Trade deadline
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He jumped the gun on Scherzer yesterday, but...
View: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1421142078139076612
View: https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/1421142078139076612
He won't. Not judging. Not complaining. But few teams/GMs/ownership groups view things through a lens of urgency like the Yankees, and Bloom is on the far end of that spectrum. And that's ok, we signed up for that.
I dont need Berrios and Kimbrel. Just give me a solid #3 starter and CJ Cron.
On that note, have Rosenthal et al explained what happened with the purported SD deal, it are they just pretending that never happened?
Was probably a message to the Dodgers that they need to include Josiah Gray, just like this could be a message to get us to give up Duran.
The Dodgers came in over the top, basically what the Patriots did when Rodney Harrison was going to sign with the Raiders
The fact Scherzer didn't go there doesn't mean he was wrong that the teams had agreed on the terms.
If Duran would get Berrios, I would definitely do it. I don't dislike Duran, but the upgrade from any SP not named Sale/Eovaldi to Berrios is worth it IMO.
My thought is Scherzer steered his way to LAD.
Thought being that Bauer’s contract will be voided and he will get his money via an extension.
MLB Radio this morning:
It was always going to be the Dodgers. The Nats played it perfectly by leaking Padres mis-directs in order to improve the Dodger return.
Then...something about Boras...
I think it makes total sense to GFIN ... my only argument is that the Sox don't have the chips to get the best players available ....Or, they have a few chips, who they will need after 2022. If they had twice as many top prospects as they currently have, the discussion would be different.
Starting to get a little concerned about substantive improvements to the competition.
Perhaps Bloom thinks this Red Sox team isn't going to make it past Chicago or Houston in the post season, regardless - and he's not going to empty the prospect bank for the lottery.
Perhaps Bloom thinks this Red Sox team isn't going to make it past Chicago or Houston in the post season, regardless - and he's not going to empty the prospect bank for the lottery.
I agree with this. You have to make an effort to improve to honor the great first half, but you shouldn’t do anything dumb.
Agreed.
As always, I see fans becoming tribal. Either annoyed as hell at the team for letting the competition get better while they do very little, or others annoyed at those fans. Bottom line is, I didn't want them to move heaven and earth for this year at the expense of the future. But there are holes to be filled and its clear that the peloton is coming. I wanted a decent stick at 1st and a middle rotation guy. Both can still happen and neither should be terribly costly. If they get those pieces, I am happy. If they only end up with Schwarber, it's a cause for concern.
Or he thinks the team can compete as is and the cost for a marginal improvement isn't worth it.
Yeah, no chance the Sox could top this
View: https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1421147561705021442
View: https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/1421147561705021442
The first two are add ons or throw ins, part of a package, not a package in and of themselves. As for Downs, remember there was no MiLB last season so you've had him for less than a year.
I never worry too much about mid-season improvement to the competition. At the end of the day, they're marginal at best. Berrios has a 1.7 WAR right now, he'll maybe add 1 win over what the Jays #5 has right now.
We need to improve to have a more reliable bat at 1B, a better #3/4 starter for the playoffs etc.... but that is true in isolation of what our competition does.
Yeah, that's probably Duran + Downs ish and my guess is majority of people would still prefer Martin + SWR.
I was cool with Cron earlier. I don't like the idea of two of your acquisitions guys being injured with 60 games left, a slim division lead AND extremely limited options to replace them if need be.
Buyers are bleeding through the nose right now, making it very hard for us to do anything. Berrios package is very good for MIN.
Another thought might be that he has lesser desire deals lined up as a back up while still trying to land certain players at a cost he feels the organization can afford.
How is Steve Cohen going to let the Mets front office NOT make a block buster deal? He better take another Twitter break if they do nothing......
That coming roster crunch is why I'm confident we're still doing something. We can't keep all of those pitchers!
Honestly there's not much Chaim can do right now. The players who have been traded who we have appeared to have been interested in were also gaining interest from other teams that have better farm systems.
Look at the Yankees move for Rizzo. The top prospect in that deal would be in our top 3. For the Yankees it was more like 7-10 neighborhood. They have a deeper system. As do others.
If we end up trading a couple of guys in the 10ish range of our system for Schwarber and another acquisition, I'm fine with it. Bloom is trying to get our organization where the Yankees org is (as well as others in the East).
Its been a great ride but realistically this team is not built for a championship and I'm not sure we have the talent in the minors to get pieces to get us to a championship - at least this year.
Look at the Yankees move for Rizzo. The top prospect in that deal would be in our top 3. For the Yankees it was more like 7-10 neighborhood. They have a deeper system. As do others.
If we end up trading a couple of guys in the 10ish range of our system for Schwarber and another acquisition, I'm fine with it. Bloom is trying to get our organization where the Yankees org is (as well as others in the East).
Its been a great ride but realistically this team is not built for a championship and I'm not sure we have the talent in the minors to get pieces to get us to a championship - at least this year.
View: https://twitter.com/danhayesmlb/status/1421151478715138052?s=21
Still think now is a great time to coolly pick up and give $100M to a franchise player and perennial MVP candidate in Byron Buxton, but I’d settle for Rogers or Pineda.
Still think now is a great time to coolly pick up and give $100M to a franchise player and perennial MVP candidate in Byron Buxton, but I’d settle for Rogers or Pineda.
Looks like any more deals for the Sox will be off the radar types. Teams looking for straight salary dumps for a B level prospect. Maybe we can get someone decent.
I am deeply worried about the balance of the season if we don't add a single starter given what ERod, Pivetta, Perez, and Richards have looked like the last few weeks.
If the competition is panicking, sitting still in first place doesn’t necessarily seem like a bad option. I’m not sure either the Yankees or Blue Jays are good enough this year where adding the pieces that they are is enough to push them over the top. But it’s nice to see them burn through a few prospects trying. We may lose the trade deadline battle, but Chaim seems to be doing well winning in the long run overall.