Trade Deadline 2022

[cshea]

I've been wondering what happens if Jake DeBrusk plays the rest of the year with the Bruins. I looked up the RFA rules on CapFriendly and, as best as I can figure out:

• the Bruins would make a QO to DeBrusk of $4,410,000 for one year (CapFriendly's calculation).
• if DeBrusk signs an offer sheet with another team the Bruins would receive that team's first and third round picks as compensation.

Please let me know if I'm wrong -- this is complex stuff.

I would just add that the QO is optional. The Bruins could elect to not qualify him thus making him an unrestricted free agent, They did this last season with Nick Ritchie and Ondrej Kase.

The most recent information is Jake still wants out. His agent has been given permission by the Bruins to talk to other teams. The QO number is scary for everyone, not just Boston, but it's in the best interest of everyone involved in the trade if he agrees to an extension with his new team. DeBrusk gets the security of a new deal, the acquiring team avoids the QO conundrum and gets more than just 20 games of Jake, and theoretically the return to the Bruins for a signed DeBrusk is higher than a unsigned DeBrusk with the QO problem looming.

 

[cshea]

And as the rumor mill turns 10 days out. Not a ton of rumors out there, but a few items from Friedman this week.

In his pod with Marek on Monday he listed the Bruins as having "kicked tires" on Giroux. Didn't really go any further, they talked mostly about Florida for Giroux. Apparently Philly had a heavy front office presence at a recent Florida AHL game. Owen Tippett seems to be the thought there. The Avs have been heavily rumored to be in play for Giroux but Friedman thinks they've cooled, or are at least up to something else. The Rangers were also mentioned as a tire kicker with Boston.

In his column, the Bruins and Avs were noted to have interest in Andrew Copp from Winnipeg. 27-year old C/LW, $3.64 mil AAV. This would seem to perhaps lineup for a DeBrusk trade. Money is almost a wash, DeBrusk is a little younger but without a contract it's almost UFA for UFA and they can figure out conditional stuff if either re-sign.

Anyways we're closing in on Donny Deals szn. Earliest he's ever made a trade in-season is 5 days prior to the deadline (Coyle). 5-days away from the annual letdown!

 

[Bozo Texino]

Fluto on what it will take to nab Hertl.

Are y'all cool with dealing Lohrei or Lysell if it means the B's can extend Hertl? Hall-Hertl-Pastrnak is niiiice.

 

[Maximus]

Fluto on what it will take to nab Hertl.

Are y'all cool with dealing Lohrei or Lysell if it means the B's can extend Hertl? Hall-Hertl-Pastrnak is niiiice.

2C is the biggest need. Giroux or Hertl seem to be the targets. I would move Lohrei in a package but not Lysell.

 

[LogansDad]

2C is the biggest need. Giroux or Hertl seem to be the targets. I would move Lohrei in a package but not Lysell.

This is where I'm at, too.

 

[Salem's Lot]

Fluto on what it will take to nab Hertl.

Are y'all cool with dealing Lohrei or Lysell if it means the B's can extend Hertl? Hall-Hertl-Pastrnak is niiiice.

I would trade either but not both for an extended Hertl. I would try to go after Chychun with the other. Maybe that convinces Bergeron to play another year or two, and Pastrnak to sign an extension early.

 

[GeminiFish]

not quite on topic, but any non-drafted college seniors that would be of interest to NHL teams?

 

[Jordu]

Are y'all cool with dealing Lohrei or Lysell if it means the B's can extend Hertl? Hall-Hertl-Pastrnak is niiiice.

No. I think Lohrei and Lysell need to be untouchable. They’re the #1 and #2 prospects. This team will need to build in the next couple of seasons and those are controlled players they can build around.

I’d include a first-round pick in a package for Hertl but not Chycrun — Hertl can be a 1C after Bergeron is gone but Chycrun’s ceiling is a second-pair LHD.

Best case: Anaheim takes DeBrusk, Studnicka, maybe Beecher and a couple of non-first-round picks for Hertl.

I don’t think we’re getting Hertl, though. Price is likely to be too high.

