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Let me start this post by saying, if you are a super casual MMA fan, or even if you have not watched any UFC events, but are at least open to combat sports (maybe you watched boxing once upon a time or people punching each other doesn't seem too hard to stomach), please get yourself somewhere to watch the upcoming UFC 182 event on January 3.
 
This is the epitome of what UFC is about. Two top athletes going into The Octagon to lay it all on the line against each other. Then afterwards, they might even be cordial to one another. Jon Jones, the best fighter on the planet is going up against Olympic wrestler-turned-undefeated MMA fighter Daniel Cormier. The fight should be epic. The build up has been incredible. The trash talk has been unparalleled.
 
Get yourself to a bar, a friend's house, whatever to watch this Pay-Per-View event to see if MMA is all it's hyped to be. Here's a sneak preview of what's in store:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uq8WBN7YDY [/youtube]
 
The PPV begins at 10PM Eastern, and the main event should commence around midnight.
 
That being said, let's take a look at what's in store for 2015 in MMA:
 
Despite the now-massive UFC roster (over 500 fighters!), there is still some talent outside the undisputed top promotion in MMA:
 
Up-and-coming Douglas Lima (Welterweight) fights for the Bellator Welterweight Championship in February at Bellator 134. This is a free event on SpikeTV on February 27. The 27-year-old has been absolutely on fire with vicious finishes in 10 of his last 11 victories. His only loss in the last 5+ years is at the hands of...
 
Ben Askren, the ONE FC Welterweight Champion who has had a number of verbal spats with UFC boss Dana White. Askren is undefeated (14-0), but has been outspoken about his contentedness of fighting outside of the UFC and still making some coin. For fight fans everywhere, let's hope they can eventually hash something out. The undefeated 170-pounder is probably one of the top 5 fighters at his weight class and is in his prime.
 
Over in WSOF, Rousimar Palhares finished former UFC No. 1 Contender Jon Fitch with an impressive kneebar. Everyone knows what's coming with Palhares (leg submission specialist), but it's still incredibly difficult to stop it. It will be hard for him to get back in the UFC given his tumultuous history of unsporting behavior, but if he keeps performing at a high level, we know there's no such thing as a bridge too far when it comes to the UFC because, well, money talks.
 
Justin Gaethje just turned 26 and defended his WSOF Lightweight belt for a second time against UFC vet Melvin Guillard. Gaethje was relatively untested before his latest scrap. The future is uncertain but bright for the undefeated fighter. We should see him in the UFC eventually.
 
Also in the WSOF, Nick Newell is a fighter who has garnered a lot of attention not just because of his impressive record, but for the fact that he fights with only one arm. He was born with a left arm that ends at his elbow. He may not be a UFC prospect, but he is must-see TV for inspirational aspects, and he did get a shot at the WSOF Lightweight title vs. Gaethje. I'm still astounded every time I watch him.
 
Cris "Cyborg" Justino has fought in the women's 145-lb division, and has yet to meet her match. She does have a checkered history as she has struggled with weight issues and a positive test for steroids. There were considerable rumors of her dropping to 135 lbs to fight Ronda Rousey in a superfight for the ages, but talk of that has fizzled recently, as Cyborg has been on the shelf for over a year.
 
I don't follow the lower classes as well, so maybe someone can speak better to those. On to the UFC.
 
The UFC held a record 46 events in 2014. It's been an absolute chore to keep track of it all. I consider myself a fairly hardcore fan, but the roster is so watered down at this point, I can't even begin to try to watch every event, let alone some of the crappy undercard fights. 2015 is kicking off with some really great fights off the heels of an exciting end to 2014, so this keeps me optimistic.
 
2014 saw the introduction of the women's strawweight division (115 lbs), with Carla Esparza defeating the athletic Rose Namajunas at the culmination of The Ultimate Fighter 20. Some good fights should emerge in this division, as it is quite deep. The personalities of the ladies at 115 should add to the intrigue.
 
The UFC has 45 events scheduled for 2015, including 13 PPVs. Things kick off with the aforementioned Jones-Cormier at UFC 182 on January 3. Another key fight to watch on the card is Donald Cerrone vs Myles Jury. I think Jury is a future champion in the stacked lightweight division.
 
Rising star (already star?) Conor McGregor fights at the TD Garden on January 18. His fights are must-see TV. He's one of those guys that backs up all his trash talk with impressive fights. He's one to watch. He's already won the hearts of his native Ireland, and is a polarizing figure in the States whose stock is going nowhere but up. He should challenge Jose Aldo for the featherweight title soon.
 
