UFC 2020

[Zomp]

I rewatched the moment that Poirer said he checked the kick and Conor hurt his leg. I don’t think he checked it at all. He did point but it seemed more of a point of acknowledgment of the leg kicks.

I mean Poirer won the first round but in the second fight Conor won the first. Unlucky.

 

[djbayko]

I dont understand what is confusing about what I wrote. He was about to just plain lose, and decisively. That would have meant finit.

He now gets to play the medical stoppage angle...arguing "it wasnt decisive".

All you can say is he lost the first round decisively, but that's mostly solely because he made a dumb decision and put himself on the ground where he's at a distinct disadvantage.

 

[Zomp]

What was he thinking with that guillotine

 

[Myt1]

I dont understand what is confusing about what I wrote. He was about to just plain lose, and decisively. That would have meant finit.

He now gets to play the medical stoppage angle...arguing "it wasnt decisive".

It’s a five round fight. Have you not watched it before?

Jesus, this is fucking stupid.

 

[bsj]

All you can say is he lost the first round decisively, but that's mostly because he made a dumb decision and put himself on the ground where he's at a distinct disadvantage.

Yes. There was one round.

He that one round decisively.

 

[bsj]

It’s a five round fight. Have you not watched it before?

Jesus, this is fucking stupid.

You think after round 1 this fight was going 5 rounds?

 

[djbayko]

Yes. There was one round.

He that one round decisively.

So you think he's going to try 4 more guillotines if the leg didn't break? Look, I bet on Poirier, but your original post was hyperbole. You can't tell how the rest of the fight was going to go after that dumb decision. They're pretty evenly matched on their feet, and Conor has good takedown defense.

 

[Myt1]

What was he thinking with that guillotine

Any port in a storm. Even if it’s color by number.

He’s shit grappling. He was trying to hit a home run. Even with that move, he’s down a point. And his hope was to catch something.

Even if he had guarded instead, he’s about 70% to get taken down. Probably a half decent expected value play.

 

[luckiestman]

Conor is normally a fast starter, Dustin putting a beating on him in the first round didn’t bode well for Conor. He wasn’t going to carry the same power going later in the fight.

 

[bsj]

I'll walk back my original post. IMO CM was going to see more of the same for however many rounds remained. But I agree it is more opinion than fact so it is what it is.

 

[EvilEmpire]

Unfortunate ending, but I think Dustin has continued to improve over the years and Conor less so.

Sure, CM's striking is good enough to end any fight, but even if that fight had continued, I think it would have gotten better for Dustin the longer it went.

 

[Myt1]

You think after round 1 this fight was going 5 rounds?

No. I think it’s a five round fight.

Honestly, dude, I don’t have it for you. I know too much about combat sports to pretend that 2 minutes are definitive, especially given everything bad I said about Connor up top. I picked Poirier tonight.

But, if that round doesn’t end that way, it’s any other one point round. It’s fucking table stakes.

 

[Zomp]

Any port in a storm. Even if it’s color by number.

He’s shit grappling. He was trying to hit a home run. Even with that move, he’s down a point. And his hope was to catch something.

Even if he had guarded instead, he’s about 70% to get taken down. Probably a half decent expected value play.

I guess. Seemed like he may have been able to push off or at least not burn out his arms for better defense.

 

[bsj]

No. I think it’s a five round fight.

Honestly, dude, I don’t have it for you. I know too much about combat sports to pretend that 2 minutes are definitive, especially given everything bad I said about Connor up top. I picked Poirier tonight.

But, if that round doesn’t end that way, it’s any other one point round. It’s fucking table stakes.

Look, its all good. I am a relative novice and if I am presuming things I apologize. I watch a ton of boxing and not a whole lot of UFC. That round looked decisive to me, but there may be nuances I am not seeing. Sorry if I ruffled reathers. I walked back my initial post above.

 

[Myt1]

Conor is normally a fast starter, Dustin putting a beating on him in the first round didn’t bode well for Conor. He wasn’t going to carry the same power going later in the fight.

Oh, he’s completely fucking done. My contacts in the game are likely worse than yours, but everyone knows about the coco-bango issue. He ain’t gonna come back from this.

Too bad. Because his low kick, turn kick game was exactly what he needs to do to win. It sets the left so well.

 

[luckiestman]

Look, its all good. I am a relative novice and if I am presuming things I apologize. I watch a ton of boxing and not a whole lot of UFC. That round looked decisive to me, but there may be nuances I am not seeing. Sorry if I ruffled reathers. I walked back my initial post above.

The idea that Conor is better off losing via injury than taking a beating is not really wrong. This seems like it could lead to another big money fight where the beating would not.

I think he was set to lose too, he is a front runner. It’s not a certainty, but I see your point.

 

[djbayko]

So, best of 5?

 

[Myt1]

Look, its all good. I am a relative novice and if I am presuming things I apologize. I watch a ton of boxing and not a whole lot of UFC. That round looked decisive to me, but there may be nuances I am not seeing. Sorry if I ruffled reathers. I walked back my initial post above.

I feel you, man. And I apologize. I should have been kinder.

