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Good lord, they aren't going to trade David Price.
And Rodriguez is still relatively cheap, Barnes is very cheap. They need cheap talent.
But they're a game behind the Rangers for a playoff spot, and start a series with the Rangers tomorrow. Clearly, the season is a lost cause.
 

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I don't expect nor want the Red Sox to be sellers. However, DD doing his job would require him to at least consider it, even if that consideration would take a nano -second to reject.

Price and JDM would basically be the 2 guys that would bring the most in return in terms of players and tax relief for this year. JDM could even be resigned after the season. Might need to kick in a few dollars for Price to get a better return (such as a top pitching prospect)

About the only thing that makes this even remotely possible is a rash of serious injuries to other key players (eg any 2 of Betts, Boegarts, Sale). Short of that I hope they go the other route and become buyers (2B and elite RPer)
 

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I still have a lot of faith in this team. It is basically the exact same team that won last year... and if you isolate a lot of the players (not starting pitching), it's a great lineup. We've got two great starters (Price has been a true ace, and you know Sale is also despite his struggles) and 3 very good bullpen arms. From what I've seen over 40 years of watching the playoffs is that THAT IS ALL THAT YOU NEED TO WIN THE WORLD SERIES. Some luck and some unexpected performances from your role players (ahem... JBJ.... Pearce.....) and you're a sudden WS winner. Porcello and EdRod could unexpectedly turn into... (ahem.... Eovaldis).
Our team as it is is good enough to get in.... it's actually better than that and that's the frustration right now. The players feel it and it's radiating to us, clearly. I think DD knows this and will not sell, and should not sell. Please do not sell!!!!! This team is too good to sell and at some point they're going to be put together a 10 game winning streak and the MFY's and the Rays will go 4-6 and suddenly they'll be 1.5 games back and wallah...... buck up jerks!

EDIT- yes... a season ending injury to Xander, Devers, JDM, Beni or Mookie would change all this. The nagging injuries are the ones that drive me crazy... should JDM decide to just shut it down... it would change completely my feelings on buy/sell/go for it.
 

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Much of the same personnel remains, but this is a very different team from last season. It seems the approach that was taken regarding the starting pitching during spring training might have put them in an early hole, but how do you know for sure? Sale seems to have turned things around and Price has been very good in big spots recently, but Porcello and Rodriquez have been a crap shoot and the fifth starter is a toss up due to injuries. Were expectations for the same offensive output too high? Hard to say. You can look at guy's like Mookie, Benintendi and perhaps even J.D. and say they are not yet where they were a year ago. Then again Moreland has picked up some of that slack, Devers looks like he has found a path toward being a more consistent hitter, Vazquez is producing more than we ever hoped for and Chavis has provided in a big way by filling a void that had huge uncertainty attached to it. Offensively JBJ is what he is, but overall the lineup looks to me to have lengthened. That 7-8-9 black hole that we saw for much of the season last year isn't the problem that it once was. The bullpen looks suspect to me and not just because of the lack of a lock down closer. As stated by some up thread that may have only affected a few games, but a few games is a few games and depending on who those games are against it could mean a two a game swing. Overall as far as the pen goes there's just not enough there to sustain them. Coming into the season there was still hope for something out of Thornburg and Smith, but that ship seems to have sailed. Hopefully Braiser can regain his 2018 form and along with Barnes provide provide the mix and match 8-9 combo that Cora is looking to employ. The pen is a real patchwork right now. Every team can't have a pen with four potential closers, but the game is becoming increasingly dependent on it's non starters. The team has had it's share of injuries, but nothing devastating to the point of pinning that on the slow start. If anything I think the expectations placed on the team may have been a bit too high. I think we all expected better than this at this point in the season, but as for where the Sox have gone wrong? Hard to say, it's baseball.
 

