USMNT Summer 2023: Memo's Mirror Gets Sharp

Jed Zeppelin

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It’s a long time and a long way from home for any Euro manager. If you took our squad and wider pool and put it in like Switzerland I’m sure it would be a different story. Hard for me to read too much into this kind of narrative on its face with that in mind.

Edit: Obviously, the federation’s preferences and oddities weigh heavily too, but I‘d guess there are a lot of guys ostensibly in the candidate pool who prefer not to move across the pond (this isn’t even about the Chicago residency thing—it’s still a long way to New York or wherever) for so long.
 
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What I struggle with is, what kind of profile includes both Gregg and Zidane but not Lopetegui or some of the other available names? Is it the haircut???
 

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It always felt like the Zizou stuff was leaked to show that the US was trying to hire the cream of the crop. Everyone knows he’ll only manage France though, so it felt like it was just for show. Crocker hadn’t even been hired yet when the US “approached” Zidane.

GGG, Marsch, Henry (rumored), and Vieira (rumored) all have more of a history with soccer in the US and MLS.

Lopetegui was a GK and they’re known to be a different breed, so maybe something in the personality profile stood out. He’s also currently employed so perhaps US Soccer didn’t want to deal with that.
 

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Even if they are not, the last cycle strongly implies she was not any particular plus in the job, so she might get gone regardless.
 

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Markgraf led the process to hire Vlatko, which was a decision criticized at the time for being an underwhelming choice by observers. But he was a favorite of many NWSL players, who lobbied Markgraf on his behalf.

Based on what we’ve heard about Crocker’s process on the men’s side, safe to say he has a vision very different than Markgraf’s…even if Crocker’s process has led to an underwhelming men’s hire…
 
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In case you were wondering if USMNT was going to continue to run like a clownshow youth travel team...
View: https://twitter.com/USMNT/status/1692576086620618910?t=TgBVRs-kV_Z269nHL46b3Q&s=19


Somehow a list of guys playing this week includes a bunch of scrubs, but not Bundesliga starter and accomplished WC vet John Brooks.... Likely because Berhalter has personal issues with him
Yep...it's pretty amazing how he just iced out a perennial Bundesliga CB. Yes he's slow, yes hes a bit on the older side but just utterly iced and the dance Jay has tried to do wiggle back in only to be marginalized is tough to watch when Aaron Long is an important pool player.
 

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Someday we'll find out what the story is, and I hope it's something epic. It better be, to have put up with some of our CB play the last cycle
 

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Yep...it's pretty amazing how he just iced out a perennial Bundesliga CB. Yes he's slow, yes hes a bit on the older side but just utterly iced and the dance Jay has tried to do wiggle back in only to be marginalized is tough to watch when Aaron Long is an important pool player.
Honestly, is it really amazing? Brooks has a reputation as a difficult player who has had poor relationships with club managers as well as Berhalter. Nobody knows the story behind the scenes, but we're always given nonsense explanations in press conferences because it appears to be the sort of thing that won't be publicly aired at a press conference.

It's possible that Berhalter's exclusion of Brooks is the result of a fit of pique that harms the team, but it's also possible that icing out Brooks was a sensible decision that had more benefits than drawbacks. How can we really know? This is hardly the first time in the history of club or international soccer that such a thing has occurred.


Also, Aaron Long hasn't been more than a depth piece since 2019. I know this sounds crazy given how people obsess about him, but it's true! He started the Nations League group stage games in late 2019, then started some friendlies in late 2020 / early 2021 in the COVID era when we were doing the split-squad MLS-based teams and Europe-based teams to limit travel.

Then he blew his Achilles in spring 2021. Since then, he got sub minutes in two WCQ, started the Nations League games against Grenada and El Salvador when we left some Euro-based guys home, and started two out of five games at a B-team Gold Cup. At the World Cup, he was the unused fourth CB, while Richards and Robinson out hurt, so that put him 6th on the depth chart at best during that moment in time.

Aaron Long — he's not that good and he hasn't looked useful for the USMNT for quite some time! But if not for injuries and scheduling lots of stuff where we trotted out a B-squad, I think he'd have played his last NT game a while ago. I think there's a good chance he's played his last game for the US. And I also think his inclusion in stuff over the last however many months hasn't actually mattered very much even though he's a boring/annoying call up.
 

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Our weirdo manager needs professional help to prep him for a conversation with a 20 year old but will that stop him from talking about it to Vanity Fair? Surely not!
 

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Such an unforced error by USSF to hire this guy again.
Agree completely. That interview irritated me so much. Has called nearly everyone but hasn’t done the most important thing he needed to do which was address the situation. But could do an interview about it. Idiotic and absolutely absurd they went back to this well.
 

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It's just baffling that, having gotten himself into trouble by talking publicly about his dealings with Reyna, one of his first acts upon returning was to talk publicly about his dealings with Reyna. If he can't even change that, how is going to reconsider the 4-3-3?
 

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Happy to see Callender get a call up. But I wouldn’t mind seeing Slonina in there instead of Horvath. With Turner locked in as #1, bringing the kids along behind him so that they’re ready if needed in 2026.
 

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Seems like a pretty reasonable roster. A bit heavy with random/semi-random kids, but in a world where the 2024 Olympics exist that makes sense to me. Enough of the first team that guys can actually be tested in the real team setup instead of doing a "do any players on this disjointed B team look good" run.
 

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Roster has dropped for the upcoming September friendlies.

https://x.com/11yanks/status/1696903073313271971?s=46&t=XvGOrrWIyL-5CHVVL_0JYQ

Surprise inclusion for me is Kristoffer Lund. Not sure about bringing in Chremaschi this early but no Long and co.
It sucks for DeJuan Jones for Lund to parachute in out of nowhere as backup left back. Not event TB had mentioned him as a dual national possibility. Palermo are a City Financial Group Club, so I assume they'll be be back in Serie A next year. All in all, another good development for the USMNT.
 

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The USSF release said that Lund just filed his one-time switch, which AFAIK was kept under wraps and not reported in the media. I don't think this necessarily rules out Jones, though. An upwardly mobile young LB is always interesting, but it's rather common for these sorts of lower-tier dual nats who aren't in the big five leagues to not work out at the USMNT level.

I was a little surprised to see Cardoso after he was stretchered off last weekend.

Cremaschi is a good prospect, but he's being fast-tracked a bit because of the dual national recruitment war. He's already been in camps with Argentina U20 prior to qualifying for the last tournament, and spending his weekends dishing assists to Lionel Messi does not make it easier for the USMNT recruitment effort.
 

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This also doesn’t look like at 4-3-3 roster to me. Cardoso can be used as a 6 but as TB noted he was just carted off the field. Besides that, nobody really plays that role. Lots of dual pivot options though.
 

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The USSF release said that Lund just filed his one-time switch, which AFAIK was kept under wraps and not reported in the media. I don't think this necessarily rules out Jones, though. An upwardly mobile young LB is always interesting, but it's rather common for these sorts of lower-tier dual nats who aren't in the big five leagues to not work out at the USMNT level.
DeJuan Jones was ruled out by injury according to Gregg at his press conference, so my apologies to Berhalter. Others who were excluded include Adams, Reyna, CCV, Steffen, Booth, Zimmerman, Sean Johnson, Sargent, and EPB.

Please replace the words "DeJuan Jones" with "John Tolkin" in my previous post. ;)