I went from being a huge McGregor fan to despising the guy. But he had a good game-plan—a return to his real talents, leg kick to set up left hand (and I’m not being an asshole, I talked about his low leg kicks earlier today, it’s right upthread). But, yeah, he was the dog. And he’s down 1 after that. Completely right.

And I think he’s done.

 

[luckiestman]

So, best of 5?

Poirier has at a minimum two more big paydays. If he loses to Oliveira he can do another Conor fight. Good for him.

Him vs DaBronx is a really tough fight for me as a spectator. Not everyone believed in Oliveira when he was a kid and he has really made any doubters eat it.

 

[bsj]

As an aside I enjoyed the hell out of seeing Greg Hardy get his ass kicked

 

[luckiestman]

As an aside I enjoyed the hell out of seeing Greg Hardy get his ass kicked

In an ironic twist, he looked way better than any other fight I have seen him in (just his movement). When he beat that guy from Fall River I thought he looked terrible.

 

[Zomp]

Two judges gave Poirer a 10-8. Though if he didn’t end the round with an almost finish I wonder if it would have been 10-9

 

[luckiestman]

Two judges gave Poirer a 10-8. Though if he didn’t end the round with an almost finish I wonder if it would have been 10-9

Probably 10-9 if Conor doesn’t turtle up because of the leg break.

 

[djbayko]

Probably 10-9 if Conor doesn’t turtle up because of the leg break.

Agreed. I don't know how you could score it a 10-8 without the turtle. Conor arguably won the stand up and even got some good shots in on the ground and eventually managed to get back up. Not to mention the guillotine take down (even though it was unwise strategically).

 

[Revkeith]

You’re a fanboy. We get it.

Theres no excuses to be made. The guy’s foot was ready to fall off.

this is why I’m just a lurker. You can’t post anything here without something like this in response. No analysis or anything, just insults and personal potshots.

how about I just say I had anal intercourse with your wife/mother/sister, you do the same, and we just call it good?

 

[djbayko]

I'm glad you;re above all that. Oh, wait.

If you look at the last four PPV cards and then try to make the argument this is as good as them, we have zero to discuss.

how about I just say I had anal intercourse with your wife/mother/sister, you do the same, and we just call it good?

High quality posting here.

 

[Revkeith]

I'm glad your above all that. Oh, wait.


High quality posting here.

Solid highbrow UFC analysis with a real nice response to what it was I was actually talking about . Clearly you’ve proven yourself above name calling.

I’m done. Feel free to respond with whatever response gets you above whatever you have going on that makes you feel the need to play “internet tough guy” to compensate for whatever difficulty you have in your own life. I’m certain you can live totally fulfilled with whatever you’ve got to say. You’ll get zero response from me. Done here.

 

[scottyno]

I'm glad your above all that. Oh, wait.


High quality posting here.

*you're

 

[nolasoxfan]

Two judges gave Poirer a 10-8. Though if he didn’t end the round with an almost finish I wonder if it would have been 10-9

FWIW, ESPN’s commentators said the same thing: Poirier up 10-8 after 1 round. I realize that’s just their opinion(s), but broken leg or not it seems McGregor had his work cut out for him after round 1.
Note: I didn’t see the fight. Just going on the analysis I read and listened to after the fight.

my question: does McGregor fight again? Sounds like a gruesome leg injury.

Edit: Now I can say that it looks like a gruesome leg injury. Heinous. Hope his surgery goes well today.

 

[EvilEmpire]

List of things that did not survive UFC 264:

Conor's left ankle
Wonderboy's chances at a title shot
Revkeith

 

[Myt1]

this is why I’m just a lurker. You can’t post anything here without something like this in response. No analysis or anything, just insults and personal potshots.

how about I just say I had anal intercourse with your wife/mother/sister, you do the same, and we just call it good?

Your initial post didn’t really have any analysis. Just complaining about some future where “everybody” does something based on some other future that didn’t happen.

Post-fight, literally everyone near a microphone was pointing out that McGregor was losing anyway. He was the betting underdog. The fight didn’t even go a round. No one was making excuses for him to avoid your assumed foregone conclusion about how a five round fight might have gone. Stop projecting.

 

[Mystic Merlin]

I didn’t see this, so the ESPN headline that McGregor went out on a TKO with a ‘leg injury’ drastically undersold it. Are they typically so gunshy with their reporting on nasty UFC injuries?

 

[Myt1]

Probably 10-9 if Conor doesn’t turtle up because of the leg break.

Agreed.

 

[Bozo Texino]

List of things that did not survive UFC 264:

Conor's left ankle
Wonderboy's chances at a title shot
Revkeith

And to think he's an ordained minister!

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

I didn’t see this, so the ESPN headline that McGregor went out on a TKO with a ‘leg injury’ drastically undersold it. Are they typically so gunshy with their reporting on nasty UFC injuries?

I assume the media mouthpieces are gunshy to question his ability to return. Waiting for the golden goose to put out a statement.

 

[Marciano490]

I enjoyed this meme

 

[Myt1]

The UFC will be a better place when McGregor is gone:

Good always defeats evil,” Nurmagomedov wrote on social media. “Very happy for @DustinPoirier I hope you will get the belt end of the year”

Almost three weeks later, McGregor has decided to respond to Nurmagomedov’s comment and took a seriously low blow while doing so.