 

[The Napkin]

Greg Wyshynski
@wyshynski
On the Jakob Chychrun market: Had one NHL GM tell me today that the price is going to be off the charts high. That this isn't going to be a "1st and two top prospects" type of deal.
@ArizonaCoyotes swinging for fences on the ask, apparently.

 

[cshea]

Forbort might've taken Chychrun off the board. They and other teams are awaiting test results after he left Saturday's games. The Coyotes aren't going to lower their asking price, either. Still sounds like a first, roster player, prospect at a minimum. LeBrun metions Lindholm as a perfect fit for Boston too.

https://theathletic.com/3180407/2022/03/13/lebrun-jakob-chychruns-injury-complicates-deadline-plans-latest-on-ben-chiarot-tomas-hertl-and-more/

Some other tidbits. Hertl is currently not on the market. The Sharks are "all-in" on an extension. Presumably they'll get an answer sometime this week and will pivot if necessary.

 

[cshea]

MTL is holding Chiarot out of the lineup tonight. We'll see who else follows suit.

The Athletic Trade Board was updated. Jake comes in at #3, though there were reports out yesterday from Friedman that the Bruins were going to keep him.

https://theathletic.com/3182418/2022/03/15/nhl-trade-deadline-big-board-3-0-mark-giordano-claude-giroux-and-31-others-who-could-be-dealt/

B's mentioned with Colorado, STL and Florida as interested in Giroux. Should note that Giroux is scheduled to play his 1000th game as a Flyer on Thursday so nothing will happen before then. No clue on how Giroux feels about Boston in terms of the no-move. Geographically, Boston is the closest to of the rumored interested teams to Philly. He's in the same age group as Bergeron and Marchand so I assume he's crossed paths with them on Team Canada's and All Star games and what not. The biggest hurdle may be the playoff path being in the same division as Tampa, Florida and Toronto. Even kicking over to the Metro would likely bring Carolina in round 1.

We'll see what happens. One thing Don has done in the past a few times is consolodate bad contracts and trade requests into a single move. Spooner and Beleskey in the Nash deal. Backes was both. Wonder if he can do something like that with DeBrusk, but the problem is DeBrusk isn't a spare part at this point like Spooner and Backes were. I think if they trade DeBrusk they would want something back to replace him.

 

[cshea]

Dreger reporting the Chychrun injury is not as serious as first thought and he could be back on the ice this week. LA and Boston remain in the hunt with "multiple piece offers"

View: https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1504081569706872832?s=20&t=xJx1devfB5FFsSDcAz83iw

And more smoke from LeBrun. He said they were in on Manson and have checked in on Lindholm.

View: https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1504083078658109445?s=20&t=xJx1devfB5FFsSDcAz83iw


We'll see. The years of conservative trade activity makes me think they'll ultimately pass, but again, Chychrun seems to check a lot of boxes if they ever were going to extend themselves. Young, signed cheap, area of need. If they are in the mix, then this is likely the biggest package Sweeney has every tabled in trade discussions.

Buckle up.

 

[Dogman]

I'm likely completely crazy here but after playing Chicago last night, is there anyway Toews can be had?

I realize his cap hit at $10.5M is prohibitive but with the B's having $2.8M in space now, using Moore's LTIR $2.75M, including Debrusk at $4.75M and adding another player could make the dollars work. Obviously picks would be involved too. Chicago is going nowhere, Toews has 1 year left on his deal and they have holes all over that roster. This answers the 2C issue that exists on the Bs roster.

Is this crazy?

 

[Salem's Lot]

I'm likely completely crazy here but after playing Chicago last night, is there anyway Toews can be had?

I realize his cap hit at $10.5M is prohibitive but with the B's having $2.8M in space now, using Moore's LTIR $2.75M, including Debrusk at $4.75M and adding another player could make the dollars work. Obviously picks would be involved too. Chicago is going nowhere, Toews has 1 year left on his deal and they have holes all over that roster. This answers the 2C issue that exists on the Bs roster.

Is this crazy?

