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djbayko

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Like, if you scored the fight as a single unit, I can MAYBE see giving the win to Jones because he finished stronger. But of course, that's not how MMA scoring works.
 

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The UFC has a serious issue in judging takedowns. If getting a guy's butt on the mat for 0.8 seconds before he pops back up again influences your scoring, we're not even judging a fight anymore, just awarding points for the display of a skill.
 

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Yeah I was pretty much in the 48-47 Reyes camp. You could maybe convince me 48-47 Jones. 49 - 46?!?! Yikes.
 

djbayko

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It doesn't matter how much they counted those take downs! They only came in the last two rounds. The fight was over at that point, barring a Jones finish. Well, it should have been....
 

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Man, when they said 4-1, I thought it was going to Reyes for half a second. Reyes was never in a moment’s danger and had Jones hurt or running multiple times. Crazy judging.
 

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Need more rounds for less decisions. 7 for champs, 5 for regular fights
I like Rogan's "why don't we have 7 or 10 judges" suggestion.

10 judges, aggregate score, rather than rounds won, and I think you would cut down on the crazy variance.

The boxing ten point system doesn't make any more sense for real fighting than the wrestling point system would. I can see how adding scoring guidelines like they have in other combat sports that would help quite a bit. A back take should be worth more than laying and praying in someone's guard. A legit submission attempt, set up and executed properly, should be worthy just as much as a slip knockdown or big punch that lands.
 

Marciano490

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Latifi must be pissed the same judges didn’t give his takedowns any credit.
 

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I like Rogan's "why don't we have 7 or 10 judges" suggestion.

10 judges, aggregate score, rather than rounds won, and I think you would cut down on the crazy variance.

The boxing ten point system doesn't make any more sense for real fighting than the wrestling point system would. I can see how adding scoring guidelines like they have in other combat sports that would help quite a bit. A back take should be worth more than laying and praying in someone's guard. A legit submission attempt, set up and executed properly, should be worthy just as much as a slip knockdown or big punch that lands.
Theres no reason to not have more judges, but more rounds would make the rounds worth a lesser percentage of the fight too. In boxing a round is 8% of the fight, here it was 20%
 

djbayko

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Also judges LOVE octagon control. They're sticky down under for it
That's fucking stupid. If it's an even fight, sure take that into consideration. But if Reyes outstrikes Jones by a large margin and clearly does more damage, then to me, Reyes controlled the octagon that round, even if he was backing up.
 

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Also judges LOVE octagon control. They're sticky down under for it
I mean, just because a dude is moving laterally while another is coming forward doesn’t mean the former isn’t in control. That’s how Ali an Holmes both fought. Reyes was totally in control the first 3 rounds, even if he was moving around.
 

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This just sucks. I love this sport so much but I don’t want it to become like boxing where every big fight will have a dark cloud over the event because someone might be crooked.