WCQ 2022: Qualifiers for Qatar's Questionable Quagmire

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Canada edges Costa Rica 1-0 … not a great game but they got the job done. Davies looked to be trying a little too hard in front of his home town crowd in Edmonton. Jonathan David got the goal after the CR keeper spilled a corner. Tajon Buchanan nearly scored the goal of the year with an incredibly athletic bicycle kick only to see it go off the underside of the bar.
 

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Canada edges Costa Rica 1-0 … not a great game but they got the job done. Davies looked to be trying a little too hard in front of his home town crowd in Edmonton. Jonathan David got the goal after the CR keeper spilled a corner. Tajon Buchanan nearly scored the goal of the year with an incredibly athletic bicycle kick only to see it go off the underside of the bar.
Rats, that would have been legendary. Edmonton should be nice and toasty for El Tri on Tuesday night.
View: https://twitter.com/sportsnet/status/1459361282352680961
 

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Netherlands threatening to make a hash of qualifying. They blew a 2 goal lead which would’ve clinched qualifying for them, but now there is a scenario in which they miss out completely.
 

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It’s going to be roughly 16 degrees at kickoff. Not celsius. LOL enjoy that El Tri.
Canada’s emergence as a WCQ- level side in CONCACAF creates a flavorful flip side to the long travel as HFA and the “let’s schedule games at 2pm in the brutal heat” of Honduras & co. I love it.

Why stop at Edmonton though? Yellowknife must be lovely this time of year
 

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Scotland are through the play offs after their win in Moldova. If we get a point at home to Denmark we would be seeded, (and get a home tie,) for the first knock out match, which would be huge.
 

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Renato Sánchez scores 2 minutes in to give the Portuguese the lead while in Seville the Spanish fling themselves to the floor clutching body parts at every opportunity while throwing their hands up with incredulity at every call that goes against them.

I recognize every country does this to some degree, but few with the fervor of the Spaniards.
 

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Renato Sánchez scores 2 minutes in to give the Portuguese the lead while in Seville the Spanish fling themselves to the floor clutching body parts at every opportunity while throwing their hands up with incredulity at every call that goes against them.

I recognize every country does this to some degree, but few with the fervor of the Spaniards.
I'm watching the Pats but Sweden have had a lot of success against Spain in the last few seasons despite conceding a ton of possession. Sweden really screwed up by losing to Georgia that now they have to win this game, which might change their approach.
 

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It’s more or less the same approach although I’d call it more of a mid block than a low block. Credit to Spain they’re trying to attack instead of just dicking about.

Tadic just tied it up in the other game of note.
 

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Fernando Santos is wasting one of the better generations of Portuguese talent. Really frustrating to follow this NT. He’s had them playing 523 this half and there’s absolutely no purpose to the attack. The goal had been coming
 

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that home tie would be huge
Actually, Wales 5-1 victory scuppers our hopes somewhat. If Belgium beat Wales, then a draw for Scotland would do it. Otherwise we need to beat Denmark and hope Wales don't win. Wales are ahead of us on goals scored and we find goals hard to come by. Hungary beating Poland also works but is unlikely and we'd still need to get something aganst Denmark who are yet to drop a point in the group.

I can see us getting drawn away to Portugal.
 

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England can clinch qualification today if they can just manage to get past San Marino.
 

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Updated table going into Tuesday's matches (Team, Points, GD):

1. Brazil, 34, +23
2. Argentina, 28, +14
3. Ecuador, 20, +8
4. Chile, 16, +1
5. Colombia, 16, -1
6. Uruguay, 16, -4
7. Peru, 14, -6
8. Paraguay, 12, -9
9. Bolivia, 12, -11
10. Venezuela, 7, -15

From a previous post:

Uruguay have to be a bit concerned about their position. They've already played Brazil twice which explains this some, but they still have a match against Argentina. TBF, Ecuador and Colombia still have matches against Argentina AND Brazil remaining. Nevertheless, this is a much more talented team than Ecuador and Colombia. They drew against Colombia, were a bit unlucky not to take a lead against Argentina before crumbling, and got thrashed by Brazil (N.B. I didn't see this match yesterday). Their remaining schedule includes the bottom 5 teams in the current table, so they'll be fine but I imagine they will want to get lots of wins and cement their quality to build momentum going into the summer winter for the WC.

Chile and Bolivia each won 2, and lost 1, with Chile losing 2-0 @Peru and Bolivia losing @Ecuador. Bolivia will be lucky to stay competitive, but it will be fun to see if Chile can catch one of Ecuador/Colombia/Uruguay.

Paraguay dropped 6 points to Chile and Bolivia, likely ending their chances. Peru still has a chance after winning their most important match of the break over Chile before losing @Bolivia and @Argentina
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Ecuador took another 3 points off of Venezuela and now are looking real frisky to take a qualifying spot. Their match vs. Chile on Tuesday is huge for both sides. Chile meanwhile got a road win @Paraguay and have now surged into a dogfight for a spot. This match has draw written all over it, as a win spells real trouble for the loser.

Colombia lost 1-0 to Brazil, but will certainly be looking for 3 points against Paraguay to put the pressure on the other sides fight for those 3-5 spots.

Uruguay thoroughly outplayed Argentina but still came out on the wrong end of a 1-0 loss. Angel Di Maria hit a quick and sublime curler to the far post to beat Muslera and Emi Martinez stood tall yet again to keep their Guarani cousins off the score sheet. Big result for Argentina as Messi didn't start but the team still held it together against good opposition and earned a result. Uruguay have to beat Bolivia to stay in this race.