Toews had looked pretty cooked to me this season, and I’ve watched a lot of that team after making the awful decision of drafting Marc Andre Fleury in fantasy.

And that’s besides the fact that he’s not the kind of person that I would want to root for. I’m not expecting a team full of choir boys but that guy is legit dirt bag.

 

[Dogman]

Toews had looked pretty cooked to me this season, and I’ve watched a lot of that team after making the awful decision of drafting Marc Andre Fleury in fantasy.

And that’s besides the fact that he’s not the kind of person that I would want to root for. I’m not expecting a team full of choir boys but that guy is legit dirt bag.

That is completely fair, I haven't watched him play at all. Could some of that be the poor roster around him?

I understand your second point well and completely forgot about his part in that shitshow. I guess that is what the league wanted so, yeah.

 

[cshea]

Friedman's weekly column is out. Bruins littered through it. Says they are in the market (among others) for an LHD and they haven't forgotten how injuries on D impacted the Islanders series last year. Specific to Chychrun, he says normally an injury like this would scare everyone off, especially contenders, but since there are non-contenders in the mix for him that the contenders would need to step up now because Chychrun might not be around in the offseason.

Up front., he says they've checked in with Vancouver for some scoring, and thinks Max Domi may be someone the Bruins are interested in.

Certainly seems like we'll have at least 1 new defenseman come Monday, it's just a matter of who. My wishlist is Chychrun 1, Lindholm 2, Giordano 3.

I kinda wonder about Boeser from Vancouver. He's kind of in the same boat as DeBrusk, pending RFA with a big qualifying offer due. Some sort of DeBrusk for Boeser trade could work for the Bruins. Boeser is a RW and could slide onto the top line and let the Bruins keep Hall and Pastrnak together on the 2nd line.

 

[Maximus]

Friedman's weekly column is out. Bruins littered through it. Says they are in the market (among others) for an LHD and they haven't forgotten how injuries on D impacted the Islanders series last year. Specific to Chychrun, he says normally an injury like this would scare everyone off, especially contenders, but since there are non-contenders in the mix for him that the contenders would need to step up now because Chychrun might not be around in the offseason.

Up front., he says they've checked in with Vancouver for some scoring, and thinks Max Domi may be someone the Bruins are interested in.

Certainly seems like we'll have at least 1 new defenseman come Monday, it's just a matter of who. My wishlist is Chychrun 1, Lindholm 2, Giordano 3.

I kinda wonder about Boeser from Vancouver. He's kind of in the same boat as DeBrusk, pending RFA with a big qualifying offer due. Some sort of DeBrusk for Boeser trade could work for the Bruins. Boeser is a RW and could slide onto the top line and let the Bruins keep Hall and Pastrnak together on the 2nd line.

I agree with your stack ranking of of D targets. I like the idea of a Jake for Boeser swap. I don't think we are going to fill our primary need of 2C. Giroux will go to the Avs. A Getzlaf acquisition would not surprise me since Donny was after him in the off-season and he could be packaged in a Lindholm deal.

 

[cshea]

Predictably, the ask on Lindholm is a high one. First, grade A prospect and another piece.

View: https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1504515830540910600?s=20&t=k7fDdx-5LbujNPrc6JbY4A


I'd do it with an extension, but I'd rather spend the extra assets necessary for the cost controlled option in Chychrun.

FLA fucked up the market with the miserable Chiarot trade.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

Toews had looked pretty cooked to me this season, and I’ve watched a lot of that team after making the awful decision of drafting Marc Andre Fleury in fantasy.

And that’s besides the fact that he’s not the kind of person that I would want to root for. I’m not expecting a team full of choir boys but that guy is legit dirt bag.

That is completely fair, I haven't watched him play at all. Could some of that be the poor roster around him?

I understand your second point well and completely forgot about his part in that shitshow. I guess that is what the league wanted so, yeah.

Pretty sure he hasn't been close to the same player since his CIRS diagnoses in 2020.

 

[cshea]

Krejci's season in the Czech is over. 5 days to get it done and somehow sneak him through waivers...

