How does Ball have only 4 votes? Are people assuming he is the second pick? Does anyone here have ball as lower than the 2nd best player in the draft?
Yes--most people think he's going to LA, not to mention that he doesn't seem like a fit here.How does Ball have only 4 votes? Are people assuming he is the second pick? Does anyone here have ball as lower than the 2nd best player in the draft?
Those two factors plus more than a few people aren't convinced he's going to excel at the NBA level.Yes--most people think he's going to LA, not to mention that he doesn't seem like a fit here.
I don't believe in Ball at all. I would not draft him over Jackson, Tatum, Isaac for sure, I'd consider Smith, Fox too. Of course if he falls to 3 I think you can trade that pick because someone would.How does Ball have only 4 votes? Are people assuming he is the second pick? Does anyone here have ball as lower than the 2nd best player in the draft?
Maybe this is one way of thinking about this. With Fultz, you know what you're going to get. He's got no apparent weaknesses but then again, how much room is there to grow? With Jackson, if he develops a jump shot, he's going to be special. And if Tatum turns out to be more athletic than people think, he's going to be special as well.DA's comments have been about Fultz being a good player but not a 'great' or 'generational' type to justify the first overall pick right? (plus they didn't like his workout).
So drafting an equal or lesser player at 3 (Jackson or Tatum) still appears to leave the Celtics short. If the window is 2020/21 let's say, why not go with a little more of a reach but guy with higher potential ceiling? My understanding is that player is Isaac. Why he got my vote.
Is that close to what it would take to get Davis? Or is that still way short?
How does Ball have only 4 votes? Are people assuming he is the second pick? Does anyone here have ball as lower than the 2nd best player in the draft?
For what it's worth, this is unquestionably true. But what it actually means is that they're trying to collect the sorts of assets that they'll need to get Davis if -- and it' a huge if -- he becomes available in a couple of years.SiriusXM NBA Radio host this morning "The Celtics are trying to get Davis."
Now, whoever it was was on with Scal, and to be honest, he sounded more like some former player that has a morning show not anyone that knows anything, but whatever.
I voted Tatum, with Fox or Isaac as fallback.How does Ball have only 4 votes? Are people assuming he is the second pick? Does anyone here have ball as lower than the 2nd best player in the draft?
I'm sure they are trying to get him now---and, I agree with your implicit comment that they will not succeed in that effort this year absent some really surprising unknown fact (Brow has told them he wants out now and will go public post-draft is only one I can imagine).For what it's worth, this is unquestionably true. But what it actually means is that they're trying to collect the sorts of assets that they'll need to get Davis if -- and it' a huge if -- he becomes available in a couple of years.
I see your five and raise you two more: Tatum is absolutely the guy. Plus, Chris Mannix said so on T&R this morning so we should go ahead and buy a jersey.I've watched at least 5 minutes of youtube video on Tatum and Jackson.
It's quite clear that Tatum is the guy we should take.
This might be your impression, but unless you view him strictly as a 5 (which you shouldn't), it's not really backed up by stats or scouting reports. He has a good rebounding rate, with numbers similar to what KAT and Noel did as freshman, and a decent block rate for a guy who defended the perimeter as often as he did in college.I'm not really sold on Issac. His length/shooting makes him an attractive prospect in today's game, but he plays smaller than his measurables and when you are avoiding contact in college it isn't like he is suddenly going to become more of an aggressor when he plays against NBA talent. .
I don't think DA's comments have been that direct. He talked about Fultz fitting what Philly is trying to do while the Celtics would have gone a different direction at #1, which they expect to still be available to them at #3 with an additional asset. The rest has been inference.DA's comments have been about Fultz being a good player but not a 'great' or 'generational' type to justify the first overall pick right? (plus they didn't like his workout).
Thank you. I've been doing the same and agree - more like 10 minutes thoughI've watched at least 5 minutes of youtube video on Tatum and Jackson.
It's quite clear that Tatum is the guy we should take.
Scalabrine thinks they want Jackson--he said this morning, his biggest fear now is that LAL take him at #2.Thank you. I've been doing the same and agree - more like 10 minutes thoughJackson has some more powerful dunks in his highlight reel, but that's about it. Tatum is clearly the better pick IMO.
This game is silly. In fact there are seemingly equal numbers of counterexamples to examples. Furthermore we really don't know whether he thinks in terms of 'types' or whether he just goes for the best player.Now there's a danger in discussing Drafter Danny as he has a big enough body of work that there is seemingly an exception to every rule, but generally DA seems to fall for:
I have a feeling Smith could be that guy too, if not for the depth of guards on the roster and the need for wings and, potential, a big. Tatum, Issac, Smith is what I guess.If it's a "surprise" pick it might be Smith l wouldn't be surprised if he goes top 5, just an elite freakish athlete who was held back by bad teammates and coaching. Defense including effort is a concern but some GM probably sees Westbrook when he looks at Smith
They are drafting a point guard.But maybe #3 and Rozier would. The Kings need a point guard.
If Suns are taking Fox like some suggest, that would leave the Kings with Dennis Smith or Nitilikina. That would also mean one of Tatum or Jackson is sliding to 6. I doubt that is the case, but if Orlando did end up with Jackson... every one of their games would seem like a Shawn Marion shooting fundamentals video.They are drafting a point guard.
The Suns are taking Jackson or Tatum, maybe Ball if he inexplicably falls there. Sacramento is zeroed in on Fox and he'll be there at #5.If Suns are taking Fox like some suggest, that would leave the Kings with Dennis Smith or Nitilikina. That would also mean one of Tatum or Jackson is sliding to 6. I doubt that is the case, but if Orlando did end up with Jackson... every one of their games would seem like a Shawn Marion shooting fundamentals video.
Agreed.Tatum all the way
I agree but I've seen more than one national publication project Fox at 4. One has since moved him back to 5. I don't know if Chad Ford has done a mock sense. I think a lot of the movement in mock drafts is for click bait anyway but I can't see the Suns passing on Jackson if he's there. I honestly wonder if the Celtics will pass on Lonzo Ball if he is there.The Suns are taking Jackson or Tatum, maybe Ball if he inexplicably falls there. Sacramento is zeroed in on Fox and he'll be there at #5.
These publications throw shit together for clicks....they know nothing more than many on this board. Unless something really weird happens I'd imagine Fox is pretty much locked in at 5 going to the Kings. I also feel there is zero chance of Ainge drafting Ball. He's such an awful fit in Boston in a number of ways. For starters he's your 5th guard next year. More importantly is that he isn't a combo guard which Ainge covets but a pure 1 who has the ball in his hands so he affects our versatility moving forward.I agree but I've seen more than one national publication project Fox at 4. One has since moved him back to 5. I don't know if Chad Ford has done a mock sense. I think a lot of the movement in mock drafts is for click bait anyway but I can't see the Suns passing on Jackson if he's there. I honestly wonder if the Celtics will pass on Lonzo Ball if he is there.