Week 8 College Football Gamethread

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Domer said:
I like our chances against them in New Orleans, Pasadena, or Arlington.
You guys played great...was pulling for you.

Still, going to be awfully hard for nd to get in the tourney.
 

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He's Maurice Clarett. I expect his career to turn out the same way.
That's a pretty good and interesting comp. I do think jameis gets a bigger shot bc qb skills are so hard to come by. Rbs, even good ones, are so replaceable.

Winston does seem to be able to make all the throws and he sees the field really well
 

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I think you guys are really not giving FSU credit for this win.  They were a 9 point favorite, but let's not forget that ND is the #5 team in the country, and based on what I saw tonight, I believe that ranking.  Notre Dame played one of their best games in recent memory, and FSU took every punch and countered.  That second half offensively was a master piece by the Noles.  Could Miss. State or Ole Miss beat them?  Maybe.  But other than maybe Alabama, I wouldn't have an issue betting on FSU straight up against any team in the country.  They are really, really good.  If this season proves anything, it is not easy to win week in and week out.  Yet, FSU does it.  Shit, the Pats just beat the shitty ass Jets by the skin of their teeth and most folks, myself included, were saying "hey, a win is a win."  Not sure why that doesn't apply here.  Until someone beats them, I think they are #1 now (and I was the one who called Miss. State leap frogging them last week) after this win.
 
Just to be clear.  I hate FSU.  I just hate ND more than I do any other college team, by a wide, wide margin.
 

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twibnotes said:
You guys played great...was pulling for you.

Still, going to be awfully hard for nd to get in the tourney.
Will probably need a few teams to lose but @Arizona st , vs. Louisville , @usc gives them a chance to pick up wins over 3 top 25 teams . Certainly much better than what Mich. st or even OSU can do the rest of the way out.
 

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twibnotes said:
You guys played great...was pulling for you.

Still, going to be awfully hard for nd to get in the tourney.
I expect ND to be considered 6th behind 4 SEC West schools who still have two games against each other.
 

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Can anyone explain why Fisher coached the FSU final drive like it was leather helmet football? Winston was on fire in the 2nd half, but 3 runs vs the ND defense that contained the run the entire game.

It's the middle of October. Playoff speculation is still too premature.
 

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Domer said:
I like our chances against them in New Orleans, Pasadena, or Arlington.
 
 
Obviously ND need to run the table and may still need to get some help (such as the committee decide to ignore the fact there should be 2 SEC West teams in the final 4)
 
Running the table is going to be real tough.  Northwestern and Navy should be easy wins,  but  USC is ok and starting to show some signs of life,    AND ASU and Louisville are better than USC
 
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Deathofthebambino said:
I   I just hate ND more than I do any other college team, by a wide, wide margin.
 
 
Vinho Tinto said:
Can anyone explain why Fisher coached the FSU final drive like it was leather helmet football? Winston was on fire in the 2nd half, but 3 runs vs the ND defense that contained the run the entire game.

It's the middle of October. Playoff speculation is still too premature.
 
 

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Deathofthebambino said:
I think you guys are really not giving FSU credit for this win.  They were a 9 point favorite, but let's not forget that ND is the #5 team in the country, and based on what I saw tonight, I believe that ranking.  Notre Dame played one of their best games in recent memory, and FSU took every punch and countered.  That second half offensively was a master piece by the Noles.  Could Miss. State or Ole Miss beat them?  Maybe.  But other than maybe Alabama, I wouldn't have an issue betting on FSU straight up against any team in the country.  They are really, really good.  If this season proves anything, it is not easy to win week in and week out.  Yet, FSU does it.  Shit, the Pats just beat the shitty ass Jets by the skin of their teeth and most folks, myself included, were saying "hey, a win is a win."  Not sure why that doesn't apply here.  Until someone beats them, I think they are #1 now (and I was the one who called Miss. State leap frogging them last week) after this win.
 
Just to be clear.  I hate FSU.  I just hate ND more than I do any other college team, by a wide, wide margin.
 
I'm pretty much in the same boat. FSU played a great second half, they went to three step drops to counteract the blitz, and that turned the game. It was a great game and could have gone either way, but FSU put themselves in position to win by their play in the second half. And I really hate FSU, for like, a couple decades. I have them #1, mainly because they've played fewer scrubs. 
 

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Kelly is just too funny in postgame
 
"He did exactly what he is supposed to do. Exactly what he's supposed to do. We do it legally, and that's the way we coach it.   We don't coach illegal plays."
 
There was a less blatant illegal contact on the first TD.
 