View: https://twitter.com/ConorRyan_93/status/1504537538245144581?s=20&t=mY6N0KFLbDLttXuFzhrGlg

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/antsanphilly/status/1504654701228396546?s=21

 

[burstnbloom]

Krejci's season in the Czech is over. 5 days to get it done and somehow sneak him through waivers...

View: https://twitter.com/ConorRyan_93/status/1504537538245144581?s=20&t=mY6N0KFLbDLttXuFzhrGlg

if they put a $2m signing bonus, no other contender but the rangers can claim him. Just sayyyying

 

[cshea]

Kinda surprised by the FLA choice for Giroux. I mean, they are good team but the Atlantic and east is a meat grinder and the path towards a cup is much more difficult than what faces Colorado out west. FLA has to go through some combo of Boston, Tampa, Toronto and then Carloina, Pittsburgh or the New York Shesterkin's to a Cup. Colorado is far and away the best team in hockey and faces a much easier path. To be honest, I kinda want him to end up on Colorado. They are so much fun to watch, I can't imagine what they'd look like at full health with Giroux.

Anyway, looks like Hampus Lindholm is officially on the block as extension talks have broken down.

View: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1504794637915017217?s=20&t=y1ABf2IPvtip3UhKUfH1sA

 

[Maximus]

Would have loved Giroux or Hertle to solve our 2C issue. I hope Giroux is headed to Colorado instead of Florida too. It looks like D will be Donny's opportunity and possible a forward to replace Debrusk if he is traded. Getzlaf would be a buy low candidate packaged with Lindholm for a first, Debrusk, +.

 

[burstnbloom]

Kinda surprised by the FLA choice for Giroux. I mean, they are good team but the Atlantic and east is a meat grinder and the path towards a cup is much more difficult than what faces Colorado out west. FLA has to go through some combo of Boston, Tampa, Toronto and then Carloina, Pittsburgh or the New York Shesterkin's to a Cup. Colorado is far and away the best team in hockey and faces a much easier path. To be honest, I kinda want him to end up on Colorado. They are so much fun to watch, I can't imagine what they'd look like at full health with Giroux.

Anyway, looks like Hampus Lindholm is officially on the block as extension talks have broken down.

View: https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1504794637915017217?s=20&t=y1ABf2IPvtip3UhKUfH1sA

He does solve a pretty major problem in their top 6. They are currently playing Maxim Mamin with Verhaeghe and Barkov. Giroux represents a huge upgrade there. Selfishly I do not want him there. They are an awesome team but I kinda think they can be had. They aren't great at slowing down their opponents, they just outscore everyone. If you can slow them down and play the top two lines to a draw, you can do some real damage against that new D pair or Chiarot and Montour.

 

[cshea]

So I think the play over the next 3 days is to put a 1st, Lohrei and Studnicka on the table with the Ducks and Coyotes and see if someone bites. They can haggle over lesser pieces, add-on's/salary filler, but that's pretty much the best the Bruins can offer. If that can't land you Chychrun or an extended Lindholm, it's on to the cheaper depth rentals like Leddy or de Haan.

Up front, I think the big move is to try and wheel DeBrusk into a RW that can play on the top line. Plus a Tommy Wingels type bottom-6 depth.

C obviously is missing from this but it doesn't appear to be a priority and I'm not sure there's really anyone out there that could be of interest. Maybe Getzlaf can be included in a Ducks deal but he's currently on IR.

 

[veritas]

I have really mixed feelings on Chychrun. The price tag is huge, and at first glance, a low-danger volume shooter is not what this team needs at all. On the other hand, his shot is great, and adding a great shooter to a terrible shooting defense corps might open up some space in the high danger areas for the forwards. Key word: might. He also does nothing on special teams. That is a lot of money to pay for a strictly 5v5, offensive defenseman.

Lindholm seems like a better fit for this team, and such a natural pairing with McAvoy that I don't see Chychrun being. He's not flashy, but he's a shutdown defender who can get the puck out of his own end. Especially come playoff time, a pairing of him and McAvoy is going to dominate half the game at 5v5 and 4v5, no matter who they're playing with or against. And they can then shelter and matchup the bottom 4 to get the best out of them.

