Corsi said:
So your source just teased you with a direction?
Sox are in Boston. Everything is west.
Corsi said:
j44thor said:What do the A's have left after shipping off their best prospects already?
drleather2001 said:The overall circumstances of the Nomar trade made it far, far, more polarizing to the fan base.
Not only was he still a fan favorite (though some of the shine had come off in the previous 2 years), but the Red Sox were A) coming off of a heartbreaking 2003; and B) were perceived to still be in the running for the AL East with the Yankees. It was inconceivable to a large percentage of the fanbase that trading away the team's third best hitter (in an era of Slugging Uber Alles) for light-hitting, defensive specialists at SS and 1B was somehow improving the team. People thought that the ownership group had gone fucking batshit, and the Red Sox were scuttling a chance at the playoffs in the middle of the season just to spite Nomar.
Yankees fans are "shocked" that the Red Sox are trading Lester? In 2004, Yankees fans were openly mocking Red Sox fans for the team trading away Nomar. "We would NEVER trade away Jeter! Your team will ALWAYS SUCK, and this is why!"
There's no comparison. Maybe the result of 2004 is clouding people's memory, but August 1, 2004 was a really dark and strange time for Red Sox fans. August 1, 2014 is just merely the sad aspect of doing business.
EDIT: people were calling for Theo's job after the Nomar trade (and if the Sox had lost in the playoffs again, he might have lost it).
Good question. Renato Nunez? Some arms?j44thor said:What do the A's have left after shipping off their best prospects already?
rodderick said:
Yeah, this is what I'm concerned about. Kinda strage if they traded him to Oakland right now, their system is pretty barren.
God, I hope that this is true, and maybe we're getting back Hernandez & others.SoxFanInPdx said:Mariners panic move?
Why would the A's do that?!?Sinistas said:https://twitter.com/alexspeier/status/494841597083676672
Probably. Mark Buehrle has been an utterly ordinary-to-slightly-below average starter for about five years now.catomatic said:If the Red Sox brain trust watched 35 year-old Mark Buehrle and his 11 win, 3.11 ERA beating their team handily last night—what did they make of that? Did they say "14M (or its market equivalent) for that production is something we'll be able to find in a LH whenever we have the need for it."? Do they remember trying to patch together FA/Callup rotations with the Matt Clements and the Kyle Snyders of the world? What convinces them so resoundingly that the hypothetical bird in the bush is so much more cost efficient than the one in their hand that they are setting themselves up for such a huge PR hit? Medicals? I doubt it. Intention to resign him? I doubt it. If they wanted to pay the freight they've had many months in which to do it. He's gone in my opinion, but I'm really searching for answers. I might need a Frontline special with Will Lyman's voice breaking this down for me when all is said and done.
To win the world series with their budget? They will never have a better chance than right here, right now. Moneyball only gets you so far. Maybe Billy is ready to take his shot at crossing the finish line. Adding Lester gives them the best rotation in baseball.cherno said:Why would the A's do that?!?
Don't get me wrong, I HOPE its true . . . I'm in shock. Just never imagined we could get a player like Cespedes for Lester+.DennyDoyle'sBoil said:To win the world series with their budget? They will never have a better chance than right here, right now. Moneyball only gets you so far. Maybe Billy is ready to take his shot at crossing the finish line. Adding Lester gives them the best rotation in baseball.
Sox have to be putting something else in the mix if that's the deal, right?Jaylach said:If Cespedes is actually coming back, :fap:
cherno said:Don't get me wrong, I HOPE its true . . . I'm in shock. Just never imagined we could get a player like Cespedes for Lester+.
God, I hope this is true.
Alcohol&Overcalls said:
A .310 OBP 28yo outfielder making a lot of money?
I like the return, but it's not outlandish - in a way, it makes the most sense for both parties. The Sox get a name to chill fan outrage, plus leverage payroll, while Oakland makes their run and can fill most of the production with Gomes/platoon.