Week 4 NFL Game Thread

[Three10toLeft]

Pay that man.

 

[amarshal2]

Oh my god. And now they want their TO back.

 

[k-factory]

Classic Lions.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Most Lions thing ever.

 

[Dogman]

So that Caldwell TO.  
 
Nicely done.

 

[soxhop411]

Lions.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

Wowser. Great play by a great player. I was thinking worst case scenario is overtime for Detroit. Then I remembered, Detroit.

 

[ifmanis5]

I guess that makes Chancellor at least a 1 WAR player.

 

[Dollar]

I can't believe they wasted that timeout.  Oh wait, it's Jim Caldwell.  I totally believe it.

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

Is that considered a lost fumble if it goes out of the endzone?  It wasn't recovered, so technically not "lost".

 

[BlackJack]

Anyone with a recap of what the hell just happened? I'm not watching but the NFL app is saying a -89 yard pass for a safety?!?

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

To be fair that was a great play, but shit protect the ball man.

 

[Fishercat]

If you scripted a ridiculous way to lose this game, that's about what you'd expect.

 

[Section15Box113]

Can't give up that much yardage when you need the stop.
 
Feel bad for our Lions fan members.

 

[singaporesoxfan]

 Maybe Calvin Johnson should stop making football moves.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Is that considered a lost fumble if it goes out of the endzone?  It wasn't recovered, so technically not "lost".

The defender batted it out. Should it have been a safety? Or is that a legal bat?

 

[Senator Donut]

Why wasn't that illegal batting on Wright?

 

[ngruz25]

Anyone with a recap of what the hell just happened? I'm not watching but the NFL app is saying a -89 yard pass for a safety?!?

Nailed it. Just use your imagination.

(Johnson fumbled out of the back of the end zone, Seattle ball.)

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Is that considered a lost fumble if it goes out of the endzone?  It wasn't recovered, so technically not "lost".

 
This rule may change next year. 
 
If the ball goes out of bounds anywhere other than the end zone, the offense gets to keep the ball. It's silly that defense gets it if ball goes out of bounds in the end zone. 

 

[ifmanis5]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more Lions-y.

 

[Section15Box113]

It worked, but WTF were they thinking?
 
Pete, that was not smart.

 

[patinorange]

Detroit. What can you say? Just awful.

 

[Dogman]

Anyone with a recap of what the hell just happened? I'm not watching but the NFL app is saying a -89 yard pass for a safety?!?

 
 
Megatron had the ball punched out at the one yard line and the ball bounced to the back of the end zone where it was batted out by a Seattle LB.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Who on the Lions roster can BB pick off?

 

[Dollar]

Wait, Yahoo seems to not be scoring that as a lost fumble.  Is that because nobody picked it up?  That seems crazy to me.
 
edit: nevermind, they finally fixed it

 

[Ale Xander]

Gjge Caldwell

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

This rule may change next year. 
 
If the ball goes out of bounds anywhere other than the end zone, the offense gets to keep the ball. It's silly that defense gets it if ball goes out of bounds in the end zone.

It should change. Really makes no sense.

 

[Dahabenzapple2]

 
This rule may change next year. 
 
If the ball goes out of bounds anywhere other than the end zone, the offense gets to keep the ball. It's silly that defense gets it if ball goes out of bounds in the end zone. 

This is spot on. It's been a bad rule forever. It's about time that it's changed.

 

[Three10toLeft]

Did Tate and Wilson hug it out?

 

[Stitch01]

The defender batted it out. Should it have been a safety? Or is that a legal bat?

He batted it toward his own side of the field its fine.

 

[Section15Box113]

"A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.

(b) A ball in player possession."
 
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

 

[wibi]

Did Tate and Wilson hug it out?

 
Wilson moved way up as a result of Tate sleeping with his wife.  That was very likely a thank you hug

 

[ifmanis5]

Keep thinking of the Ben Watson play. Ben fucking Watson.

 

[amarshal2]

"A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.

(b) A ball in player possession."
 
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

Whoa.

The Hawks always seem to get all these little breaks.

Except that one time. (!!!!!!)

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

"A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.

(b) A ball in player possession."
 
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

 
Is the end zone "in field of play"?
 
What's screwier, NFL rulebook or the US tax code?

 

[Ed Hillel]

A player may not bat or punch:

(a) A loose ball (in field of play) toward his opponent’s goal line or in any direction in either end zone.

http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/useofhands

 

[Ed Hillel]

He batted it toward his own side of the field its fine.

Endzone

 

[k-factory]

 
This rule may change next year. 
 
If the ball goes out of bounds anywhere other than the end zone, the offense gets to keep the ball. It's silly that defense gets it if ball goes out of bounds in the end zone. 

 
I don't really have a problem with that rule. Higher stakes in the redzone. Plus out of bounds in the endzone is generally a fumble forward -  as opposed to a fumble on either side of the field of play. A fumble forward in those situations is going to get recovered by some team.

 

[kelpapa]

The difference is that it was not a loose ball.
Edit. You are talking about Wright. Never mind.

 

[catomatic]

The one replay I saw suggested it was possible the ball broke the plane of the end zone—was that just a bad angle?

 

[Section15Box113]

I think the "or in any direction in either end zone" is pretty clear.
 
Of course, no one has mentioned it on the broadcast or postgame to this point.

 

[Section15Box113]

Shouldn't there have been an automatic booth review?
 
Was there?

 

[amarshal2]

The one replay I saw suggested it was possible the ball broke the plane of the end zone—was that just a bad angle?

bad angle.

 

[Ed Hillel]

I love how the rulebook states it's illegal to "bat" a football from an opponent's hand. That's how half the fumbles are caused.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

I think the "or in any direction in either end zone" is pretty clear.
 
Of course, no one has mentioned it on the broadcast or postgame to this point.

 
It may nary get a mention in a Florio post, because Lions. 

 

[shawnrbu]

I remember the Dolphins got called for illegal batting on a Brady strip sack fumble last year in Foxboro that awarded the ball back to the Pats.
 
Did Detroit get hosed?

 

[Senator Donut]

Shouldn't there have been an automatic booth review?
 
Was there?

Is illegal batting reviewable?

 

[Bergs]

Is illegal batting reviewable?

Turnovers are...

 

[Senator Donut]

Turnovers are...

Is anyone here arguing it wasn't a fumble?

 

[riboflav]

ESPN dealing with it now