I'm torn between "Sometime in December" and "Derrick Rose-style"........my gut says mid-January when we are 14-31 to show teams he's healthy prior to being dangled at the Trade Deadline.
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Plympton91 said:Where's the option for: "I don't watch or think about teams that aren't trying to win games" type people?
knucklecup said:Bradley will absolutely get a chance to start at the point and play heavy minutes. I think it will be good for him.
cardiacs said:
Why? He never looked good at PG. I don't think his skillset suits him playing there.
He's better playing defensive-minded SG with a distributor at PG.
knucklecup said:Bradley will absolutely get a chance to start at the point and play heavy minutes. I think it will be good for him.
I think Rondo will be out a month but I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him out there on opening night.
wutang112878 said:I voted after Jan 1st, there isnt much to gain from rushing Rondo back
Why do you think it will be good for him? When he has been asked to play that role our offense stagnated and his play dropped off. Playing the point and distributing the basketball doesnt seem to come easy to him, and it seems to be one of the skills that you really cant teach a player if it doesnt come naturally to some degree.
More generally, I want Bradley at the 2 as much as possible, its where he looks the best and where his value will be the highest which will be ideal for his trade value
HomeRunBaker said:
Good god, this is going to be one horrible NBA team.
HomeRunBaker said:
The more i think about it....well, more than the prior 8 seconds i had already thought about it....Bradley won't play the traditional PG role but more of the old "2 combo guards splitting responsibilities" with Courtney Lee in the starting lineup. Brooks/Crawford are best suited to get shots off with a second unit and without another NBA PG on the roster the only backcourt that you can really see with Rondo out is Bradley and Lee. Good god, this is going to be one horrible NBA team.
wutang112878 said:
I agree with your assessment of Bradley's capabilities, but let me propose a different offensive scenario. We could try to ask one or two of our mistfits in the Lee, Bradley, Crawford, Brooks and Bogans group to try to facilitate the basketball, but that is not a skill any of them have demonstrated they possess. In the hopes of increasing players value, why not center the offense around Green? Have someone in the backcourt simply bring the ball up, give the ball to Green at the top of the key and allow him to initiate the offense or let him operate with the ball in his hands. If Green played the 4 and had a 4 guarding him at the top of the key to start a play, the opponents defense would be out of place and it might compensate, in a small way, for our lack of quality bigs. Imagine going with an undersized lineup with Green at the 4 and Olynyk at the 5 and running a pick and roll with those two, the opponents offense would be a mess. I dont think we can win any meaningful basketball games with that type of lineup and offensive approach, but I do think we could put up some hollow offensive stats and make players appear to be valuable.
Leaving and never posting, anywhere, ever again.Plympton91 said:Where's the option for: "I don't watch or think about teams that aren't trying to win games" type people?
HomeRunBaker said:
I think that will be a primary set we run using Green in Pierce's old role during our Championship Season where Rondo brought the ball over halfcourt, dumped it to Pierce prior to hanging out on the weakside while The Big Three ran their offense. Of course Green is not Pierce, Olynyk is not KG, and Crawford isn't Ray Allen.......but he should put up some big numbers on this team.
The problem.....well, one of the problems, with this team is that Green isn't going to be playing much 4 (we have no other 3's but plenty of 4's) where he is at his best taking advantage of his quickness and penetrating ability. When he is matched up against 3's all of those advantages are negated and he's an easier defend.
wutang112878 said:
Its a minor thing, but while Rondo wasnt at the peak of his powers yet, he did a little more than just bring the ball up. He averaged 10ppg while shooting ~50% and got about 6 assists per game, and most importantly he was a threat to drive to the hoop which allowed Pierce to do a little less of that. His numbers werent great, but he was playing with the Big3 at the height of their powers.
Back to the current team and our 3s and 4s, I think we can just permanently go small. Have Olynyk and Sully play the 5, Green at the 4 and pretend that Wallace is an NBA caliber player who can play the 3. That lineup can probably make Green and Wallace look as good as they can and then maybe Wallace becomes movable for a bad not albatross contract? That lineup is still going to play some putrid basketball, but its probably one of the better offensive options we have. Considering the lack of talent we have, the black hole at PG and the absence of any outside shooting, the more traditional of a lineup we try to put out there the worse we are probably going to be offensively. Thats why I think it might be time to play a Nellie style of completely unorthodox small ball.
Your win projection is optimistic.HomeRunBaker said:I'm torn between "Sometime in December" and "Derrick Rose-style"........my gut says mid-January when we are 14-31 to show teams he's healthy prior to being dangled at the Trade Deadline.
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wutang112878 said:
Back to the current team and our 3s and 4s, I think we can just permanently go small...
That lineup is still going to play some putrid basketball, but its probably one of the better offensive options we have. Considering the lack of talent we have, the black hole at PG and the absence of any outside shooting, the more traditional of a lineup we try to put out there the worse we are probably going to be offensively.
Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said he'd be "shocked" if Rajon Rondo was ready for the start of the regular season in late October and hinted that an early December return is more likely for the All-Star point guard.
"I don't think he's close," Ainge said. "I don't think it's gonna happen in the next few weeks. We're not on pins and needles about it. We're being very cautious with Rondo. He's still got a little bit of a limp. He needs to get his strength back."
NBCSN basketball analyst Donny Marshall, however, says the Celtics have a major deal in the works that will eventually send Rondo to the Kings. In a discussion with Dave Briggs (@davebriggstv) on SportsDash, Marshall cited "the people [he talks] to" and said that the four-time All-Star point guard - along with multiple Celtics teammates - will be headed out west in a blockbuster.
mcaqua said:
Not sure what to make of this report, but I figured I'd post it here to get the reactions of folks who know a hell of a lot more about basketball than myself.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/sportsdash-donny-marshall-says-rajon-rondo-headed-kings-183508292--ocid.yahoo.html
the kings can't trade future first round picks until 2019, despite the fact that a similar rumor to this one today had the Cs getting multiple first round picks, doesn't make much sense for the Csmcaqua said:
Not sure what to make of this report, but I figured I'd post it here to get the reactions of folks who know a hell of a lot more about basketball than myself.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-sports/sportsdash-donny-marshall-says-rajon-rondo-headed-kings-183508292--ocid.yahoo.html
Yes they can. They just can't do multiple ones at the moment unless it's a three team deal with someone like Thornton going to Cleveland to erase the vaporware first.scottyno said:the kings can't trade future first round picks until 2019, despite the fact that a similar rumor to this one today had the Cs getting multiple first round picks, doesn't make much sense for the Cs
So desperate to participate in 5-on-5 action, Boston Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo invaded the Celtics' managerial offices last month trying to recruit bodies to help test his knee in a game-like environment.
According to Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge, Rondo failed in that quest, which in part led to him initiating discussions about joining the Maine Red Claws of the D-League in order to gain practice reps.
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That would suggest that Rondo might not head north with the D-League until some time after Jan. 11 if he ultimately elects to pursue that option.
It remains uncertain whether Rondo would participate in game action for Maine, something that has never really happened with an established NBA player on a rehab assignment
Spot on brotha!nighthob said:Well, generally speaking when the brace comes off it generally means they have another 4-6 weeks of rehab