 

[RG33]

Toews had looked pretty cooked to me this season, and I’ve watched a lot of that team after making the awful decision of drafting Marc Andre Fleury in fantasy.

And that’s besides the fact that he’s not the kind of person that I would want to root for. I’m not expecting a team full of choir boys but that guy is legit dirt bag.

Unless I am missing something, I think you are confusing Toews with Patrick Kane. Toews wears the C and is thought of pretty highly around the league. Kane is the dirtbag that had rape charges dropped because of lack of evidence a few years ago.

 

[Salem's Lot]

Unless I am missing something, I think you are confusing Toews with Patrick Kane. Toews wears the C and is thought of pretty highly around the league. Kane is the dirtbag that had rape charges dropped because of lack of evidence a few years ago.

I meant Toews. Go ask people in the bars around Chicago what kind of guy he is.

 

[RG33]

I meant Toews. Go ask people in the bars around Chicago what kind of guy he is.

Gotcha. I had never heard that.

 

[TSC]

Gotcha. I had never heard that.

Not to mention his comments on Kyle Beach.

Fuck Toews.

View: https://twitter.com/jackie_redmond/status/1453890475249786902?s=21

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1505242988917800972

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/nhlrumorsdaily/status/1505292018943201283?s=21

 

[TFP]

Ahem - text: Per NHL Insider @KevinWeekes, the Boston Bruins have traded for Anaheim Ducks defenseman Hampus Lindholm and addressed their biggest need at the NHL trade deadline

View: https://twitter.com/boshockeynow/status/1505293838100930563?s=12

There’s already a thread

 

[Murby]

There’s already a thread

Gah. My error. Thank you

 

[burstnbloom]

We have to expect they are done on LHD now. I expect they will want a RHD upgrade to clifton. Pysyk, Braun, etc. Haula also seems to have fallen out of favor but there isn't much rumored to be on the market for a second line Center. There is also still the Debrusk situation to work out. I think we still have an interesting 48 hours in front of us.

 

[Salem's Lot]

Frank Seravalli is reporting Giroux to Florida.

https://mobile.twitter.com/frank_seravalli?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

 

[burstnbloom]

A meh return, kind of expected that with the NMC. I'm not a fan of tippett and the 1st is in 2024. The Panthers dont have a 1st round pick until 2025.

 

[cshea]

Sounds like the B’s really tried for Giroux


View: https://twitter.com/emilymkaplan/status/1505305479467184146?s=21

 

[cshea]

Curious to see what happens in the next 36 hours. Depleted the draft capital, but are seemingly set up for another big move at F. No idea who that is.

 

[RedOctober3829]

View: https://twitter.com/bruins_stats/status/1505362740801531911?s=21

 

[TSC]

View: https://twitter.com/bruins_stats/status/1505362740801531911?s=21

I’d honestly love Domi. He can do a lot of the pest/agitation stuff that works so well in the playoffs, and allow Marchand to focus on his more important responsibilities.

 

[FL4WL3SS]

I’d honestly love Domi. He can do a lot of the pest/agitation stuff that works so well in the playoffs, and allow Marchand to focus on his more important responsibilities.

You're assuming Marchand can help himself of course.

 

[cshea]

FWIW, Studnicka is not practicing today.

 

[BostonFanInCanesLand]

FWIW, Studnicka is not practicing today.

could still be traded of course but Bruce says he’s off the ice because he’s day to day after blocking a shot.

 

[cshea]

View: https://twitter.com/conorryan_93/status/1505584355221164038?s=21

View: https://twitter.com/conorryan_93/status/1505584895535558659?s=21

 

[NJ_Sox_Fan]

Would love to get Domi here

 

[cshea]

Krejci will not return this season.

 

[burstnbloom]

Krejci will not return this season.

just lowering the profile to sneak him through waivers.

 

[cshea]

just lowering the profile to sneak him through waivers.

On his podcast on Friday, Friedman said the team was looking at the situation closely. The thought was the Bruins would sign him and pay Arizona or Montreal to claim him and trade him back to Boston.