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Much of the same personnel remains, but this is a very different team from last season. It seems the approach that was taken regarding the starting pitching during spring training might have put them in an early hole, but how do you know for sure? Sale seems to have turned things around and Price has been very good in big spots recently, but Porcello and Rodriquez have been a crap shoot and the fifth starter is a toss up due to injuries. Were expectations for the same offensive output too high? Hard to say. You can look at guy's like Mookie, Benintendi and perhaps even J.D. and say they are not yet where they were a year ago. Then again Moreland has picked up some of that slack, Devers looks like he has found a path toward being a more consistent hitter, Vazquez is producing more than we ever hoped for and Chavis has provided in a big way by filling a void that had huge uncertainty attached to it. Offensively JBJ is what he is, but overall the lineup looks to me to have lengthened. That 7-8-9 black hole that we saw for much of the season last year isn't the problem that it once was. The bullpen looks suspect to me and not just because of the lack of a lock down closer. As stated by some up thread that may have only affected a few games, but a few games is a few games and depending on who those games are against it could mean a two a game swing. Overall as far as the pen goes there's just not enough there to sustain them. Coming into the season there was still hope for something out of Thornburg and Smith, but that ship seems to have sailed. Hopefully Braiser can regain his 2018 form and along with Barnes provide provide the mix and match 8-9 combo that Cora is looking to employ. The pen is a real patchwork right now. Every team can't have a pen with four potential closers, but the game is becoming increasingly dependent on it's non starters. The team has had it's share of injuries, but nothing devastating to the point of pinning that on the slow start. If anything I think the expectations placed on the team may have been a bit too high. I think we all expected better than this at this point in the season, but as for where the Sox have gone wrong? Hard to say, it's baseball.
How much is DD going to invest in this team when it's already 6 games back and behind 2 teams. Most teams aren't making big investments for the coin flip round.

Now a non-rental would make some sense because they've given out a bunch of extensions to prevent another "bridge year."
 

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It should go without saying that I’d rather be 8 up than 8 down.

Yet, who on this board would have been comfortable with an 8 game lead in the division with NYY in the hunt just a few years ago.

It’s a steep hill to climb, but so was being down in the ALCS in 04 and 07.

Still on the bus...
 

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It should go without saying that I’d rather be 8 up than 8 down.

Yet, who on this board would have been comfortable with an 8 game lead in the division with NYY in the hunt just a few years ago.

It’s a steep hill to climb, but so was being down in the ALCS in 04 and 07.

Still on the bus...
To me, it’s not so much the number of games behind but the way they are playing. Stumble-butt, can’t get out of their own way, get 3-4 games over .500 and then fall back, multiple times. I guess you could say 2004 was similar but I don’t see a Papi, Manny or Pedro on this team. I’ll be glad to be shown wrong however.
 

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I look at the lost column. the Sox are 9 games out of first. I'm a glass half full and I believe that its doable to win at the least a wild card. Will they win the division? Hard to say with Yanks power and the Rays pitching but I believe in this team. I've been a fan since 1975 and I've seen much worse. The season is a marathon at least twice over and they can come back.
 

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To me, it’s not so much the number of games behind but the way they are playing. Stumble-butt, can’t get out of their own way, get 3-4 games over .500 and then fall back, multiple times. I guess you could say 2004 was similar but I don’t see a Papi, Manny or Pedro on this team. I’ll be glad to be shown wrong however.
Same here. It’s not the record that worries me, it’s the sloppy play. And something intangible: spirit? Last year if the Sox were behind by 2-3 runs in the seventh, I’d think “No problem. They got this.” More often as not, they’d win. More impirtantly, the players seemed to think so too. This year, if they’re ahead in late innings, I’m waiting for the inevitable lead-off walk and two-run HR.
 

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To me, it’s not so much the number of games behind but the way they are playing. Stumble-butt, can’t get out of their own way, get 3-4 games over .500 and then fall back, multiple times. I guess you could say 2004 was similar but I don’t see a Papi, Manny or Pedro on this team. I’ll be glad to be shown wrong however.
That '04 team was hungry coming off the '03 ALCS debacle. This team is coming off a championship, so it's likely really difficult for them to muster up the same drive the 2004 team did or even last year's team did. It's a hangover season, whether they want to admit it or not. They're mathematically still in it but I don't see this team, as assembled, being a threat to anyone in a best-of-5 series, never mind a best-of-7. They might win the play-in game, but since it'll likely be against a team as good or better I wouldn't put their chances as any better than a coin flip, possibly worse depends on who starts. And they won't be able to skip a Sale start in the last week if they need every W possible, so he's not a lock to start the WC game and may be on short rest if he does. Given how their seasons have gone, Price might be the better bet in that game anyway and you save Sale for Game 1 of the ALDS with fingers crossed that the offense shows up or the bullpen doesn't blow any lead its handed.
 

