Verlander undergoes successful core muscle repair surgery

[ThePrideofShiner]

Verlander hurt himself in an offseason workout and underwent surgery Thursday, though is expected to be back in time for Spring Training.
 
I've never heard of this type of surgery. I wonder what the long term effects will be.
 
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/24403691/verlander-expected-to-ready-for-spring-training-following-core-muscle-surgery

 

[ifmanis5]

Let's go live to him now in the dugout for a few more 'Atta boys while his team loses in the Postseason again.

 

[FelixMantilla]

Tigers only owe him $160m over the next six years.

 

[Hoplite]

Tigers only owe him $160m over the next six years.

 
I'm always slightly entertained when a player signs a huge contract and then immediately starts to decline.
 
2011 – 3.12 xFIP, 2.99 SIERA, 95 mph fastball
2012 – 3.31 xFIP, 3.26 SIERA, 94.7 mph fastball
2013 – 3.67 xFIP, 3.69 SIERA, 94 mph fastball

 

[JGray38]

That sounds like a new term for a regular old hernia. If that's the case he will most likely be fine within 6-8 weeks.

 

[mt8thsw9th]

I'm not a scientician, but I'm assuming the core is similar to what Tony Stark had implanted to become Iron Man. Good news for the Tigers if that is the case.

 

[radsoxfan]

That sounds like a new term for a regular old hernia. If that's the case he will most likely be fine within 6-8 weeks.

 
Sounds like he had sports hernia surgery.  Different than a regular old hernia, though recovery timetable is similar.
 
But he still should be fine, not a big deal in the offseason.

 

[AbbyNoho]

 
I'm always slightly entertained when a player signs a huge contract and then immediately starts to decline.
 
2011 – 3.12 xFIP, 2.99 SIERA, 95 mph fastball
2012 – 3.31 xFIP, 3.26 SIERA, 94.7 mph fastball
2013 – 3.67 xFIP, 3.69 SIERA, 94 mph fastball

That's still pretty damn good.

 

[Hoplite]

That's still pretty damn good.

 
It's Derek Holland good, not $26 million a year good.

 

[inoffensiv philosophy]

I'm not a scientician, but I'm assuming the core is similar to what Tony Stark had implanted to become Iron Man. Good news for the Tigers if that is the case.

Any idea if it was his back core or his front core?

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

 
It's Derek Holland good, not $26 million a year good.

 
All pitchers decline over time. Verlander's peak was so high that he could slowly decline for years and still be an excellent pitcher.
 
Yes, he's on a three year streak of lower results, and sure I'd probably be a bit concerned about it if I were the Tigers. Maybe manage his workload a bit more, he's thrown a ton of innings over the past three years. But he's still an excellent pitcher.

 

[Snodgrass'Muff]

 
All pitchers decline over time. Verlander's peak was so high that he could slowly decline for years and still be an excellent pitcher.
 
Yes, he's on a three year streak of lower results, and sure I'd probably be a bit concerned about it if I were the Tigers. Maybe manage his workload a bit more, he's thrown a ton of innings over the past three years. But he's still an excellent pitcher.

 
You are correct.  He's still really fucking good.  Last year in his "down" year he struck out nearly a batter an inning, had a 3.28 FIP and a 3.67 xFIP.  That was good for 13th in k/9, 21st in FIP and 37th in xFIP.  There aren't many teams he wouldn't be the best pitcher for.  The Tigers happen to be one of those teams, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still one of the best pitchers in the game.
 
His problem last year was his bb/9 rising to 3.09 which was only the 62nd lowest mark among qualified starters.  His velocity also dropped about 1 mph from 2012 but he's still one of the hardest throwers in the majors.

 

[Hoplite]

 
You are correct.  He's still really fucking good.  Last year in his "down" year he struck out nearly a batter an inning, had a 3.28 FIP and a 3.67 xFIP.  That was good for 13th in k/9, 21st in FIP and 37th in xFIP.  There aren't many teams he wouldn't be the best pitcher for.  The Tigers happen to be one of those teams, but that doesn't change the fact that he's still one of the best pitchers in the game.
 
His problem last year was his bb/9 rising to 3.09 which was only the 62nd lowest mark among qualified starters.  His velocity also dropped about 1 mph from 2012 but he's still one of the hardest throwers in the majors.

 
I guess it all depends on whether you see it as a "down year" or the beginning of his decline. He was 37th and 50th among pitchers in xFIP and SIERA respectively, both of which would make him a #2. And whether you like those metrics or not they remain the most accurate pitching metrics when it comes to predicting future performance. Add in the drop in velocity and his new injury, and I'm more likely to believe that it's the beginning of his decline.