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Cesar Crespo

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Agreed. That's $10.75M in total salary vs at least $13M (or $24M+ over two years) + two other players.

I was one who advocated for re-signing JBJ at a reasonable price (and I didn't think $10-12M AAV was unreasonable). But Bloom made the decision to spend the money on three more versatile players. Players that to this point have been disappointing, but still have been a more efficient use of the money from a roster building perspective.
Enrique is on pace for a 2.7 WAR season in 127 games played. Hard to say that's a disappointing outcome for $6 mil. If he repeats it next year at his $ 8mil price tag, it's eerily similar to JBJ's 2.5 and 2.1 WAR seasons in 2018/19 where he was paid 6.1 and 8.5 million. His season could easily go either way or a hot or cold streak though. The other guys, yeah.

Verdugo has been good and Renfroe has been solid too. There's Duran on the farm tearing the cover off the ball. There are wildcards in Cordero and Marcus Wilson OF is pretty covered.
 

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A .697 OPS aint what it used to be. It's good for an OPS+ of 89. He's another good week away from being an average hitter. It's also light years away from a .509 OPS, and a 41 OPS+. Enrique should not be lumped in with Marwin, Santana or JBJ for production to date.

Even if you happen to think Enrique, Marwin and Santana were the wrong decisions, it doesn't make signing JBJ the correct one. Maybe he rebounds, but atm, passing looks like the correct move. This is more true if Duran works out.
What makes you think he's going to have another good week? He hasn't had a lot of them.

Agreed on JBJ though. Definitely a bullet dodged there.
 

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I noted a number of plays in CF JBJ would have likely made which were not made by various occupiers of the position. I'm not arguing it makes up entirely for lack of plate production but his absence is definitely noticeable out there. He knew how to play CF at Fenway.
 

Cesar Crespo

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What makes you think he's going to have another good week? He hasn't had a lot of them.

Agreed on JBJ though. Definitely a bullet dodged there.
I'm not sure if he will. I think his season could take a turn for the good or the bad but his season to date hasn't been horrible. Lumping in a guy with roughly a .700 OPS with 3 other guys hovering around .500 doesn't seem fair. It'll take a lot more than a good week to turn their season around.

Enrique could go 5/10 with 3 doubles and 2 walks and be league average.
 

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Is there a point in trading back for him, if we can get MKE to pay, say, 75%, of his contract?
 

Ale Xander

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What do you suppose Milwaukee would want in return for eating about $13M?
Enrique?
Some prospect that's blocked here?

I have no clue, just throwing an idea out there, but if they paid JBJ all that money, maybe their desires aren;t rational. I just think he's worth more here than there.
 

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Is there a point in trading back for him, if we can get MKE to pay, say, 75%, of his contract?
Given that Duran is going to be called up sooner or later there really doesn't seem to be a spot on the team for JBJ even if Milwaukee had any interest in trading him (I suspect they do not, if only in the hope that he can go on a hot streak to pump his value a little before they trade him).
 

Ale Xander

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Given that Duran is going to be called up sooner or later there really doesn't seem to be a spot on the team for JBJ even if Milwaukee had any interest in trading him (I suspect they do not, if only in the hope that he can go on a hot streak to pump his value a little before they trade him).
True. It depends how many of the flotsam/jetsam (Enrique/Marwin/Santana/Chavis/Dalbec) are on the active ML roster. If 3+, then yes, no spot after Duran. But at 25% of salary, he'd be good as a 4th or 5th OF IMHO if half his games were at Fenway.
 

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An example of how non Boston fans are different

My Brewers buddy from WI is like "It's ok, we just need him to play D...he's the 8 hitter anyway". That's it. No concern about his awfulness at the plate at all or the contract.
 