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That '04 team was hungry coming off the '03 ALCS debacle. This team is coming off a championship, so it's likely really difficult for them to muster up the same drive the 2004 team did or even last year's team did.It's a hangover season, whether they want to admit it or not. They're mathematically still in it but I don't see this team, as assembled, being a threat to anyone in a best-of-5 series, never mind a best-of-7. They might win the play-in game, but since it'll likely be against a team as good or better I wouldn't put their chances as any better than a coin flip, possibly worse depends on who starts. And they won't be able to skip a Sale start in the last week if they need every W possible, so he's not a lock to start the WC game and may be on short rest if he does. Given how their seasons have gone, Price might be the better bet in that game anyway and you save Sale for Game 1 of the ALDS with fingers crossed that the offense shows up or the bullpen doesn't blow any lead its handed.
Well, I could point out some Yankee teams that won up to five straight World Series. ‘49 to ‘53, ancient history I suppose, but the Jeter, etc. teams won 4 out of 5 and they weren’t ancient history at all. Nobody’s won 2 straight since 1999-2000, so maybe it is a “thing”. How about if this year’s team wakes up and plays with a modicum of decency. Like, last year’s defending champion Astros went 103-59.
 

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The Sox are 4th in the AL in runs per game and 3rd in team FIP. Their Pythagorean W/L is 37-30, which would is 3.5 games behind the Yankees Pythag of 39-25. The 2nd and 3rd order win percentages on Baseball Prospectus's adjusted standings both have the Sox ahead of the Yankees (still behind the Rays, though). Only three teams are underperforming their 3rd order win percentage by as much as the Sox (Rays, Royals, and Reds). This doesn't change what their actual record is, and I agree with others who feel that this team lacks some "it" factor, but it does show that they might be due for some positive regression. 8 games out in mid-June obviously isn't great, but it's also not the end of the world, and unless they actually fall out of contention, I don't think they should consider being sellers.

(anyone who wants to look at the adjusted standings or read about how Baseball Prospectus comes up with them, the link is here)
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/standings/
 

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The optimist will point out that the team is still only 1 game out of a playoff spot, and is not really out of the division race. There have been teams that have come back from middling starts before. Last season, the Dodgers were 33-32 at this point in the season before going 59-39 to clinch their division.

However, there are significant hurdles. Of their 95 remaining games, they have 24 against the Yankees and Rays, 13 against current division leaders (Twins, Dodgers, and Phillies), and 11 against teams in similar contention points as the Sox (Indians, Rockies, and Rangers). That leaves 60 games against inferior teams, some of whom will be in tank mode. If we assume they need to win 90 to clinch at least the second wild card, they have to play 0.589 ball the rest of the way. If they can play 0.600 against the lower division teams, that gives them 36 wins. Which means they would need to go 20-15 (0.571) against the upper half. Unfortunately, they are 6-11 against those better teams to date, and that's not counting their 2-4 record against Houston. Eventually, they'll have to beat the good teams.

Personally, I don't put too much credence on arguments that center around the team's "heart" or "spirit". I don't see them going to the plate and thinking "Well, I got a ring last season, so I'll just relax during this at bat, as this game is lost anyway". I don't see them somehow trying less hard or otherwise giving up. I do believe, however, the margin of success in baseball is always small and very difficult to sustain for any extended period. Injuries, regression, BABIP luck, aging, and roster turnover are all part of baseball life and contribute a lot more to a team's success or failure than "desire". It's still a talented roster, but the bullpen has issues that may not be easily fixable this season.
 

