Tyler Skaggs passes away

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Is that really the takeaway? Throw shit out there and when it sticks get vindicated?
Its certainly not the overall takeaway, but their reporting was correct and they were slammed for it. Just as if it was proven wrong I would expect and consider justified lawsuits up the ass
 

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The only angle involving the Angels that I can see here is the Angels athletic trainer unknowingly gave him pain pills that were laced. I can not believe that athletic trainers give fentanyl as a pain reliever. It's way, way too potent and obviously deadly.
Why do you limit it to the trainer? The family was shocked that it may involve "an employee" of the Angels. Could be a clubhouse attendant, some sort of lower level staffer who might be willing to do things for a few extra dollars, security, anyone who the player may interact with. Was Jared Remy not once employed by the Red Sox?
 

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Why do you limit it to the trainer? The family was shocked that it may involve "an employee" of the Angels. Could be a clubhouse attendant, some sort of lower level staffer who might be willing to do things for a few extra dollars, security, anyone who the player may interact with. Was Jared Remy not once employed by the Red Sox?
I wasn’t thinking from a drug dealing angle. That could be possible I guess.
 

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Why would a team physician give him black market meds for pain killers? Don't these guys have top of the line pharmaceuticals and prescription pad? If Skaggs was actually suffering from some type of pain, I can't imagine a team physician couldn't easily get him meds to be doled out at a pharmacy.

That isn't to say something shady didn't happen, but if Skaggs' arm/shoulder/something was hurting him I think finding legit pain killers shouldn't be a problem
Oh jeez I’m not talking about the team physician or anyone legit, I’m talking about a clubbie or lackey of some sort.
 
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Why would a team physician give him black market meds for pain killers? Don't these guys have top of the line pharmaceuticals and prescription pad? If Skaggs was actually suffering from some type of pain, I can't imagine a team physician couldn't easily get him meds to be doled out at a pharmacy.

That isn't to say something shady didn't happen, but if Skaggs' arm/shoulder/something was hurting him I think finding legit pain killers shouldn't be a problem
I doubt that him using fentanyl had anything to do with pain management. He wasn't on the IL when he died and usually arm injuries only hurt while throwing. Fentanyl is often used as a recreational drug (from Addiction Center):

Those ingesting fentanyl at unprescribed levels experience an intense euphoria and sense of relaxation similar to a heroin “high.”

That his blood alcohol level was .12% is further indication he was trying to get "high". I believe he was cursed with a vulnerability for drug addiction and don't see it as being a defect in character in any way.
 

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Why would a team physician give him black market meds for pain killers? Don't these guys have top of the line pharmaceuticals and prescription pad? If Skaggs was actually suffering from some type of pain, I can't imagine a team physician couldn't easily get him meds to be doled out at a pharmacy.

That isn't to say something shady didn't happen, but if Skaggs' arm/shoulder/something was hurting him I think finding legit pain killers shouldn't be a problem
A team physician would absolutely not prescribe him black market meds. Which is why the allegations made by his family are carefully couched to avoid any legal blowback. (" ... it may involve an employee of the Los Angeles Angels.")

My guess is that the family believes that the Angels got him hooked on pain meds, and Skaggs sought out black market meds when the team physician and/or trainer would not continue to supply him. Or some other sort of indirect connection.
 

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A team physician would absolutely not prescribe him black market meds. Which is why the allegations made by his family are carefully couched to avoid any legal blowback. (" ... it may involve an employee of the Los Angeles Angels.")

My guess is that the family believes that the Angels got him hooked on pain meds, and Skaggs sought out black market meds when the team physician and/or trainer would not continue to supply him. Or some other sort of indirect connection.
I really hope that's not the case, that they think the Angels medical staff prescribed him meds and then cut him off knowing he was still seeking them. That implies that they were aware that he might have had an addiction (if he was asking for them and was denied) and did nothing.

The family may simply be lashing out in denial of the notion that Skaggs had an addiction issue at all. He may have hidden it well, and they're grasping at anything that allows them to absolve him of blame in their minds.

I think if there was a failing on anyone's part as far as team employees, it's most likely that a clubhouse attendant was aware of Skaggs' addiction and didn't tell his superiors who may have been able to get Skaggs help. Clubbies are running errands for players all the time, whether it's picking up dry cleaning or running down to Popeyes for a mid-game snack. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that some clubbies might be willing to do errands that are outside the scope of legal activities, like scoring a player drugs.