Doesn't he also have a deal with a mattress company? I'm drawing a blank on which one.He also has an endorsement deal with Aston Martin.
Doesn't he also have a deal with a mattress company? I'm drawing a blank on which one.He also has an endorsement deal with Aston Martin.
Ironically, though, sometimes "staying one step ahead" means turning back the clock, as with going heavy against teams with lighter faster defenses built to combat the proliferating spread and RPO offenses.My pet opinion is that the Patriots are the true example of "Moneyball theory" being put into practice. People talk about the As, of course, and the Red Sox, but without a salary cap and huge discrepancies in markets, baseball is an uncontrolled environment. The Patriots are the best team in football (in sports) at recognizing market inefficiencies and capitalizing on them. They do this by looking at league-wide strategy trends and finding economical ways to exploit them. By staying one step ahead on the field, they are also one step ahead in terms of paying players.
Molecule, which he took an ownership stake in to switch from Simmons/Beautyrest last year.Doesn't he also have a deal with a mattress company? I'm drawing a blank on which one.
As dumb as it sounds this is a microcosm of what makes BB and thus the Pats great. How often do we see him jotting a note with the Pencil behind his ear on a pad?You can't do anything about it, other than teach later. In the moment, the only thing you can do is accept and move forward based on whatever the new situation is.
"Fuck Roger Goodell"I coach Middle School. So Same thing as BB.
As dumb as it sounds this is a microcosm of what makes BB and thus the Pats great. How often do we see him jotting a note with the Pencil behind his ear on a pad?
What do YOU think he is jotting? Me, I think its shit that went wrong that needs to be coached up.
Thanks for linking. I remember watching that nearly two years ago, but it was great to watch again.This thread reminded me of the interview referenced earlier (It's really good if you haven't already seen it, also worth a re-watch if you have).
From that:
Belichick's coaching tenets
Do your job
Be attentive
Pay attention to details
Put the team first
Full interview - https://www.cnbc.com/video/2017/04/13/exclusive-bill-belichick-on-leadership-winning-and-tom-brady-not-being-a-great-natural-athlete.html
This is one reason why I think it's the perfect storm of historically great ownership, historically great management/coaching, and historically great play at the most important position in all of sports (NFL QB). BB wouldn't do as well with meddling or crappy ownership, or with a crummy QB (or even with a fairly good QB like Bledsoe). Brady wouldn't do nearly as well with an average coach or ownership not committed to him. And Kraft wouldn't be so likely to not meddle if he didn't have the GOAT coach and QB. They all work together - not without occasional friction I'm sure - to create the greatest franchise the league has ever seen.I'd like to echo the sentiments of some others above. This is a great thread.
There are lots of reasons why the Patriots are so good. Go figure.
While we're talking about BFB's job security, we should note that part of the reason for that is that the owner stays the fuck out of his business generally. So points to the ownership as well.
I agree completely. The combination makes it fantastic. But from what I can see, the particular focus on a) the next play, and b) absurd preparation comes from Bill. It's probably hard at this point to unpack the source of everything though. Everyone deserves a bunch of credit.This is one reason why I think it's the perfect storm of historically great ownership, historically great management/coaching, and historically great play at the most important position in all of sports (NFL QB). BB wouldn't do as well with meddling or crappy ownership, or with a crummy QB (or even with a fairly good QB like Bledsoe). Brady wouldn't do nearly as well with an average coach or ownership not committed to him. And Kraft wouldn't be so likely to not meddle if he didn't have the GOAT coach and QB. They all work together - not without occasional friction I'm sure - to create the greatest franchise the league has ever seen.
Bill's job security is critically important, I agree.This isn't to detract from all the other points, especially BB's amazing qualities. But I think, ceteris paribus, its a lot easier to run an NFL team if you're widely considered a football genius than if your job performance is constantly being put under a microscope by the media, your players, and your boss.
I wonder if Easterby played a role in previous combines, helping with those character interviews, etc. I can't find info if they've replaced him yet.Buried in this excellent ESPN piece about the Combine (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26136412/steak-booze-sense-dull-dread-here-really-happens-nfl-combine) and all of it's inefficient silliness is an extremely telling nugget about the way the Patriots evaluate players and why other teams don't do it the same way:
The teams correctly assume that the answers they seek lie hidden inside the players, and yet the combine gives them all just 15-minute interviews amid the circus of other activity. Some teams would rather the entire week be devoted to interviews, along with the invaluable medicals exams. Franchises are forever fumbling in the dark for clues. They all try a forever-changing system of interrogations, mock-therapy sessions and psych evals. A few, like the Colts and the Patriots, have utilized non-football leadership and character experts who are fully integrated into their facility and staff. Most, however, have not.
