comes back. NE runs tons of two TE sets #Sudfeld RT @MikeVereker: Serious?? Top 12? Ehh...
to be fair Matthew Berry is an idiotPBDWake said:The one thing I have to defend him on is the Sudfield thing. He's been getting a lot of fantasy hype lately.
Zach Sudfeld is legit. Wrote @ him in Love Hate & yesterday afternoon's 10 of 10. Going in drafted, should be taken top 12 among TE.
Serious. Even when Gronk comes back. NE runs tons of two TE sets #Sudfeld RT @MikeVereker: Serious?? Top 12? Ehh...
He is, but he's an idiot with a platform a lot of people listen to. Kind of like a fantasy PK.
drleather2001 said:
I think even more importantly, "character issues" is a euphemism for a person being a bad guy. I mean, didn't Ricky Williams go vegetarian and meditate in a tent in Australia for like a year or something? If anything, dude has too much character to play in the NFL.
Just because Snoop smokes weed doesn't make all sweet leaf issues the same.