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Well, I could point out some Yankee teams that won up to five straight World Series. ‘49 to ‘53, ancient history I suppose, but the Jeter, etc. teams won 4 out of 5 and they weren’t ancient history at all. Nobody’s won 2 straight since 1999-2000, so maybe it is a “thing”. How about if this year’s team wakes up and plays with a modicum of decency. Like, last year’s defending champion Astros went 103-59.
That's a good point BUT also worth pointing out that George was still running the Yankees at that time and accepted nothing less than total victory every season. John Henry and/or Dave Dombrowski don't have that attitude so that spectre isn't hanging over every game. But if we're going to draw that comparison, the 2018 Sox may be akin to the '96 Yankees and maybe this is their '97 (I know NYY made the playoffs that year and this year's Sox team will be very fortunate to get into the tournament the way things are going) with '98, '99, and '00 still to come in '20, '21, and '22. Also worth pointing out that the Yankees dynasty at the turn of the century was nearly 20 years ago (slightly less if you want to include the '01 team that lost to Arizona) which may as well be ancient history with how the game has changed since then.
 

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Same here. It’s not the record that worries me, it’s the sloppy play. And something intangible: spirit? Last year if the Sox were behind by 2-3 runs in the seventh, I’d think “No problem. They got this.” More often as not, they’d win. More impirtantly, the players seemed to think so too. This year, if they’re ahead in late innings, I’m waiting for the inevitable lead-off walk and two-run HR.
It's vaguely Celtic-like, this inability to harness the focus and play at the top of their game for more than brief stretches. I wouldn't want to draw that comparison out much further, but there does seem to be a lack of urgency that looks maddeningly familiar.
 

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There is something about this team I do not like.

They are underperforming expectations by a wide a margin. DD should be open to all offers to improve the team.

In addition to the usual suspects including those we should have sold high on (JBJ) and those I rather be gone (Price), I think even Betts should be on the line.
 

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There is something about this team I do not like.

They are underperforming expectations by a wide a margin. DD should be open to all offers to improve the team.

In addition to the usual suspects including those we should have sold high on (JBJ) and those I rather be gone (Price), I think even Betts should be on the line.
Mookie, too? He's not one of the good ones?
 

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But they're a game behind the Rangers for a playoff spot, and start a series with the Rangers tomorrow. Clearly, the season is a lost cause.
Unfortunately, it is looking like a lost cause right now; but if Sale and Price continue to pitch as in their last outings and 2 or 3 hitters begin to swing as they should, maybe we could read this thread in November and laugh, as we do with the Patriots-Dolphins game thread.
 

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That's a good point BUT also worth pointing out that George was still running the Yankees at that time and accepted nothing less than total victory every season. John Henry and/or Dave Dombrowski don't have that attitude so that spectre isn't hanging over every game. But if we're going to draw that comparison, the 2018 Sox may be akin to the '96 Yankees and maybe this is their '97 (I know NYY made the playoffs that year and this year's Sox team will be very fortunate to get into the tournament the way things are going) with '98, '99, and '00 still to come in '20, '21, and '22. Also worth pointing out that the Yankees dynasty at the turn of the century was nearly 20 years ago (slightly less if you want to include the '01 team that lost to Arizona) which may as well be ancient history with how the game has changed since then.
Also worth mentioning that there was no salary cap then and the Yankees were outspending other teams by a significant amount. The Red Sox didn't really jump in to the higher priced FA act until Manny came around... and even then, they never took the next step to add a good "no. 2" until Schilling (by that time Pedro was more the "no. 2").

Was thinking of posting a thread... but not sure if it's worthy.... and hopefully it won't even be something to seriously consider... but at what point and how many games out will the Sox have to be before they actually do pull the plug on the season and try to restock some talent with some trades (and who would you make available)? I don't think it'll happen but it's been discussed around here..... Just wondering what others think is a sort of "cut-off" in games back and what date?
 

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And no... Price, Sale, Mookie, Xander, Devers, Chavis are all unavailable I'm certain.

Possibles Benintendi, Barnes, JDM, Leon, Vazquez

Definites Porcello, EdRod, JBJ,
 

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And no... Price, Sale, Mookie, Xander, Devers, Chavis are all unavailable I'm certain.

Possibles Benintendi, Barnes, JDM, Leon, Vazquez

Definites Porcello, EdRod, JBJ,
Rodriguez is the only cost controlled starter they have. He's very likely unavailable. Similarly, Benintendi and Barnes are cheap. If the Sox are going to sell--and I highly doubt they will--it won't be the relatively cheap, relatively young guys.
 

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Rodriguez is the only cost controlled starter they have. He's very likely unavailable. Similarly, Benintendi and Barnes are cheap. If the Sox are going to sell--and I highly doubt they will--it won't be the relatively cheap, relatively young guys.