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An example of how non Boston fans are different

My Brewers buddy from WI is like "It's ok, we just need him to play D...he's the 8 hitter anyway". That's it. No concern about his awfulness at the plate at all or the contract.
When I first moved to San Diego (18 years ago) I was in a bar and a Padres-Dodgers game was on. That was the big local rivalry from what I understood. A Padres player committed an atrocious error, and the guy sitting next to me said "Aw, that's too bad, he'll get em next time." He didn't swear, didn't threaten to murder the guy, nothing. I immediately knew I was on a different planet. I must have given him an odd look because the guy then went on to tell me about the player's charity work in the area. For a moment I thought that maybe other places in the country were putting sports in their proper perspective. I then imagined Shea Hillenbrand screwing up a play with a game on the line, saw red, and decided these people were crazy.

Also, the fish tacos I was eating at the time were excellent.
 

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When I first moved to San Diego (18 years ago) I was in a bar and a Padres-Dodgers game was on. That was the big local rivalry from what I understood. A Padres player committed an atrocious error, and the guy sitting next to me said "Aw, that's too bad, he'll get em next time." He didn't swear, didn't threaten to murder the guy, nothing. I immediately knew I was on a different planet. I must have given him an odd look because the guy then went on to tell me about the player's charity work in the area. For a moment I thought that maybe other places in the country were putting sports in their proper perspective. I then imagined Shea Hillenbrand screwing up a play with a game on the line, saw red, and decided these people were crazy.

Also, the fish tacos I was eating at the time were excellent.
Bruce Hurst seconds this post, all except for the fish tacos (well, maybe he likes fish tacos too).
 

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Just thought I'd bump this so we could all rediscover our love for our new old player.
 

ngruz25

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JBJ's return does present a new problem.

From 2017 to 2020, Jackie wore #19. With JBJ gone last year, the Red Sox gave #19 to Hirokazu Sawamura.

From 2013 to 2016, Jackie wore #25. JBJ might ask for his old number back, but that number is currently held by recently resigned Kevin Plawecki.

Maybe he should look to the number he used last year in Milwaukee? No dice, as #41 is the property of Chris Sale.

There is one final option. JBJ broke into the league sporting #44. Unfortunately, that number was last worn in 2021 by Brad Peacock, so I have to imagine that all copies of the jersey number and the template used to cut the fabric were properly disposed of, never to be used again.
 

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My favorite part of re-reading this thread was the hand-wringing around Enrique. Teehee.

And the "It's a HR, jk, lol" deke, that was awesome!
 

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JBJ's return does present a new problem.

From 2017 to 2020, Jackie wore #19. With JBJ gone last year, the Red Sox gave #19 to Hirokazu Sawamura.

From 2013 to 2016, Jackie wore #25. JBJ might ask for his old number back, but that number is currently held by recently resigned Kevin Plawecki.

Maybe he should look to the number he used last year in Milwaukee? No dice, as #41 is the property of Chris Sale.

There is one final option. JBJ broke into the league sporting #44. Unfortunately, that number was last worn in 2021 by Brad Peacock, so I have to imagine that all copies of the jersey number and the template used to cut the fabric were properly disposed of, never to be used again.
He wore #74 the first Spring Training that I saw him in 2013. He looked great then, maybe he can go back to that? (I think Connor Wong used that last year).
 

Zedia

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JBJ's return does present a new problem.

From 2017 to 2020, Jackie wore #19. With JBJ gone last year, the Red Sox gave #19 to Hirokazu Sawamura.

From 2013 to 2016, Jackie wore #25. JBJ might ask for his old number back, but that number is currently held by recently resigned Kevin Plawecki.

Maybe he should look to the number he used last year in Milwaukee? No dice, as #41 is the property of Chris Sale.

There is one final option. JBJ broke into the league sporting #44. Unfortunately, that number was last worn in 2021 by Brad Peacock, so I have to imagine that all copies of the jersey number and the template used to cut the fabric were properly disposed of, never to be used again.
I still think JBJ would‘ve been a HOFer if he just kept 44. Why change?