When I asked around in Indy, I was told the reason is shockingly simple: many coaches believe their own myth about being leaders of men and experts in the realms of character and motivation. They cannot admit in public that they really don't know much about any of those things. Maybe in every NFL facility there is a person or a group of people who could win games, maybe even The Game, if the people above them could stop preening long enough to listen.
For all of BB's success and ego, he has always operated in a relatively egoless way in terms of getting input from all sides in terms of game plan, in-game tactics, etc... Belichick understands this stuff more than anyone.
We probably wouldn’t know if they did. How many of us had even heard of Easterby and his role until he actually left the Pats?I wonder if Easterby played a role in previous combines, helping with those character interviews, etc. I can't find info if they've replaced him yet.
This article indicates that he did: "Three years ago, they hired Easterby to interview prospects and implement his own version of character assessment." It's not clear to me that Easterby's replacement would also fill this role; he sounds like he had a unique skill set.I wonder if Easterby played a role in previous combines, helping with those character interviews, etc. I can't find info if they've replaced him yet.
In googling around before asking the combine question (thanks, Mario!) I learned that Easterby's position was unique in the NFL. Most if not all teams have team chaplains that work part-time alongside their full-time religious jobs. But Easterby was the only one employed full-time by the team.We probably wouldn’t know if they did. How many of us had even heard of Easterby and his role until he actually left the Pats?
Every team uses sports science in some way, shape, or form. Many college teams do as well.Do we have people who do this the way the Eagles do this?
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/07/eagles-increasingly-using-sports-science-to-evaluate-players/
Edit. Or some other way, whether you call it sports science or something else?
My problem with the piece is that it provides no detail on “sports science” apart from a reference to “gait”.Every team uses sports science in some way, shape, or form. Many college teams do as well.
Strength coaches use a ton of technology to evaluate their athletes now. Some get a baseline test of how much energy each athlete exerts in a typical practice or workout through heart monitors and they can track their energy rate through a practice. They can track data throughout the season to see if an athlete is apt to get hurt. I know a lot of coaches who use sports science and it's found that injury rates go down. This is just one of many examples.My problem with the piece is that it provides no detail on “sports science” apart from a reference to “gait”.
Kinesiology? What else?
Thank you!Strength coaches use a ton of technology to evaluate their athletes now. Some get a baseline test of how much energy each athlete exerts in a typical practice or workout through heart monitors and they can track their energy rate through a practice. They can track data throughout the season to see if an athlete is apt to get hurt. I know a lot of coaches who use sports science and it's found that injury rates go down. This is just one of many examples.
Damn, you were ahead of the curve here!Take a bow, Bob Kraft, for recognizing greatness and not blowing with the wind.