Agree with this. Think the key parts of a tradable list would be Porcello and JDM. Both could be big gets for any contender, and the Sox could ultimately even reacquire JDM.
 

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Rick Porcello at like 8 mil for the rest of the season is not going to be a big get for any contender. The guy with the 4.69 FIP? IDK if JDM will be a big get either considering that the deal he is currently on is probably the best he will get. I doubt he opts out and tries to get a bigger contract, and you can essentially only trade him in the AL. Who is going to trade for a DH with a potential 3 year commitment attached?
 

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Rick Porcello at like 8 mil for the rest of the season is not going to be a big get for any contender. The guy with the 4.69 FIP? IDK if JDM will be a big get either considering that the deal he is currently on is probably the best he will get. I doubt he opts out and tries to get a bigger contract, and you can essentially only trade him in the AL. Who is going to trade for a DH with a potential 3 year commitment attached?
Sox can subsidize that to get a good prospect back, if that is the move to make
 

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That's a good point BUT also worth pointing out that George was still running the Yankees at that time and accepted nothing less than total victory every season. John Henry and/or Dave Dombrowski don't have that attitude so that spectre isn't hanging over every game. But if we're going to draw that comparison, the 2018 Sox may be akin to the '96 Yankees and maybe this is their '97 (I know NYY made the playoffs that year and this year's Sox team will be very fortunate to get into the tournament the way things are going) with '98, '99, and '00 still to come in '20, '21, and '22. Also worth pointing out that the Yankees dynasty at the turn of the century was nearly 20 years ago (slightly less if you want to include the '01 team that lost to Arizona) which may as well be ancient history with how the game has changed since then.
George didn’t have the Yankees in 49 - 53. What those old Yankees did have was kind of a captive major league team that acted like a minor league team to them. The Kansas City A’s made favorable (to the Yankees) deals with the Ys for years starting in 1955. Much different league back then. I guess they also had great scouting though that produced their Micks, Whiteys, Yogis, etc. What ails the Red Sox this year is of course not related to any of the above. What did we blame the malaise on in the first to worst year?
 

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George didn’t have the Yankees in 49 - 53. What those old Yankees did have was kind of a captive major league team that acted like a minor league team to them. The Kansas City A’s made favorable (to the Yankees) deals with the Ys for years starting in 1955. Much different league back then. I guess they also had great scouting though that produced their Micks, Whiteys, Yogis, etc. What ails the Red Sox this year is of course not related to any of the above. What did we blame the malaise on in the first to worst year?
I was talking about the Yankees Dynasty from the '90's/'00s. Anything that long ago is like comparing the ABA to the NBA of today; so much has changed that it's not even comparable.

As for '13 to '14, I think a lot of the success in '13 was rallying around the catastrophe of the bombing and the emotional response from the team. A year later, they didn't have the same fire and I think had some injuries. One would assume the training wheels were off Farrell and he was riding high from the win and thought he could do no wrong.

Maybe this year's team is not so dissimilar. Maybe a first-year manager winning it all is a kiss of death for the following season or two. Here's hoping not. Only Francona's team got back to the playoffs the following season, even if it didn't end well, before an injury-plagued '06 and then a team that steamrolled its way to a title in '07.
 

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Too much money for too little performance.

If a contender would only take him, we would realize addition by subtraction.
Is this a joke? Are you trolling? "Too little performance" is not a very good description of David Price.

3.63 ERA, 3.68 FIP, 1.165 WHIP, 123 ERA+, 9.2 K/9, 3.99 K/BB since they signed him.

2.70 ERA, 3.06 FIP, 1.05 WHIP, 172 ERA+, 10.4 K/9, 4.93 K/BB this year.

The guy is a top 10 pitcher in the league. If that's not good enough, your standards are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too fucking high.
 

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He lost me when he introduced politics into his Boston tenure by skipping the White House invitation.
Seriously?
He said that he closed the book on last season after the awards were handed out and he was 100% focused on 2019.
You have a personal issue because a professional decided to focus on his craft, then I don't know what to tell you

/edit...can't find the source for that, but either way, in January, he said he wouldn't be attending and didn't give a reason as to why. I don't think he owes anyone an explanation
 

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He lost me when he introduced politics into his Boston tenure by skipping the White House invitation.
I'm sorry. My previous posts may have been too coy. Everything you write here is equal parts racist and stupid. The board is diminished with your contributions.
 

