Disagree. Brady completely poached Ohio this year (still have my fingers crossed on Dunn) leading to a top 5 recruiting class and I would've liked Brady to have been able to fill the the next 3-4 classes without much resistance from Akron State. Alas, Urban Legend will likely have that program back on track in '13, if not sooner in '12. After the shellacking UM took over the past 8 seasons, I would've liked a few laughers of our own, but take care of #1 first, and everything else will fall into place I guess.
That Florida booster must be very out of touch to what went down there. Bob Stoops and Billy Gonzalez have more to do with him leaving than some co-eds.a friend of mine who is good friends with a Florida booster (suite owner type) said he was told Meyer was forced out due to several indiscretions with co-eds at UF. I had never heard that before, but my buddy said it was pretty well known within SEC. I guess OSU knows their co-eds can't compare to UF's, so why not?
Yeah, Meyer's indiscretions are almost universally joked about, but I never heard they were a factor in his departure.
I'm still on the fence about this. It will no doubt be harder for Michigan to recruit and play against Ohio State, but the conference badly needs credibility after winning only 1.5 national championships in the last four decades. The cult of the SEC has helped its teams enter the national championship game now that opinion polls count for 2/3 of the BCS formula.
He didn't land a single kid from Ohio from what I've seen (going through Scout). Most of his players came from Florida and from what I've heard, people do expect him to tap into those resources. He is revered in those parts. He also got some players from Georgia, Texas and California as well as some of the powerhouse schools like Good Counsel in MD and Don Bosco Prep in NJ. The big thing for him will be to reestablish the ties in Ohio, and I believe part of that will come from the relationships of the other coaches and personnel he brings in.
I don't want to get pulled into a pissing match, but if you think Greg Mattison was his top recruiter then you haven't been following college football for very long.
I wasn't stating my opinion (hence the quotes). I was stating Urban Meyer's:
Mattison is the guy that recruited Tebow as well. Now, he could have just been lavishing lofty praise on of his former coordinator, but I'm sure that he valued Mattison a lot as a recruiter when he had him on his staff.
Can someone explain to me how Meyer's hiring makes The Game competitive? I mean....if Braxton had connected with Posey then we would be talking about 9 straight and a stud QB going into his sophomore year. Charlie Weis had a good first year at ND with a good QB as well.
Because the default is a competitive Game. Tressel won 5 of 6 before RichRod came in, but only 2 of those games were decided by as much as a touchdown -- including the Michigan win. The theory that it will be more competitive is based on the belief that it was about to become uncompetitive the other way. Michigan has a Top 5 recruiting class (#1 Scout; #2 Rivals), the best defensive coordinator it's had in over a decade, and OSU is likely facing NCAA sanctions that could include at least a one-year bowl ban.
Hmm? Ohio State's D had, what, 7 new starters this year and still was pretty good. I think they might lose 2 of those guys after this year. That they were able to win 6 games with a lame-duck HC and a true freshman QB indicates that their current talent is probably just fine. They had one loss that was by more than one score. I think they are much closer than people realize to being very, very good -- Miller is exactly the kind of QB that does well in Meyer's system.
There's this thing called Youtube:
Eye of the beholder, I guess. They gave up 355 yards per game in the Big Ten, and teams that could run (Michigan, PSU, Nebraska, even Miami) did so at will against them. (Wisconsin probably wins its game if they give the ball to Montee Ball more instead of trying to air it out.)
I just watched the video. I guess you have to throw the PF flag. Denard is 2 yards deep in the end zone, so you have no reason to be blocking. I don't know how often that penalty happens, but it seems legit to me. Couldn't really see the hold from the angle on youtube, but I'll take yours and sach's word for it.
Sure. But let's count any potential conference championship games. I can't wait until we win The Game twice in one year.
He had the same problem at Notre Dame. They had a rule where he wasn't allowed to be alone in a room with a female under 25. His family contract probably is "Daddy will stop sleeping at Delta Zeta house all week."a friend of mine who is good friends with a Florida booster (suite owner type) said he was told Meyer was forced out due to several indiscretions with co-eds at UF. I had never heard that before, but my buddy said it was pretty well known within SEC. I guess OSU knows their co-eds can't compare to UF's, so why not?
Wow, you have been relevant for all of a few weeks now and you are talking smack already? Thanks for reminding us why we think you are total tools, the 8 years of sticking it up your a$$ so far you couldn't see it had dimmed the memories a bit.
I'm pretty sure it was only a seven year win streak. And that's if you count last year's vacated win. You could be thinking of OSU's all-time record in Bowl Games against the SEC, but that's not quite right either.
Good luck in Indianapolis this weekend!
Well, I've got to do it now while I can. Spending the next two years gloating because the NCAA won't let you play in the Little Caesars Bowl doesn't seem like as much fun.
We all know that tOSU is too big too fail, the NCAA will not hold us out of bowl games. Is that right? Absolutely not. But is it true?
Forgive us. Victory after 7 years (including three in the wilderness of the RichRod era) can fill even the most hard-bitten realists with a sense of euphoric delusion.
Not during the Tressel era. There is a lot about the Tressel era that is well and truly shameful - graduation rates that could be achieved with mongoloids, NCAA infractions, poor life guidance for young men, etc. - but that dude locked the doors.
I don't think we're a powerhouse. Can we be one in the future? Probably. Some Michigan people are being way too optimistic. Additionally, everyone makes it out like Ohio State has no talent. They're full of talent. Coaching and leadership let them down this year.
Yeah. During Rich Rod, recruiting deficiencies are well publicized. I didn't follow the end of the Carr era, but he still managed to pull stars like Manningham up. Hoke and co have been very aggressive in reestablishing ties in Ohio. They've been very successful too. I'm waiting to see how things go once they go head to head vs Meyer.
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