Week 15 - Yet Another One at Heinz

Stu Nahan

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Not coming here to bang some Brady sucks drum and blame him. Their gameplan and execution were putrid today. So many dumb penalties and so many big drops killed the offense. That said, his last three throws were terrible and it does matter. I think he would say the same himself.
 

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Not coming here to bang some Brady sucks drum and blame him. Their gameplan and execution were putrid today. So many dumb penalties and so many big drops killed the offense. That said, his last three throws were terrible and it does matter. I think he would say the same himself.
I agree those throws were not great, but it is imperative for the offensive line not to commit dumb penalties once TB12 drive them down to the 10 yard line.
 

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Biggest problem with the last 3 passes is they all went for the end zone when PIT was stacking the EZ. Should have taken something underneath to give yourself a realistic shot even if it means you have one less play.
 

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Biggest problem with the last 3 passes is they all went for the end zone when PIT was stacking the EZ. Should have taken something underneath to give yourself a realistic shot even if it means you have one less play.
Yup. Time was not an issue. Make the pass. Playcalling was odd.

Some of the penalties were highly questionable and not evenly called. But putting up 10 vs this garbage d is bad.
 

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Have you watched Brees play outside a dome? What is amazing about Brady is all the stats he put up playing outside in the northeast. I'd love to see what Peyton and Brees stats look like if they didn't play 60+% of their games indoors.
The weather has been fine all year. Brady has just dropped off a bit, though his two primary weapons have as well.
 

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Seems like the offense has been worse with Rex back - the flow is messed up.

Speaking of the backs, it’s concerning that Sony Michel is not a factor in the passing game. I expected more from such a high pick.
 

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Yup. Time was not an issue. Make the pass. Playcalling was odd.

Some of the penalties were highly questionable and not evenly called. But putting up 10 vs this garbage d is bad.
Time was not an issue? There was 33 seconds on the clock when the 2nd down play started. If he throws a completion in the middle of the field, it takes about 7 seconds for the play to end. It takes another 15-20 to get everyone lined up and then run another play, which takes about 4-5 seconds at a minimum. Odds are you are running out of time after the third down play, a play in which you rushed and didn't even give Brady a chance to look at the defense. You guys would rather have them do that? That's crazy.

I think a play on 2nd down that went about 10-12 yards and got out of bounds would have been a decent call, but I don't think anyone ran that route and/or if they did, they were covered.
 

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The weather has been fine all year. Brady has just dropped off a bit, though his two primary weapons have as well.
I think his point was about Brees. Brees' career passer rating outside is 91.4. Indoors, it's 104.2. For comparison, today, Brady had a passer rating of 89.9. So if you think Brady had a bad game today, that's about average for Brees outside, and Brees ain't playing in even remotely bad weather outside usually. He's still playing in Tampa Bay, LA or other southern cities for the most part. That's why he's 2-8 against Denver in his career and 1-4 against Baltimore. It's also why he's like 6-0 at home in the playoffs and 1-6 on the road.

Fortunately for Brees, it looks like he'll be playing in a dome from start to finish in the playoffs.
 

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Time was not an issue? There was 33 seconds on the clock when the 2nd down play started. If he throws a completion in the middle of the field, it takes about 7 seconds for the play to end. It takes another 15-20 to get everyone lined up and then run another play, which takes about 4-5 seconds at a minimum. Odds are you are running out of time after the third down play, a play in which you rushed and didn't even give Brady a chance to look at the defense. You guys would rather have them do that? That's crazy.

I think a play on 2nd down that went about 10-12 yards and got out of bounds would have been a decent call, but I don't think anyone ran that route and/or if they did, they were covered.
Dotb i generally agree with you and always love the fire. 33 seconds from the 15 is ample time. As you even pointed out, hit out for 7 and get oob. 2 tosses into the end zone highly contested didnt make sense. Slants / ins are a huge part of the skillset, also use that.

Also gronk and gordon getting nothing until
The end basically is silly. Pregame was just showing gronk gashing them in the seam last year
 

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I have to say that I was pleasantly surprised that the defense held the Steelers to 17 points (20 if you count the missed FG). All that talent that they have on offense? Incredible. Brown, Smith-Schuster, Washington, Samuels, etc.

As someone else mentioned, I was disappointed that White wasn't more involved in the passing game.

We'll have to bear down to win the last two games of the season and then hope for the best in the playoffs.
 

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Not coming here to bang some Brady sucks drum and blame him. Their gameplan and execution were putrid today. So many dumb penalties and so many big drops killed the offense. That said, his last three throws were terrible and it does matter. I think he would say the same himself.
It was really the last four throws, as the second down throw (penalty on Mason) was also incomplete. Red zone efficiency for Brady this year has been terrible, as obviously highlighted by this game.
 

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It was really the last four throws, as the second down throw (penalty on Mason) was also incomplete. Red zone efficiency for Brady this year has been terrible, as obviously highlighted by this game.
Worth noting: it's not just Brady. There are 23 RBs who have 5+ carries within the 2-yard-line, and 20 of them have 3 or more TDs. Two of the three who don't are Patriots: White (2 for 5) and Michel (a miserable 2 for 9). Nothing is working and it gets worse the closer they get to the goal line.

(Brady has also been terrible close in, not trying to give him a pass here, but this is a team problem)
 

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I think his point was about Brees. Brees' career passer rating outside is 91.4. Indoors, it's 104.2. For comparison, today, Brady had a passer rating of 89.9. So if you think Brady had a bad game today, that's about average for Brees outside, and Brees ain't playing in even remotely bad weather outside usually. He's still playing in Tampa Bay, LA or other southern cities for the most part. That's why he's 2-8 against Denver in his career and 1-4 against Baltimore. It's also why he's like 6-0 at home in the playoffs and 1-6 on the road.

Fortunately for Brees, it looks like he'll be playing in a dome from start to finish in the playoffs.
It was, but usually the difference is outdoor QBs play in bad weather/windy games to offset the perfect conditions in a dome, and for this season, Brady has largely played in good conditions. Not perfect, but relatively very good.