“Covid is good and father is evil?” McGregor replied.

https://www.lowkickmma.com/conor-mcgregor-takes-shot-at-khabib-nurmagomdeovs-father-on-social-media/

 

[djbayko]

The UFC will be a better place when McGregor is gone:



https://www.lowkickmma.com/conor-mcgregor-takes-shot-at-khabib-nurmagomdeovs-father-on-social-media/

You'd think he would STFU for a little while after this fight. Maybe he feels like he needs to coax Khabib out of retirement since he's running low on potential pay days.

 

[Marciano490]

The UFC will be a better place when McGregor is gone:



https://www.lowkickmma.com/conor-mcgregor-takes-shot-at-khabib-nurmagomdeovs-father-on-social-media/

Wow what a piece of shit. And talking shit constantly to a guy who beat the fuck out of him and made him quit.

 

[Marciano490]

I was very impressed by Gane.

 

[HurstSoGood]

I'm hoping someone more familiar with the fight game(s) [MMA/Boxing/whatevs] can explain what I just watched from Nick Diaz. I have heard plenty of promos, hype and pre-fight bravado before, but I don't ever remember hearing a fighter basically self-diagnosing whether or not he should be getting into the ring. He was a Lou Gossett Jr. short of "having nowhere else to go." https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/32260376/nick-diaz-says-want-robbie-lawler-fight-resentment-mma

Part of me feels like I just watched Nick cry out for help in real time and that this should be posted in a different forum. One that covers mental health in a serious way. He didn't sound like someone who should be fighting. But I guess such is the fate of all gladiators? Crazy. I am sad for him.

 

[luckiestman]

I'm hoping someone more familiar with the fight game(s) [MMA/Boxing/whatevs] can explain what I just watched from Nick Diaz. I have heard plenty of promos, hype and pre-fight bravado before, but I don't ever remember hearing a fighter basically self-diagnosing whether or not he should be getting into the ring. He was a Lou Gossett Jr. short of "having nowhere else to go." https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/32260376/nick-diaz-says-want-robbie-lawler-fight-resentment-mma


Part of me feels like I just watched Nick cry out for help in real time and that this should be posted in a different forum. One that covers mental health in a serious way. He didn't sound like someone who should be fighting. But I guess such is the fate of all gladiators? Crazy. I am sad for him.

Not an uncommon Nick Diaz performance

View: https://youtu.be/ObKZDVIRjyg

 

[djbayko]

I'm hoping someone more familiar with the fight game(s) [MMA/Boxing/whatevs] can explain what I just watched from Nick Diaz. I have heard plenty of promos, hype and pre-fight bravado before, but I don't ever remember hearing a fighter basically self-diagnosing whether or not he should be getting into the ring. He was a Lou Gossett Jr. short of "having nowhere else to go." https://www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/32260376/nick-diaz-says-want-robbie-lawler-fight-resentment-mma

Part of me feels like I just watched Nick cry out for help in real time and that this should be posted in a different forum. One that covers mental health in a serious way. He didn't sound like someone who should be fighting. But I guess such is the fate of all gladiators? Crazy. I am sad for him.

He thinks he should be facing Usman. LOL

 

[EvilEmpire]

Calling up Dana a week or so out from the fight asking to go up a weight class, and getting it, is kind of funny. Nick hasn't wanted to fight for years, doesn't really want to fight now, and is disappointed he didn't get a bigger name (and more money) so he doesn't have to do it again.

I like the Diaz brothers(though more Nate than Nick), but I hope Lawler takes his head off.

 

[luckiestman]

I like the Diaz brothers(though more Nate than Nick), but I hope Lawler takes his head off.

Jesus, what would you want to happen to him if you didn’t like him
….

Nick is one of my favorite guys all time

 

[EvilEmpire]

I only like him a little. I like his brother more.

I like Lawler even more than that. I also think a last minute weight class change is pretty weak. Diaz should have worked that shit out a while ago when things were first getting set up. Lawler really had no choice but to agree with it.

 

[HomeRunBaker]

He thinks he should be facing Usman. LOL

Hysterical. I think Lawler is going to destroy him. Played him at -135 and waiting for my sites to post their props. Lawler ITD, Lawler 1-3R, etc. I expect it to be quick.

 

[Zomp]

I mean who knows. Lawler has also looked very over the hill. Just hasn't been the same since the Macdonald war.

 

[EvilEmpire]

Two old guys, one who hasn't fought in a very, very long time, the other who hasn't looked great lately, and anything could happen.

I know Nick is acting like he doesn't want to be there, but obviously it would be a mistake to read too much into his motivation as far as predicting performance. We all know once the bell rings he'll scrap. That's what they do.

 

[luckiestman]

Hysterical. I think Lawler is going to destroy him. Played him at -135 and waiting for my sites to post their props. Lawler ITD, Lawler 1-3R, etc. I expect it to be quick.

Many years ago he beat the shit out of Lawler. Open handed slapped him, called him a bitch, knocked him out.