Week 7 NFL Game Thread: We’re on to the AFCCG Preview.
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Jesus Joe you ran your guy right into the tackle. How dafuq did this bum make so much damn money?
As bad as Flacco has been, his QB rating tonight (79.7) is almost double the qb rating of every QB that has played the Pats this year, combined (42.6)
I missed it because I was having a delightful steak dinner at Harris. And man, am I glad I did. Both games look like they suuuuuuuucked.
Indeed, Rodgers at present is arguably not even in the Top 10. He's currently ranked 20th in passer rating.
After looking up the rating stats, I am amazed to see Kyle Allen ranked 5th, with a rating above 100.(106.6) Cam at 32nd, with a rating of 71.
Life comes at you fast.
edit - and Baker Mayfield basically has the same rating as. . . .Luke Falk. Holy cow has he fucking sucked this year. That's abysmal. Bad coaching or not, he's been horrendous. Smallish sample size, but also not, 37% of the season is in the books for them.
Carolina would be crazy to play Cam. It's overplayed, but man if that isn't a Ewing Theory candidate I don't know what is.
Seriously? You want to know why it would disappointing for 2 generational quarterbacks to never play against each other?
He's definitely been generational. He's not Eli.
edit - only 20 quarterbacks in the history of the NFL have started at least two super bowls. Rodgers winning only one doesn't tarnish his legacy.
Yeah--only 61 QBs have ever started a SB. Only 30 (I think) have won a SB. Going to 1 and winning 1, on top of his numbers, burnishes his legacy.
I think you have to define generational. You talking the single best of his generation or one of the several best players over some period? The term generational talent gets thrown around entirely too much. Clearly the last 20 years have been owned by Brady (and Manning).
Rodgers has the highest QB rating in the history of the NFL.
How is that for generational?
The weird thing is that a lot of Rodgers' rep for being great / generational is based on that stats ... but his last great statistical season was in 2014.
EDIT: eh, you could talk me into 2016, too. But with missing half of 2013 and not being that good in 2015, his peak is pretty limited and he hasn't had the kind of post-peak continued excellence that peers like Brady, Manning, and Brees have had.
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How many "generational" talents can an era have? Pre-Brady (1980-2000?) had...Montana, Elway, Aikman, Marino, Young, Moon, Kelly. How many of them would you consider to be generational? Montana, Elway and Marino?
Post-Brady (2000-2020?), you have Favre, Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, Warner, Luck, Ryan, Wilson. How many can be considered generational before it loses its meaning? 3? 4? I would say the current crop would be Brady and Manning. The rest are franchise faces (with Wilson possibly leading the next generational pack)
Post-Brady (2000-2020?), you have Favre, Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Big Ben, Rivers, Warner, Luck, Ryan, Wilson. How many can be considered generational before it loses its meaning? 3? 4? I would say the current crop would be Brady and Manning. The rest are franchise faces (with Wilson possibly leading the next generational pack)
8am? I sent it at 11:30am. I just happened to look it up, because I knew he was ranked high on the rating scale and we were talking about it. I didn't even know he was number 1. All time.
Just a brief repeat, he's number One all time in the Quarterback rating stat. That's generational. You can say that stat has its flaws, and it does, but I'm not saying Rodgers is the best of all time. But he is generational.
Yeah this is my line of thinking. Wilson and of course Mahomes have that potential.
I agree, I was just throwing out all those who have may have had claim to being a top-5 QB in multiple seasons.
You have to wonder how this will affect him though, physically and mentally, with his scrambling.
Glad he's okay though, he's fun.
Good point heard on the Rich Eisen radio show this morning:
The fourth game from now is the Chargers on a questionable field in Mexico, then the Chiefs have their bye
With so much invested in the kid long-term, do you risk him in that fourth game?
I wouldn't, nor would most rational people. However, not sure how rational the KC coaching staff is.
Any chance the Raiders or Chargers can make a serious run in their division if KC goes 1-2 in their next 3 games? I love Mahomes, think he's great for the game, but from a Patriots fan point of view, I rather not deal with them in the playoffs at all.
No way in hell do I risk him. That decision may ultimately rest on how they do without him.
Good news = no big chunks of cartilage or bone chipped off and the medial patellofemoral ligament (MPFL) that holds the kneecap in place is injured but probably not full torn and flapping in the breeze. I'm sure he has bone contusions (usually two, one medial patella and one lateral femur where they bones knock against each other) and an MPFL sprain.
A few weeks and he can probably give it another go. The problem is that this almost never happens in a relatively minor trauma without an underlying structural problem with your knee. The patella sits in a groove at the distal femur, and if this groove is not deep enough, the patella is more likely to slip out (like a golf ball sitting on a flat tee).
This isn't going to fix itself with more rest, and if it happens one time, there's a good chance it will happen again. Offseason surgery is likely but they'll just pray he can make it through the rest of the season first.
A few weeks and he can probably give it another go. The problem is that this almost never happens in a relatively minor trauma without an underlying structural problem with your knee. The patella sits in a groove at the distal femur, and if this groove is not deep enough, the patella is more likely to slip out (like a golf ball sitting on a flat tee).
This isn't going to fix itself with more rest, and if it happens one time, there's a good chance it will happen again. Offseason surgery is likely but they'll just pray he can make it through the rest of the season first.
They can try that, though more often I see a combination of these 3:
1. Cut lateral patellar retinaculum (lateral ligaments) to avoid this "pull" on the patella to the outside of the knee
2. Repair medial ligaments (MPFL) to stabilize inside of knee and prevent patella from dislocating to outside of the knee again
3. Re-align the tracking of the patella, as often the patellar tendon in these patients inserts too far on the outside of the shin bone and pulls kneecap outward. If you move the tendon insertion closer to the direct front of the shin bone, it's much harder to dislocate the patella laterally.
For what its worth, Maholmes always seem to run a bit knock-kneed to me, I bet he has some abnormal patellofemoral alignment in the background predisposing him to this they will address in the offseason (if it can wait).
I assure you, you never see this kind of analysis at chiefsplanet.com
Thank you, RSF.
Post it there as a public service? Or would it just scare / confuse the locals?
This is my exact condition with my knees. More so on the right than left. I’ve fully dislocated my right patella twice and had multiple subluxations in each. (A subluxation is when the patella slips out and then returns, as opposed to a full dislocation)
I was “diagnosed” with the shallow grooves.
With no ligament damage., his biggest issue will be swelling, range of motion and instability of the patella.
I’m sure a professional training staff will have him ready quicker than I ever was (mine were always like 6 weeks until I felt close to 100%)
If he does have “shallow” grooves, he’s been really lucky to not have had this happen previously in his career so maybe this was just bad luck.
The last sentence is the part that has surprised me the most. I had one classmates in grade school and another in High school who had recurring issues with this. They both have had multiple surgeries to address it.
How does a professional athlete make it this long without this injury happening previously if it's the "shallow groove" issue? Luck, or has the leg strengthening programs done as an NFL QB exasperated an unknown issue?