This reads like Patriot Hater erotica.1 timeing
2 picking brady and putting in the pefect system while on 30 other teams brady might been out of the nfl by 2005 without the offence C Weis had for him at the start of his career
let say brady goes to SF in 2000 they had a not so good o-line no def and mooch
lets say brady bets out garica in camp brady plob has a up/down year 1 only threw 3 passes in 2000 i will say 21 td's 18 ints 8-8 ne 5-11
01 27 td 10 int loses to philly in div round ne 6-10 huard starts after week 6
02 29 td 15 int loses to tb in div round mooch is fired dennin e comes in ne 8-8
03 20 td 8 int finesh 9-7 ne start 0-2 in 2003 prompt tom jackson to say bill b has lost the team this time he is right as ne goes 5-11 bill b gone goes to dallas as DC
04 sf trades brady to balt for 2 1st and and 2004 2nd ne hires gary kubiak from denver as OC matt sauhcb is your new qb he is up/down ne goes 7-9
04 23 td 12 int loses to pitt in afc tittie game
05 brady gets hurt balt goes 6-10 without him ne loses to den in mile high 10-6
06 brady beats p manning but loses to sd in afc tittie game 30 td 9 int ne goes 8-8 dallas wins 06 super bowl bill p retires bill b takes over
07 mr kraft tells gary k win a playoff game or u are out he has his eyes on jon gruden or john harbaugh
kubeiak goes 9-7 gets fired and u hire john harbaugh
brady throw for 26 td in 2007 but a older ravens ouits on billick they go 8-8 kubiak goes to balt
long story short without bill brady wins 2 sb max without brady bill b wins 1-2 super bowls max
and due to the extra hits brady takes in SF and balt he goes out with ray lewis after 2012 winning only 1 super bowl
bill leaves dallas after 2008 when jones wants jason garrett to stick around when bill wants to fire him
then he works for parcells down in miami siting up a bach and forth between NE Harbarugh/flacco and mia bill b chad p then tebow then jimmy g bill is still going he is DC now for NO
Gronk = philly aaron h went to oakland juiles went to dal then mia now no
I’m glad they got lucky cuz this would have sucked.1 timeing
2 picking brady and putting in the pefect system while on 30 other teams brady might been out of the nfl by 2005 without the offence C Weis had for him at the start of his career
let say brady goes to SF in 2000 they had a not so good o-line no def and mooch
lets say brady bets out garica in camp brady plob has a up/down year 1 only threw 3 passes in 2000 i will say 21 td's 18 ints 8-8 ne 5-11
01 27 td 10 int loses to philly in div round ne 6-10 huard starts after week 6
02 29 td 15 int loses to tb in div round mooch is fired dennin e comes in ne 8-8
03 20 td 8 int finesh 9-7 ne start 0-2 in 2003 prompt tom jackson to say bill b has lost the team this time he is right as ne goes 5-11 bill b gone goes to dallas as DC
04 sf trades brady to balt for 2 1st and and 2004 2nd ne hires gary kubiak from denver as OC matt sauhcb is your new qb he is up/down ne goes 7-9
04 23 td 12 int loses to pitt in afc tittie game
05 brady gets hurt balt goes 6-10 without him ne loses to den in mile high 10-6
06 brady beats p manning but loses to sd in afc tittie game 30 td 9 int ne goes 8-8 dallas wins 06 super bowl bill p retires bill b takes over
07 mr kraft tells gary k win a playoff game or u are out he has his eyes on jon gruden or john harbaugh
kubeiak goes 9-7 gets fired and u hire john harbaugh
brady throw for 26 td in 2007 but a older ravens ouits on billick they go 8-8 kubiak goes to balt
long story short without bill brady wins 2 sb max without brady bill b wins 1-2 super bowls max
and due to the extra hits brady takes in SF and balt he goes out with ray lewis after 2012 winning only 1 super bowl
bill leaves dallas after 2008 when jones wants jason garrett to stick around when bill wants to fire him
then he works for parcells down in miami siting up a bach and forth between NE Harbarugh/flacco and mia bill b chad p then tebow then jimmy g bill is still going he is DC now for NO
Gronk = philly aaron h went to oakland juiles went to dal then mia now no
I think @j-man was just trying to point out that luck was a part of it. I don’t think he has any ill-will towards the Pats. And hey, I have no problem admitting that some moves worked out much better than anyone could have imagined including BB. I’ll take a ton of hard work and an excellent system top to bottom in all facets combined with luck.This reads like Patriot Hater erotica.
yes SMU luck played a part mr kraft even said in 2000 he was a few days from hireing dom capers as coach in 2000 but due to a snowstorm and mr kraft and bill p getting over their diffI think @j-man was just trying to point out that luck was a part of it. I don’t think he has any ill-will towards the Pats. And hey, I have no problem admitting that some moves worked out much better than anyone could have imagined including BB. I’ll take a ton of hard work and an excellent system top to bottom in all facets combined with luck.
You miss the Super Bowl?I was actually just thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about Saban and Belichick and how Saban essentially changed the course of maybe NFL and college football history by picking Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees. The answer is Tom Brady.
Belichick is a great coach, maybe the greatest of all time, but look at his approach to roster building. His approach is no one player is above the team and everyone is replaceable. He hit the Powerball by drafting Brady, something that likely no coach will ever replicate again.
