What will be Cora's punishment from the commissioner?

[opes]

As Cora was fired today, we have discussed possible reasons to why the Sox did so preemptively. But what are likely possibilities for his punishment from the commissioner? I think its safe to assume he will be punished somehow and not escape the executioners axe. Similar to Hinch? Outright banned?


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[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

Two years. Sox get a punishment a bit lighter, but similar to, the Astros, on the ground that their conduct was not as bad but they were second time offenders.

Question whether any others in the organization might get a punishment, though -- maybe DD gets a year? (Though who knows how that would work.)

 

[mr_smith02]

If they find out he took what was going on in Houston and brought/used it in Boston, I think he gets a five-year ban.

 

[DeadlySplitter]

Indefinite ban with opportunity for reinstatement after ~5 years.

 

[bankshot1]

I think MLB has to weight deterence with fairness. Is Cora's offense a lifetime ban worthy? I don't think so. I also think getting a much greater penalty than Hinch is hypocritical. Hinch knew what was going on and could have blown the whistle at any time. And he was Cora's boss. But he didn't, he let it continue and he benefitted from it.

Hinch is MLB's Susan Collins.

IMO a 1-2 year suspension with an application for reinstatement would be sufficient for Cora.

 

[Dewey'sCannon]

Two years. Sox get a punishment a bit lighter, but similar to, the Astros, on the ground that their conduct was not as bad but they were second time offenders.

Question whether any others in the organization might get a punishment, though -- maybe DD gets a year? (Though who knows how that would work.)

Agree with this - think it will be two years of ineligibility for Cora. And probably six moths to a year of ineligibility for DD for failure to exercise proper oversight to ensure the MLB directive was being followed after the AppleWatch incident (but at least a year if there's evidence that he knew about the players using the replay monitors but did nothing to stop it).

 

[EvilEmpire]

IMO a 1-2 year suspension with an application for reinstatement would be sufficient for Cora.

I agree with this.

I think it will be an indefinite suspension and he can apply for reinstatement after one year. Maybe back in one, maybe two. I suspect MLB will like the optics of 'indefinite suspension' even though they already have an idea that it will be one or two years.

 

[Saints Rest]

They could suspend him for 18 months nominally, which makes it seem only a bit longer than Hinch, but in effect it would be almost a 2-year ban as there is much less likelihood that a team hires him mid-season.

 

[OurF'ingCity]

I said in the other thread I expect him to get the Taubman ban, which is exactly the scenario EE describes above. Going further, my wild guess that he does apply for reinstatement after one year for a smaller, less visible role (one of those "special assistant" type deals) with some team and is granted it after releasing a public statement of contrition, and then starts to get back into actually managing (e.g. as a bench coach, etc.) in 2022.

 

[YTF]

Minor point here, but the mention the Taubman ban by OFC reminds me that since he was already fired by Houston, I believe he is officially in MLB's ineligible list which is how I'm guessing Cora will be designated now that he's not employed by the Red Sox.

 

[DadOfFenway]

I really think it is at least two years.... believe the Sox know that and with two years left on his contract made the somewhat easy decision to part ways.

 

[lexrageorge]

I am thinking it will be indefinite with the ability to apply for reinstatement in 2 years. Unless Cora attempted to cover up his involvement in the Houston fiasco, in which case he would not be given the reinstatement option, as coverups are always punished more severely than the crime.

He will probably have to work his way back up the managerial ranks, but I don't believe he will be blackballed by the league, as he seems to have the respect of a number of players and front office folks even outside the Red Sox organization.

 

[reggiecleveland]

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[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

I can see MLB issuing a severe formal ban of 2 to 5 years in order to make a statement, but with the opportunity to apply for reinstatement after 1 year, which they will grant. By then this particular case will have died down and fewer people will care.

 

[opes]

The more I think about it, I think the MLB will come down hard on Cora to send a message to everyone to think twice about sign stealing. 2 to 5 year ban is probably what is going to happen. The MLB has an opportunity here to put an end to this, and I think they grab it.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

The more I think about it, I think the MLB will come down hard on Cora to send a message to everyone to think twice about sign stealing. 2 to 5 year ban is probably what is going to happen. The MLB has an opportunity here to put an end to this, and I think they grab it.

Think twice about sign stealing or think twice about using technology explicitly disallowed by the league to steal signs in real time? Because sign stealing is a part of the game and has been for a century and a half. It's not going away nor should it. But elaborate schemes with clandestine cameras and video monitors and wearable devices meant to steal signs and transmit the information to the hitter in real time is something that should go away. This isn't going to make runners at second base suddenly stop trying to figure out catcher's signals and warn the hitters somehow. Or fielders from watching the 3rd base coach giving signs and figure out if a bunt or a hit and run is coming.

 

[Saints Rest]

I can see MLB issuing a severe formal ban of 2 to 5 years in order to make a statement, but with the opportunity to apply for reinstatement after 1 year, which they will grant. By then this particular case will have died down and fewer people will care.

I could see this approach, but the reduction being tied to an active participation by Cora to figure out how to legislate agents future similar activities by all teams. IOW, make Cora be the hacker who figures out the firewall protections.

 

[reggiecleveland]

I could see this approach, but the reduction being tied to an active participation by Cora to figure out how to legislate agents future similar activities by all teams. IOW, make Cora be the hacker who figures out the firewall protections.

That idea is dubious. It only has any merit if Cora cheated because he was somehow this genius that figured out what do do rather than simply being willing to do it.

 

[Patek's 3 Dingers]

That idea is dubious. It only has any merit if Cora cheated because he was somehow this genius that figured out what do do rather than simply being willing to do it.

I believe that the significance of the fines incurred by the Astros and the likelihood of a ("Where's the") whistleblower has solved the problem.