WCQ 2022: Qualifiers for Qatar's Questionable Quagmire

Morgan's Magic Snowplow

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What did he do? The tweet is disabled. Let me guess … the patented back into a defender jumping for the ball?
Just an Oscar worthy dive. The deleted tweet had another angle showing more clearly that the defender didn’t come close to touching him. The reaction of the other players was also great. Literally nobody on England even tried to appeal for a pen, they all just looked at Kane like wtf dude?

View: https://twitter.com/danlewis1999/status/1536807706526470145?s=21&t=uuajnQleoHN03lBdLkqKKQ
 

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Just an Oscar worthy dive. The deleted tweet had another angle showing more clearly that the defender didn’t come close to touching him. The reaction of the other players was also great. Literally nobody on England even tried to appeal for a pen, they all just looked at Kane like wtf dude?

View: https://twitter.com/danlewis1999/status/1536807706526470145?s=21&t=uuajnQleoHN03lBdLkqKKQ
Not saying he's heroic or anything, but he felt contact (presumably inside the box) and went down. Plenty of managers tell players to do that, and even though it's ultimately up to the player whether to do so (just ask Charlie Conway!), the possibility of getting a pen there is valuable. All that said, I don't know what the game state was at that point and I don't know whether Kane would've had a better opportunity had he kept his feet--and those are both relevant.
 

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I didn’t see any contact, although maybe he anticipated it would come.
Yeah, I don't think there was any contact at all. The other tweet I posted earlier (which I guess got taken down) was pretty clear.

I mainly think its funny he apparently did it when they were already 3-0 down playing with 10 men in a match nobody really cares about.
 

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I am not unhappy that the US's toughest group stage opponent appears to be in a pretty deep funk. Hope it continues into November.

World cup cycle number two is about the right time for the wheels to come off with an international manager, if US cycles are anything to go by as a comparison.
France and Germany fans would agree. France isn’t looking like a team arguably more talented than the winners four years ago. Germany had a slow start to qualifying before moving on from Lowe and righting the ship. Teams just need a new voice or ideas.

Hopefully US soccer is taking note.
 

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A guy I know says that he is being quoted prices from $400-700 for tickets to not-very-in-demand group stage games (he wants to see Morocco) and that hotels are so expensive in Qatar that it would be cheaper for him to stay in Dubai and just fly in and out of Qatar on gamedays.

I hate this World Cup.
 

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A guy I know says that he is being quoted prices from $400-700 for tickets to not-very-in-demand group stage games (he wants to see Morocco) and that hotels are so expensive in Qatar that it would be cheaper for him to stay in Dubai and just fly in and out of Qatar on gamedays.

I hate this World Cup.
Maybe a lot of people end up making the trip, but I can't imagine this World Cup having anything close to the same atmosphere that a typical big international tournament has. I don't know if you will see anywhere close to the amount of traveling fans you would normally see at one of these events. Everything about this World Cup is a tragedy, and I feel bad for the players, many of whom will only ever get this one chance to play in the World Cup, and it will be tainted by all this FIFA greed.
 

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Maybe a lot of people end up making the trip, but I can't imagine this World Cup having anything close to the same atmosphere that a typical big international tournament has. I don't know if you will see anywhere close to the amount of traveling fans you would normally see at one of these events. Everything about this World Cup is a tragedy, and I feel bad for the players, many of whom will only ever get this one chance to play in the World Cup, and it will be tainted by all this FIFA greed.
Agree completely. I think it will be a very crap atmosphere and the football will also likely be terrible, especially in the group stage, because the players will be exhausted and the teams will have far less time to train together compared to a normal World Cup.
 

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On the TSS podcast, they pointed out that Russia is banned by FIFA from this WC, but also that Russia hosted the last WC. Not a good look, not that anyone at FIFA actually cares as long as the Bitcoins keep rolling in.
 

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Maybe a lot of people end up making the trip, but I can't imagine this World Cup having anything close to the same atmosphere that a typical big international tournament has. I don't know if you will see anywhere close to the amount of traveling fans you would normally see at one of these events. Everything about this World Cup is a tragedy, and I feel bad for the players, many of whom will only ever get this one chance to play in the World Cup, and it will be tainted by all this FIFA greed.
The one upside in terms of atmosphere is that the tournament is geographically concentrated. Rather than having fans from all of the countries spread out across 10-15 cities, basically everyone will be in Doha, which would be pretty cool if a) there were actual affordable infrastructure/facilities for all those people, and b) what infrastructure exists had not been built by slave labor.
 

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Maybe a lot of people end up making the trip, but I can't imagine this World Cup having anything close to the same atmosphere that a typical big international tournament has. I don't know if you will see anywhere close to the amount of traveling fans you would normally see at one of these events. Everything about this World Cup is a tragedy, and I feel bad for the players, many of whom will only ever get this one chance to play in the World Cup, and it will be tainted by all this FIFA greed.
Anecdotal and only one data point, but I’ve been at every US World Cup match since Italy in ‘06, and wanted to keep that streak going indefinitely. But Qatar is a no.
 

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The players are planning to do something at the World Cup (https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/englands-kane-discusses-qatar-stance-with-dane-eriksen-frances-lloris-2022-06-14/). I feel like our wallet impact is minimal in the greater scheme of what's going on, but it's all we have. I have grand thoughts about canceling my TV plan for the duration of the World Cup, but I'm sure I'll prove to be too weak. I stopped purchasing Adidas equipment, but they're the only sponsor I use.

If there is an impactful movement we can join as fans, I'll definitely participate.
 

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A guy I know says that he is being quoted prices from $400-700 for tickets to not-very-in-demand group stage games (he wants to see Morocco) and that hotels are so expensive in Qatar that it would be cheaper for him to stay in Dubai and just fly in and out of Qatar on gamedays.

I hate this World Cup.
We got tickets to 5 games, but will only be going to 3, in large part because the cost of accommodations is so rapacious. I’ve had such a good time at the last two WCs I’ve been to, but there definitely is a lot working against this one.

We are actually staying in Kuwait (I tried to convince my wife to do Baghdad, but I am already pushing it) the night before the first game we are going to because we couldn’t get a room for that night (at least without converting our reservation to a full-board one on the cruise ship we are staying on).

One of the games we aren’t going to go to is Morocco and Canada. I’ve got two tickets for that and also Ecuador-Senegal that we aren’t going to use. Happy to work something out with your friend for the Morocco game (or both games) if he’s interested. Not trying to make extra money on the tickets, just want to cover our costs. They’re category 2 seats.
 

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We got tickets to 5 games, but will only be going to 3, in large part because the cost of accommodations is so rapacious. I’ve had such a good time at the last two WCs I’ve been to, but there definitely is a lot working against this one.

We are actually staying in Kuwait (I tried to convince my wife to do Baghdad, but I am already pushing it) the night before the first game we are going to because we couldn’t get a room for that night (at least without converting our reservation to a full-board one on the cruise ship we are staying on).

One of the games we aren’t going to go to is Morocco and Canada. I’ve got two tickets for that and also Ecuador-Senegal that we aren’t going to use. Happy to work something out with your friend for the Morocco game (or both games) if he’s interested. Not trying to make extra money on the tickets, just want to cover our costs. They’re category 2 seats.
I'm sure you guys will have a great time regardless! Despite my shit talking about this World Cup, I'm jealous.

And thanks for the offer about the tickets. I'll reach out to this guy I know and see if he is interested. It seemed like he was pretty far down the line of making a different arrangement so probably it won't make sense, but I'll check.