Tom Brady has saved Bill Belichick from himself. Belichick hasn’t had to worry about the QB for his team for nearly 20 years. That’s absolutely unprecedented. You can mask an insane amount of deficiencies when Tom Brady is your QB. We’ve seen it over and over again. Bad offensive line? Have Brady throw the ball in 1.5 seconds. Bad receiver? Have Brady throw them open. Bad defense? Have Brady outscore the other team.
Belichick’s track record as a GM and the runner of the draft isn’t amazing either. The one thing that keeps the whole thing glued together is 12.
If you’re going to post the above you need to be able to work through a few things...I was actually just thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about Saban and Belichick and how Saban essentially changed the course of maybe NFL and college football history by picking Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees. The answer is Tom Brady.
Belichick is a great coach, maybe the greatest of all time, but look at his approach to roster building. His approach is no one player is above the team and everyone is replaceable. He hit the Powerball by drafting Brady, something that likely no coach will ever replicate again.
Tom Brady has saved Bill Belichick from himself. Belichick hasn’t had to worry about the QB for his team for nearly 20 years. That’s absolutely unprecedented. You can mask an insane amount of deficiencies when Tom Brady is your QB. We’ve seen it over and over again. Bad offensive line? Have Brady throw the ball in 1.5 seconds. Bad receiver? Have Brady throw them open. Bad defense? Have Brady outscore the other team.
Belichick’s track record as a GM and the runner of the draft isn’t amazing either. The one thing that keeps the whole thing glued together is 12.
Because they don't play in the shitty AFC East. Not saying that's the biggest factor in the Patriots success, but when one win means the difference between the bye and not getting the bye, it's a big benefit.Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are awesome/in Brady’s league production and skill-wise. Why have they been to five combined conference title games and two combined Super Bowls when Brady has been to thirteen title games and nine Super Bowls?
Except, as has been stated numerous times here:Because they don't play in the shitty AFC East. Not saying that's the biggest factor in the Patriots success, but when one win means the difference between the bye and not getting the bye, it's a big benefit.
Later on in this run, esp once Peyton retied, an underrated portion is most of the healthy QB talent in general ended up in the NFC.
Just to drive that point home, here are each team's records since Rodgers took over in 2008 in both divisions:Except, as has been stated numerous times here:
1. The 2-4 slots in the AFC East have the best record against non-division opponents of any division in football since 2001, and...
2. The Patriots have been just as dominant (same winning percentage) playing non-AFC East teams as against AFC East teams.
I mean look at the NFC North since Rodgers started 12 years ago. The only SB appearance in those years for the NFC North was their win in 2010.
You need a new argument, sorry .
Yep. 14-2 if you go back to 2006.You also have to account for the fact the Patriots are better than Green Bay and thus more likely to hurt their division opponents’ records by beating them. This is going off memory, but the Patriots should also be 10-2 against the NFCN since 2008, I believe. Only losses being @GB in 2014 and @Det this year (woof).
Can you specify what year you're talking about? Was it 2007, 2012, 2014, 2015 or 2016? There's a lot of losing season to choose from, not including the 8-8 2008 season.Yeah, Brees not playing in the AFC East doesn’t explain 7-9.
Lots of garbage time in those 7-9 seasons to rack up stats when you're playing from behind constantly and not running the ball. Brees has only 3 more TD's than Brady and 62 more INT's.Brees is not Brady's peer.
I can't wait til this narrative dies.
There's a number of things wrong about this post, in particular the bolded.I was actually just thinking about this this morning. I was thinking about Saban and Belichick and how Saban essentially changed the course of maybe NFL and college football history by picking Daunte Culpepper over Drew Brees. The answer is Tom Brady.
Belichick is a great coach, maybe the greatest of all time, but look at his approach to roster building. His approach is no one player is above the team and everyone is replaceable. He hit the Powerball by drafting Brady, something that likely no coach will ever replicate again.
Tom Brady has saved Bill Belichick from himself. Belichick hasn’t had to worry about the QB for his team for nearly 20 years. That’s absolutely unprecedented. You can mask an insane amount of deficiencies when Tom Brady is your QB. We’ve seen it over and over again. Bad offensive line? Have Brady throw the ball in 1.5 seconds. Bad receiver? Have Brady throw them open. Bad defense? Have Brady outscore the other team.
Belichick’s track record as a GM and the runner of the draft isn’t amazing either. The one thing that keeps the whole thing glued together is 12.