I won't mention every intriguing fight in this post, but Anderson Silva, the greatest UFC fighter in history returns from a devestating leg injury to fight the hated Nick Diaz, who always entertains. This is another one to watch at the end of January (UFC 183). Light Heavyweight Chris Weidman and Women's Bantamweight Ronda Rousey defends their titles in February at the Staples center at UFC 184.
 
The UFC will also be the home of CM Punk's MMA Debut (of WWE fame). That should get some casual fans who watch pro wrestling to tune in. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson will also be returning to the UFC this coming year. He's an exciting fighter.
 
Here's a layman's rankings of the men's divisions based on relative strength:
8. Flyweight (Demetrious Johnson is king.)
7. Bantamweight (no real interesting fights outside Faber-Dillashaw since Cruz got hurt again.)
6. Featherweight (Jose Aldo is a beast, Frankie Edgar is always exciting, McGregor and Swanson have championship potential.)
5. Middleweight (This division has never been that stacked, but with Weidman and Silva, it doesn't need to be to excite me.)
4. Heavyweight (Cain is truly class, but the heavyweight division still has lots of exciting potential matchups. Plus, who doesn't like to see guys punch REALLY hard?)
3. Light Heavyweight (the division is very top-heavy, but the guys at the top are extremely exciting: Jones, Cormier, Gustafsson, Johnson, Evans, Davis, Teixeira.)
2. Lightweight (Pettis, Nurmagomedov, dos Anjos, Jury, Melendez, Barboza, Thompson, Cerrone, Green, Alvarez, Nate Diaz, yowzahs!)
1. Welterweight (I think any of the top 8 could beat the other on any given day. That is incredible. Let's hope the UFC makes the right fights.)
 
2015 should be a great one for MMA. Here's to the new year and here's to Georges St. Pierre making a comeback from retirement!
 

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Jesus, that is one hell of an OP
 
As much as I love Palhares, he's the one guy who Dana legit fears being in the UFC, simply because he doesn't want his fighters to get some gruesome career-ending injury. Fitch is probably out a while after that last one. I wish Palhares would get his shit together; not letting go of subs is a total mindfuck for the guy. I know he had some kind of ghost-tap episode when he was younger, where he thought he felt a tap and let go and eventually lost the match. He would have to have a string of matches where he doesn't hold the sub to long to get even a whiff from Dana. 
 
The other big story this year is the antitrust lawsuit headed by Cung Le. Lawyers always say that you want a good guy to bring a suit, and Cung Le is a total class act. I'm interested in seeing how this goes. 
 

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I know it was disputed, but didn't Cung Le just fail a drug test?
Yes, there's questions around the chain of custody and the legitimacy of the outfit that performed the test as they were not WADA approved.  So Le definitely has an axe to grind with the UFC.
 
The best thing to look forward to in 2015 for MMA is some better health for the champions.  2014 saw
Cain injured for the entire year and will hopefully be back in May/June for the title fight with interim champ Werdum.
Jon Jones hasn't fought since April and following injury the fight with Cormier was pushed out from September of 14 to January of 15
Weidman fought once in 2014 and was injured before his fight with Vitor, pushing that fight back to February of 2015
Pettis was out for 15 months before beating Melendez in December, however, he may have broken his left hand in that fight and needs to be cleared by a doctor before resuming training
 
With 10 UFC divisions, there were only 16 title fights in 2014.  So here's to a more active 2015 for the top fighters.
 
The year starts fantastically with Jones/Cormier, The Boston card with McGregor/Siver and Alvarez/Henderson, Anthony Johnson/Gustaffson in Sweden, and Diaz/Silva.  Then in February you've got another 2 good fight night cards and Weidman/Belfort. 
 

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Salivating waiting for this Jones/Cormier fight.
How do all you prognosticators see this fight going? Who are you rooting for?
 
Jones is now -170 most places, while DC is +150. I bet a few units on Jones, and I think his reach will keep DC at bay for most of the fight, but my heart really wants to see Cormier knock Jones out. One, because Jones is a massive prick. Two, because the rematch will be incredible. And three, because it helps Anderson Silver keep "best-ever" status for now, and I love me some Anderson.
 
Above all, I want a memorable fight with some serious smack talk.
 
