UFC/MMA in 2016

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MMA hasn't evolved enough yet, and even when it does there are still going to be injuries in training. It's just too tough on the body.
That's kinda my point. It use to be that a guy pulling out was extremely rare. Now, you book a fight and have to line up plan B, C, and D incase plan A stubs his toe. Nothing's really changed in MMA. You train your standup (clinch, wall, boxing) and either wrestling or bjj and you get your cardio and strength training where you can. It's been this way since it evolved out the barbaric days of UFC 1 .
 

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It has evolved some, but not enough. Not a lot of guys are sparring hard 5 times every day anymore. So that's great, but gyms still have 20 guys all working on takedowns and defense at the same time. Good luck to everyone's MCLs and ankles. More money, experience, and research will help with time, but there are always going to be injuries in training. I'd much rather pull out of a fight than lose one btw.
 

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OSP it is. Sort of an ok fight, but it's probably too soon for OSP. He does show some crazy flashes though. Wonder if Rumble turned it down.
 

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I think the Derrick Lewis- Roy Nelson fight at UFC 200 is going to be an awesome 3 minutes of large men fighting. Its going to be weird to see a fight where Roy's JJ is his key advantage since the Black Beast might have even more dangerous one punch power than he does.
 

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Two testing notes. Machida failed an out-of-competition test, his match against Hendo is completely scrapped. He said he knew the substance was banned in-competition but didn't know that the substance was banned in out-of-competition testing. Lol

Yoel Ramiro won his appeal so his ban is 6 months instead of longer. His case is weird, he tested positive in January, his camp claimed a supliment was contaminated. USADA tested his supply and WADA tested samples at the factory, and wouldn't you know both tests showd it actually contained a banned substance not featured on the label. Since his post fight test was clear, his win against Jacare in december stays valid. His ban is backdated to January so he can fight as soon as July
 
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Glover obliterated Evans last night. I love Rashad but he looked all out of sorts

Nurmo looked good against a game but clearly overmatched opponent.

Dodson got a 47 second TKO in his first fight back up at 135. If his power holds up at 135, his speed/power combo is kind of insane at that class. He said he was cutting down from 160(!) to 125 so he'll stay at 135. 5'3, 160, he must be a house between fights
 
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Smart. Get out with his rep intact and never take any more damage or l's so he's still marketable without ever having to beat anyone of note. Well, ok, that Aldo fight but couldve been fluky.
 

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White went on ESPN and says that McGregor refused to break camp in Iceland and do the press conference in Vegas. He's still under contract with UFC, so it's now a waiting game as to what he does next.
 

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He was at the fight where Carvalho died and was celebrating when he lost, not knowing how badly he was hurt. Been taking some grief for it in the Irish press. Tweeted about how awful a situation it was.

EDIT: Not saying that's it, by any stretch. But it's a thing.
 
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I've seen that narrative from a few people but I'm not sure that is a factor. A few days ago he tweeted or posted on Instagram something how he's hungry as ever while training.

I think the likely scenario is he thought he was bigger than the UFC, told Dana to fuck off with press commitments, then got nervous about his money once he called White's bluff and White pulled him from 200. Retiring is the only way he won't get sued for breach.
 

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Any idea how much money he's made? He only had the three big fights, right - Mendes, Aldo and Diaz and the ufc isn't know for huge paydays. Plus, I always see him in fancy cars with fancy watches. Seems like he'll need a cash supply soon.
 

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The base pay and fight bonus get reported to the athletic commissions. For his last fight, it was one million and 90K in fight bonus (50K for fight of the night and 40K from Reebok); but he's big enough of a star that he also gets a pay per view bonus. For both Aldo and Diaz, that's been reported in the range of 8-10 million.
 

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Any idea how much money he's made? He only had the three big fights, right - Mendes, Aldo and Diaz and the ufc isn't know for huge paydays. Plus, I always see him in fancy cars with fancy watches. Seems like he'll need a cash supply soon.
Likely between 20-30 million from the UFC, plus whatever else he does outside the octagon. Not sure what that would be though, he's pretty fight focused. I don't think he owns all the cars he poses with FWIW.

I think this is a money play, and I don't think it will be the last one. He's a bit like prime Revis/Garnett. Always pushing the money, the big bet with Dana, stadiums in Ireland. I won't be surprised to see a quick acting or wrestling payday. His biggest problem is after getting Stockton dick-slapped he doesn't have the leverage he used to.
 

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Rich had an interesting and plausible theory on T&R this morning that Dana is all about MSG now over UFC 200 for November and this was a ploy to get McGregor out of 200 where he might lose to Diaz again and save him for MSG as co headliner with Rhonda Rousey.
 

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Ok, I like/buy that take. McGregor is definitely motivated by money and Dana is a dead ringer for Wilson Fisk.
 

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The base pay and fight bonus get reported to the athletic commissions. For his last fight, it was one million and 90K in fight bonus (50K for fight of the night and 40K from Reebok); but he's big enough of a star that he also gets a pay per view bonus. For both Aldo and Diaz, that's been reported in the range of 8-10 million.
I heard Ariel helwani on the radio today saying he renegotiated his deal with the ufc before the Aldo fight. He said he was in the eight figures for his last two fights.
 

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I guess he's back
I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
Nothing else was going through my mind.
It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a fuck morning show did not get me this life.
Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a fuck about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
I'm coming for my revenge here.
I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
But it was denied.
There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
And all with one tweet.
Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
I must isolate myself now.
I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
I can not dance for you this time.
It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
He came in with no shit to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
I'm doing what I need for me now.
It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
For the record also -
For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
I AM NOT RETIRED.
 

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I wasn't a fan early on, but damn, do I love McGregor. I know everything he shows the outside world is calculated, but that statement of his sounds pretty close to only slightly-varnished truth.

Great fighter. Awesome promoter.
 

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I liked him more before he boo hoo'ed that promotional efforts caused his loss. He decided to be a showman, it got him opportunities he probably wouldn't have had otherwise, and if he can't handle the travel or can't keep his focus, then he's not quite as good as he says he is. Either way, it's a bullshit move to take away from Diaz's victory.
 

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I figure many, if not most fighters, lie to themselves about why they lose. I don't think McGregor's statement takes much anything away from Diaz, but is more an ackowledgement that he didn't take Diaz seriously enough, that the move up in weight class is a bigger deal than he thought, and that he really needs to focus better to get where he needs to be.

He's simultaneously telling his fans that they can expect better while also promoting the fight while talking about not promoting the fight. The spotlight is clearly on him and the UFC right now.

He's still being the showman. Like I said, great fighter, awesome promoter.
 

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Bendo is fighting some Bellator champion with only one loss tonight. Bendo is the only Bellator guy I care about and this came up quickly on me.
 

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Never thought of this before, but with his mouth and his Irish heritage as a no-brainier character foundation, he'd be a star there...if he ever decides that he wants to stop taking punches to his noggin.

Isn't he way too small?
 

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He has natural charisma in spades but the problem is that he isn't huge enough to come across as a total badass that you would like to see portrayed for a guy with legit fighting skills. He won't be tossing guys around like Brock Lesnar does. With the right booking that wouldn't matter but WWE is often far away from the right booking.