This is Peru's window to climb and they started said climb coming off a nice home 3-0 win over Bolivia. They'll need 3 points off Venezuela to stay in it.

Argentina-Brazil is also on Tuesday as a rescheduled match from that wild snafu during the last window. Although I love my Albiceleste and this team has answered the bell every time this past year, I think Brazil's desire to avenge their finals loss carries them in this one. Both teams are all but mathematically qualified.

I'm also comfortable declaring Paraguay, Bolivia, and Venezuela out of it.
 

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Looks like Switzerland will get the qualifying spot sending Italy to the playoffs
 

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Great win for Scotland. Bit nervy in the second half but played some decent football. Hope we get a good draw in the play offs. But at least we got the home tie.
 

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Dutch usually make a hash of qualifying. They had a false start against Turkey and now need a point against Norway. Game will be played in an empty stadium because of new COVID restrictions.
 

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2-0 up its done :). Now all that is left that the venue is changed to anywhere else tbh.
 
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What a shame that Argentina-Brazil isn't on tv here in the U.S. Apparently it's only available on Fubo.

@Zososoxfan any idea why this match is being played in San Juan, and not somewhere with a bigger stadium?
 

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What a shame that Argentina-Brazil isn't on tv here in the U.S. Apparently it's only available on Fubo.

@Zososoxfan any idea why this match is being played in San Juan, and not somewhere with a bigger stadium?
Some quick Google-Fu reveals that San Juan is AFA's president (and surely mafioso) Claudio Tapia's stomping grounds. IOW, corrupt people lining their pockets per usual.

Neymar is out tonight. That's immensely helpful for Argentina.
 

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POSITION COUNTRY POINTS GOAL DIFFERENTIAL
1. Brazil 35 +23
2. Argentina 29 +14
3. Ecuador 23 +10
4. Colombia 17 -1
5. Peru 17 -5
6. Chile 16 -1
7. Uruguay 16 -7
8. Bolivia 15 -8
9. Paraguay 13 -9
10. Venezuela 7 -16


Yesterday's results:
  • Bolivia beat Uruguay 3-0 at altitude
  • Peru won at Venezuela 2-1
  • Colombia drew Paraguay at home 0-0
  • Argentina drew Brazil at home 0-0
  • Ecuador beat Chile 2-0 away
With 4 matchdays left (Argentina and Brazil have 1 less match played as FIFA/CONMEBOL deal with the aftermath of last window's farce), there are realistically 5 teams vying for 2 spots (1 auto, 1 playoff). Colombia, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, and Bolivia are all still in the chase, while Argentina and Brazil are officially qualified and Ecuador (!) has a large lead over the middle of the pack. We have to start putting real respect on Ecuador as they are beating teams up and down the table consistently and have the GD to back it up.

Colombia continued to get draws when they really need some wins to create separation (W-D-L of 3-8-3!). A home match against Paraguay has to equal 3 points. Peru is scraping and currently finds itself in the playoff spot, but they are significantly behind Chile on GD. Nevertheless, 2 wins in this window was immense for their chances. Chile had a decent international break as they gained 2 points on Colombia, but lost ground to Peru.

Bolivia's win over Uruguay vaults them back into contention, and sets Uruguay back substantially. Uruguay were unlucky to drop all 3 points to Argentina, but a 3-0 loss at Bolivia hurts. Regardless, they need to stop the freefall and get points at some point.

CONMEBOL has 2 more international windows of 2 matches each, so I don't think it's worth looking too closely at remaining schedules yet. That being said, Uruguay are done with Brazil and Argentina, and have matches remaining against Venezuela and Paraguay. OTOH, Chile have matches remaining against Argentina, Brazil, and @Bolivia.
 

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Some flavorful matchups from a geopolitical perspective but footballing wise the big deal is that one of Italy and Portugal will not go to Qatar.would seem impossible with a bigger field but here we are.
 

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Some flavorful matchups from a geopolitical perspective but footballing wise the big deal is that one of Italy and Portugal will not go to Qatar.would seem impossible with a bigger field but here we are.
Qatar is still 32. The 48 team version starts in 2026.
 

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Damn, if we beat Ukraine we might play Wales. I really really want Wales to go to the World Cup, but not like this.
I'll support them if they get through though.

This is not a bad draw for Scotland. Could have been a lot worse. We're playing some decent stuff at the moment. Got some very good players. McGinn has IMO proved himself to be international class. And with Robbo and Tierney on the left and NAthan Patterson on the right, we have some serious quality on the flanks. The dream is alive.
 
Damn, if we beat Ukraine we might play Wales. I really really want Wales to go to the World Cup, but not like this.
I'll support them if they get through though.

This is not a bad draw for Scotland. Could have been a lot worse. We're playing some decent stuff at the moment. Got some very good players. McGinn has IMO proved himself to be international class. And with Robbo and Tierney on the left and NAthan Patterson on the right, we have some serious quality on the flanks. The dream is alive.
Exactly my thoughts vis-a-vis Scotland... that's about as good as they could have hoped for.
 

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I've been laughing a bit at all the stories declaring "only one of Italy and Portugal will be at the World Cup". I mean, I know it's not likely, but there's a non-zero chance that neither one makes it
 

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Exactly my thoughts vis-a-vis Scotland... that's about as good as they could have hoped for.
I fancy Wales to beat Austria in Cardiff, so if we can get past Ukraine, with a full house at Hampden behind the players...Wales at Cardiff is as good an away tie as it gets.

Hard not to count the chickens at this point.

It's the hope that kills ye.