Jones (-175) over Cormier bet 200 to win 114
Jury (+160) over Cerrone bet 150 to win 240 (not locked in, conditional on parlay)
Tavares (+115) over Marquardt bet 100 to win 115
Horiguchi (-700) over Gaudinot bet 100 to win 14
Lombard (-700) over Burkman bet 100 to win 14
Dufresne (-170) over Reneau bet 250 to win 143
 
Parlay: Jury/Lombard/Horiguchi/Dufresne/Dunham bet 100 to win 531. If I'm winning that parlay, I'll hedge the Jury fight by taking Cerrone instead and guarantee myself a winning night.
 
I've been running fairly cold on MMA since the summer, after running red hot for 2+ years. Hopefully 182 kickstarts a good year!
 

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I don't think Jones is a prick, he's more of a douchbag. He's full of himself and full of what everyone tells him. Cormier seems like a real person. 
 
As for the fight, this match is all about Jones standup defense. The more the match is standing up, the more Jones has an advantage. Jones has to use his length, but Cormier is the strongest guy Jones has faced, and the best wrestler since Evans (and maybe better). That was a long time ago, and this is really a different matchup altogether compared to guys like Glover and Gustafson, I have a hard time figuring how Jones will approach it.
 
Maybe similar to Evans, but Cormier is slower but more powerfully built than Evans. I remember that fight, it went the distance but Evans couldn't do much, and frankly looked like he'd rather be anywhere but in that ring taking elbows from Jones. Cormier will assuredly prepare for the elbow barrage. 
 

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Agreed, I don't think Jones is a prick, I see him as trying to uphold a fake media personality as someone at some point told him to play the game and the sponsors would line up for him.  However, now that the Reebok sponsorship is official, I'd love to see Jones show more of his true colors (ie the back and forth with Cormier when he thought the cameras were off) and go full heel.  He should.  No matter how fake he is, I'm still a fan because he's incredible once he steps into the octagon. 
 
I see the fight with Cormier being similar to the Rashad fight.  I think he'll use his length and keep Cormier at distance just grinding out a UD.  I don't think he'll stick in the pocket too much as Cormier has heavy hands. 
 
I like all of Pxer's bets except for Jury.  I think Cerrone runs him over as he's really hitting his stride and his staying more active has led to him being sharper and more aggressive.  I don't think Jury is as dangerous a striker as Alvarez or Barboza and Cerrone looked great against both of them. 
 

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I think Jones will need to avoid the trap of trying to damage Cormier too much from the clinch. Jones has been successful at inflicting damage with elbows and knees fom the clinch, but that just opens up opportunities for Cormier to get inside and secure a takedown. Jones is athletic, but there's no one you want on top of you less than DC.
 
It will be interesting to see how strongly Jones does believe that he can take Cormier down. I think he can, but Greg Jackson is probably telling him it's not worth it unless he rocks DC or something. Strange things happen even to the best fighters when the door latches and adrenaline takes over.
 

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I like all of Pxer's bets except for Jury.  I think Cerrone runs him over as he's really hitting his stride and his staying more active has led to him being sharper and more aggressive.  I don't think Jury is as dangerous a striker as Alvarez or Barboza and Cerrone looked great against both of them. 
Cerrone is firing on all cylinders, and is in his physical prime, but Jury is just getting better at an incredible rate. Outside the cage, the buzz is really great, but I think the real area that gets overlooked is Jury's ability to avoid taking the big punch. Cerrone has a good chin, but can get caught up in the strike game and take too many shots. His striking defense doesn't compare to Jury's.
 
For Cerrone to win, he's going to have to land a barrage of quality shots throughout the fight without. I'm not sure Jury allows him to do that. Cerrone should be able to take Jury down, but Jury is a legit BJJ black belt. I don't think Cerrone is going to risk much on the ground with him.
 
I've said it before, but I think Jury is championship material in that new-breed mold with an all-around game built for MMA. Having a sick BJJ base is icing on the cake.
 

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Cerrone is firing on all cylinders, and is in his physical prime, but Jury is just getting better at an incredible rate. Outside the cage, the buzz is really great, but I think the real area that gets overlooked is Jury's ability to avoid taking the big punch. Cerrone has a good chin, but can get caught up in the strike game and take too many shots. His striking defense doesn't compare to Jury's.
 
For Cerrone to win, he's going to have to land a barrage of quality shots throughout the fight without. I'm not sure Jury allows him to do that. Cerrone should be able to take Jury down, but Jury is a legit BJJ black belt. I don't think Cerrone is going to risk much on the ground with him.
 