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Why the hell would you want to get rid of Price?
You wouldn’t unless you lost your mind or were planning an Astros (now Orioles) - style teardown. And the latter is not remotely in the cards. The circumstances don’t come close to justifying it, and this fan base would not tolerate it. Price is a guy you continue to build around.

What might be wise in a month, depending on circumstances, is a Brain Cashman-style retool with a view to competing the very next year. The pieces are probably not there for that, but it should at least be considered if we’re trailing TB and NY by 10 and are more than 5 out in the WC.
 

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Is this a joke? Are you trolling? "Too little performance" is not a very good description of David Price.

3.63 ERA, 3.68 FIP, 1.165 WHIP, 123 ERA+, 9.2 K/9, 3.99 K/BB since they signed him.

2.70 ERA, 3.06 FIP, 1.05 WHIP, 172 ERA+, 10.4 K/9, 4.93 K/BB this year.

The guy is a top 10 pitcher in the league. If that's not good enough, your standards are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too fucking high.
Well, by BR WAR his 10.9 dials in at number 18 from 2016 to present, his Boston career. Price's 2019 salary is $31M, good for number four. Better value than Sandoval or Hanley, but for the right offer he could go.
 

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He lost me when he introduced politics into his Boston tenure by skipping the White House invitation.
Because he didn't go to kiss Trump's ring or because he didn't go period?

Your weak defense of your doubling down on the only black pitcher on the team coupled with your comment on Betts makes your agenda very clear.

Gonna guess you didn't think much of Jackie Robinson either.
 

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Well, by BR WAR his 10.9 dials in at number 18 from 2016 to present, his Boston career. Price's 2019 salary is $31M, good for number four. Better value than Sandoval or Hanley, but for the right offer he could go.
You understand WAR is a stat one accumulates and that Price missed a big chunk of the 2017 season right? Yet with that missed time, he's still top 20. That suggests that when healthy, he's been damn good.

But you're right on one thing...for the right offer, anyone can go. If we're going to be in sale mode, why not trade Sale for the "right offer"? Maybe Benintendi? Martinez? Why limit it to the three you initially named?
 

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You wouldn’t unless you lost your mind or were planning an Astros (now Orioles) - style teardown. And the latter is not remotely in the cards. The circumstances don’t come close to justifying it, and this fan base would not tolerate it. Price is a guy you continue to build around.

What might be wise in a month, depending on circumstances, is a Brain Cashman-style retool with a view to competing the very next year. The pieces are probably not there for that, but it should at least be considered if we’re trailing TB and NY by 10 and are more than 5 out in the WC.
I think, should they drop to a point where even the WC seems like a stretch, then this is the route they should take. Absolutely no way do they tear this thing completely down - too many quality players for that nonsense. So the idea would be to kind of punt on the rest of 2019, trading pieces that can net you really useful prospects that might be near MLB-ready and then add back next offseason. Heck, there could even be a wink-wink deal with JDM whereby they say, "We'll trade you to a contender, hopefully you get another ring, but we want you right back here next year." And maybe JDM is on board with that, opts out after this year, and re-signs with Boston. I'm sure the Yankees had that kind of discussion with Chapman. So in this scenario, the likely candidates would be JDM and Porcello and yes, especially if Porcello picks it up a little, he will have value to a contending team. Championship experience, still not crazy expensive, solid veteran...that's the kind of guy that contending teams actually look for. And JDM obviously.

Heck, Pearce may still be a guy they could move to a team who wants a RH bench bat with good postseason history. Holt would be a useful piece for someone as well, as could Moreland, if a team wants an excellent defensive 1b with some pop (assuming he gets healthy). JBJ clearly is a trade candidate, and while his defense is tremendous, I don't see as many teams being interested in him, but you never know.
 

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Who would want Rick Porcello? He is expensive and has been really mediocre. Which rotation does he noticeably improve?

JDM's market would be fringe AL contenders. So who gives up pieces for him? The Rangers?
 
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