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BigMike said:
Kelly is just too funny in postgame
 
"He did exactly what he is supposed to do. Exactly what he's supposed to do. We do it legally, and that's the way we coach it.   We don't coach illegal plays."
 
There was a less blatant illegal contact on the first TD.
 
Memo to Kelly:  If you coach them to run the play like that, then yeah, you're coaching an illegal play, jackass.
 
I will admit there's a part of me that feels sick about anything that benefits FSU, but that feeling is tempered by the belief that they will eventually forfeit the season at some point in the future.
 

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ND did itself a world of good. The line was justified by recent outings and recent history in not posting in games of this magnitude. They gave the country a heck of a game on a giant stage and no doubt reduced fears of a ND embarrassment in a playoff. But they need to take care of business the rest of the way, play impressively and not just win.
 

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dcmissle said:
ND did itself a world of good. The line was justified by recent outings and recent history in not posting in games of this magnitude. They gave the country a heck of a game on a giant stage and no doubt reduced fears of a ND embarrassment in a playoff. But they need to take care of business the rest of the way, play impressively and not just win.
Stanford loss doesn't help though. ND now has exactly zero wins against ranked opponents.
 

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twibnotes said:
Stanford loss doesn't help though. ND now has exactly zero wins against ranked opponents.
The Stanford loss doesn't matter, because Arizona State is also on the schedule.
 

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Domer said:
The Stanford loss doesn't matter, because Arizona State is also on the schedule.
Regardless, the selection committee is going to want to see good wins, as many as possible. Think it's a legit question as to whether ND will have enough.

Should have joined a conference! At least you'd get an extra chance at a big win.
 

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twibnotes said:
Regardless, the selection committee is going to want to see good wins, as many as possible. Think it's a legit question as to whether ND will have enough.

Should have joined a conference! At least you'd get an extra chance at a big win.
They probably need some help by having things fall right. Nonetheless, last night was the only kind of loss that would have left ND with ANY chance.
 

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twibnotes said:
Regardless, the selection committee is going to want to see good wins, as many as possible. Think it's a legit question as to whether ND will have enough.
Should have joined a conference! At least you'd get an extra chance at a big win.
Yes, they should join the ACC. Then they will have a schedule full of cupcake opponents, with maybe two hard games. And they can play those at home. And get a high ranking handed to them on that basis.

Just like Florida State.
 

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So ASU loses their starting QB and wins 2 out of 3 vs UCLA, U$C and Stanford. While the UCLA loss was awful, it was much worse on the score board vs the stat sheet as backup QB made a lot of poor decisions that lead to UCLA points. 
 
:fap:  :fap:  :fap:  :fap:  :fap:  :fap:
 
I have zero predictions for ND in three weeks other than I'll be really drunk
 

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I don't even understand the rule with all the changes between the college and pro game so asking for clarification. I have several diehard Notre Dame friends who are irate and hysterical about "the penalty" as Raider fans are over the tuck rule. To me the blatant penalty was on the outside slot receiver who clearly blocked and drove the corner into the end zone even though the focus was on the inside receiver lined up at the line of scrimmage.

I thought this was clearly an interference penalty.....am I wrong? I'm only asking due to the insanity of so many people who tend to understand the game as well as Coach Kelly all but calling out the official for costing the Irish the game.
 

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The receiver has to make it look like he's going to be a target. He can't look like a blocker unless it's a run play or until after the pass is caught. He either has to go out into a route, or just turn and face the QB. He could have turned and backed into the DB with his butt like a 90s point guard avoiding a handcheck, and he'd probably have been fine. 
 
Kelly's covering for his guys, which is fine, take the heat off the players, that's what good college coaches do. He probably told them that a little contact is fine, but that was way too much. That two of them were doing it, it's hilarious.
 

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That's basically how I saw it. Saturday night I only caught a glimpse as I was watching another game, but thought the call from my ND buddy was insane overreaction. When I saw it the next morning I just went, huh that's PI
 

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As a disclaimer, I can't stand ND. When the asteroid strikes, South Bend is an acceptable location for me. Watching them writhe in agony over the call brings some level of satisfaction. That being written, I think they got the short end of a tough call. FSU was playing tight man on the two outside receivers (Jr. was on the inside slot and the DB was off the line covering the slant/inside routes). Whomever #20 is should have turned - you're right that it wouldn't have hurt him, Infidel - but he was being fully engaged by the DB, who initiated and continued contact. I thought the DB on the outside jumped the route of the outside receiver, who it looked to me was running a Z-in. When I try to recollect assignments on that sort of play, I believe the cover responsibility fell to the DB that jumped the route, who effectively took himself out of the play.

Tough play to officiate all around. Hardly an injustice.