I've said it before, but I think Jury is championship material in that new-breed mold with an all-around game built for MMA. Having a sick BJJ base is icing on the cake.
 
I agree on Jury's game, but I think this fight is a year or so too early for him.  He's never fought anyone on the level of Cerrone, he hasn't fought anyone I'd rank as a top 10 fighter.  Cerrone is just going to be such a massive step up and has such an offensive arsenal that I think he'll wear Jury down and I could see this one being stopped by a knee or a liver kick. 
 
Cerrone doesn't handle pressure fighters well (or pressure fights for that matter), Diaz overwhelmed him with strikes and RDA smothered him on the ground.  Jury just hasn't shown that level of aggressiveness yet to make me feel like he's there.
 

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I agree on Jury's game, but I think this fight is a year or so too early for him.  He's never fought anyone on the level of Cerrone, he hasn't fought anyone I'd rank as a top 10 fighter.  Cerrone is just going to be such a massive step up and has such an offensive arsenal that I think he'll wear Jury down and I could see this one being stopped by a knee or a liver kick. 
 
Cerrone doesn't handle pressure fighters well (or pressure fights for that matter), Diaz overwhelmed him with strikes and RDA smothered him on the ground.  Jury just hasn't shown that level of aggressiveness yet to make me feel like he's there.
Valid. If Jury does win, he and dos Anjos should fight, while Nurmagomedov gets a crack at Pettis.
 
If Cerrone wins, Nurmagomedov/Cerrone & dos Anjos/Pettis should happen.
 
The UFC does dumb things in LW matchups, though.
 

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Great opening post.
 
I can't wait for Jones vs. Cormier.  Off the top of my head this has to be the shortest - both in height and reach - opponent Jones has faced and also the best wreslter. You would have to think Jones wants to stand up and snipe beyond DC's range and DC wants to wrestle. I think Jones is the better bet but it's a pretty good line.
 
 
Also, get ready
 
https://twitter.com/UFCONFOX/status/550785117883338753
 

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That would be spectacular -- McGregor v. Aldo in Ireland.
 
Assuming Aldo wins, would love to see him make the LW jump.
 

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Probably midnight Eastern. Could be earlier if the opening fights are quick finishes.
 

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I just flipped on FSN to see a sick spinning back fast from Felder. I think that was the last of the free prelims.
 

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'tis. Promos until the main card.
 
Good prelims, nothing too crazy, but showcased some great new talent.
 

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Nothing too crazy? How often do you see someone get knocked out by a spinning back fist?
 

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Nothing too crazy? How often do you see someone get knocked out by a spinning back fist?
 
3rd time, apparently. But, they land a good bit, even if they don't KO someone. The fight was solid, but unspectacular, prior to that.
 

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Nothing too crazy? How often do you see someone get knocked out by a spinning back fist?
Just about every Emanuel Newton fight in Bellator. I've never seen a fighter utilize as many spin attacks as Newton. Back on tangent though, Felder looked great in that fight, composed with great movement, I was impressed as he's imply dissected Castillo
 

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Burkman, apparently, can't be knocked out.
 
Lombard looked pretty good, though. Too bad he's 36.
 

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I had Jones taking round 3 but Cormier may have stolen it in the last 20 seconds
 

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So impressive that Jones beat Cormier at his own game. Now I'm just hoping Gus gets by Johnson because I really want to see Jones/Gus 2
 

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I might be more excited for the post-fight conference than I was for the fight.
 

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FightMetric has Jones outstriking DC in every round but the second (only an 18-16 lead for DC). He killed DC in significant strikes in the final two rounds, 27-7.
 

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I really liked the main event. I gained a lot of respect for two fighters I already thought were great. Momentum seemed to turn after Cormier was poked in the eye followed by Bones delivering a vicious body kick on the restart. While Jones looked tired between rounds, he showed great stamina during the 4th and 5th. Will be a fight I rewatch anytime FS1 is allowed to show it.
 

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I think Cormier took his best shots in round 2 but was gassed immediately. Jones' height advantage was too great to overcome when Cormier tried to take him down (he did once, but I was impressed at how quickly Jones popped up).  I really thought he had a shot at winning, but credit to Jones for being even more impressive than I thought he could.
 

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I was a bit disappointed by how gassed both fighters seemed by the end of round 2. Jones was amazing though. What an arsenal of kicks elbows and punches. Looked like he could do whatever he wanted in there.

DC reminds me a lot of James Toney, the good and the bad.