Toucher and Rich --- Everyone Else Has Some Work To Do

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I appreciate Fred mentioning that Adam Jones is going to be co-hosting next week. Gives me the weekend to cue up 5 days worth of podcasts to listen to in the morning.
Yeah he's usually pretty good about giving the audience advanced warning when there's gonna be a fill-in, just surprised it isn't Joe Murray. Not that that'd be much better... definitely gonna be listening to something else next week
 

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DeBrusk's story this morning was pretty great about accidentally ordering UberEats to the wrong city. He's so chill for a professional athlete, I'm glad they've been able to bring him back for a couple of years now.
 

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Despite posting about it here, I tuned in today, forgetting Jones was on. First few minutes just now was Rich talking Bruins with a beat writer. Good stuff. Then Jones jumps in “But the division kinda stinks...”. Click, off. What a complete tool that guy is.
 

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Despite posting about it here, I tuned in today, forgetting Jones was on. First few minutes just now was Rich talking Bruins with a beat writer. Good stuff. Then Jones jumps in “But the division kinda stinks...”. Click, off. What a complete tool that guy is.
I heard that too and I couldn't believe he said that. Washington and Philly are top teams that have played well despite not having their #1 centers for most of the season. Pittsburgh is still really talented. The Islanders and Rangers are talented teams not playing great and Buffalo/NJ are the bottom feeders yet tough to play against. Jones' argument of Tampa, Toronto, and Montreal not being there so it stinks is way off-base. Montreal finished 5th, 4th, and 6th in the division the last 3 years. Swapping out Ottawa, Detroit, and Montreal for NY Rangers, NY Islanders, and NJ Devils at the bottom of the division makes this division much tougher than the Atlantic was last year. Swapping out Tampa, Toronto, and Florida at the top of the division with Washington, Philly, and Pittsburgh also makes the division tougher as well.
 

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I heard that too and I couldn't believe he said that. Washington and Philly are top teams that have played well despite not having their #1 centers for most of the season. Pittsburgh is still really talented. The Islanders and Rangers are talented teams not playing great and Buffalo/NJ are the bottom feeders yet tough to play against. Jones' argument of Tampa, Toronto, and Montreal not being there so it stinks is way off-base. Montreal finished 5th, 4th, and 6th in the division the last 3 years. Swapping out Ottawa, Detroit, and Montreal for NY Rangers, NY Islanders, and NJ Devils at the bottom of the division makes this division much tougher than the Atlantic was last year. Swapping out Tampa, Toronto, and Florida at the top of the division with Washington, Philly, and Pittsburgh also makes the division tougher as well.
I totally believe he said it, because Jones is a tool who has nothing to offer besides being the negative, hot takez guy. He's a predictable, exhausting bore. In this case, it took him 3 minutes to destroy what I was finding to be an interesting segment.

It's a shame that they keep using him as the T&R replacement host. He sucks so damn much.
 

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I totally believe he said it, because Jones is a tool who has nothing to offer besides being the negative, hot takez guy. He's a predictable, exhausting bore. In this case, it took him 3 minutes to destroy what I was finding to be an interesting segment.

It's a shame that they keep using him as the T&R replacement host. He sucks so damn much.
To your initial point though, I enjoy when they have Ty on to talk Bruins. He’s a good listen.
 

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If the Patriots are good or they somehow find their future QB, it will absolutely crust Freddy T and is ongoing Patriots narrative.
Yeah, he has went out of his way to absolute BURY the prospects of Jimmy G and Mac Jones to fill his Pats hate narrative.
 

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What's up with the beef Fred has for Sean Grande? Fred was defending Mike Gorman for when he was out this past weekend and Grande filled in. Fred was saying something to the effect that Grande was coming off like a shill to get noticed by NBCSports Boston so that he could be considered a replacement for Gorman. Wallach was REAL quiet while Rich also gave no Fs and chuckled away. Is there a back story I'm not hearing?
 

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Not liking the drunken recaps is definitely a me problem, but beyond that - I REALLY didn't need to hear an entire segment of Bird this morning as part of one.
 
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What's up with the beef Fred has for Sean Grande? Fred was defending Mike Gorman for when he was out this past weekend and Grande filled in. Fred was saying something to the effect that Grande was coming off like a shill to get noticed by NBCSports Boston so that he could be considered a replacement for Gorman. Wallach was REAL quiet while Rich also gave no Fs and chuckled away. Is there a back story I'm not hearing?
Possibly because that's the gig Wallach wants?
 

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What's up with the beef Fred has for Sean Grande? Fred was defending Mike Gorman for when he was out this past weekend and Grande filled in. Fred was saying something to the effect that Grande was coming off like a shill to get noticed by NBCSports Boston so that he could be considered a replacement for Gorman. Wallach was REAL quiet while Rich also gave no Fs and chuckled away. Is there a back story I'm not hearing?
Hmm I don't think there's any back story. Fred said as much. He's close with Gorman and perceived Grande as taking a veiled shot at Gorman. I checked the Twitter post that Fred was talking about and didn't see it the same way.

I do think it's funny that Fred openly shits on the radio gigs.
 

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I urge anyone who enjoys the bits on this show to listen to the drunken Bruins recap, top of hour 3 today. It evolves into beautiful absurdity, including “Goblin talk with Mike and the Mad Dog”. Fred’s Mike is pretty good.
 

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So apparently Fred hung up on Jeff Howe today about an argument over Mac Jones earlier today, and they are still talking about it??
 

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I was listening. Fred was being a jerk (i.e. his normal maladjusted self) and trying to pretend he knows what he is talking about and insulted Howe and implied that Howe's reporting was untrue. Howe bowed up to defend himself and Fred hung up on him. Fred declaring that Howe, not he, was the A-hole and aggressively dying on that hill. I think(?) it's all performative, but Fred's personality disorder is clouding things a bit...
 

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I was listening. Fred was being a jerk (i.e. his normal maladjusted self) and trying to pretend he knows what he is talking about and insulted Howe and implied that Howe's reporting was untrue. Howe bowed up to defend himself and Fred hung up on him. Fred declaring that Howe, not he, was the A-hole and aggressively dying on that hill. I think(?) it's all performative, but Fred's personality disorder is clouding things a bit...
Got ya. I caught just a couple minutes of them replaying the tape, so wasn't sure what was going on. I hope they didn't tick off Howe too much and cooler heads prevail. (Or maybe it was just all Fred shtick or whatever like you said.) Howe has become my favorite Pats beat writer. His Athletic columns have become a must read, and I enjoy listening to him when I can on Mondays.
 

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Yeah, that was pretty uncompelling radio. While hanging up on Rick Pitino was outstanding, this quickly devolved into beating a dead horse.
 

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I was just recently thinking about how unique and cool T&R are - just last week they bounced between all 4 pro sports, music (ranging from hip hop to ska to hair metal), original comedy, pop culture and Boston-specific stuff. That’s hard to do.

And then they do crap like that and I wonder why. What’s the point? I don’t enjoy the cringe stuff at all.
 

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I'm hoping a clear headed and sober Fred will listen to it and realize he came off like a turd and will apologize
 

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I haven’t listened to the segment, but I normally enjoy Fred’s take on football stuff. The interviews with Breer are enjoyable. I imagine Fred wanted to take a stab at the (vast) minority of people who think Mac will be Brady. That person isn’t Howe in my mind, so I’m not sure why he picked the fight with him. Howe did need the pushback when he wrote that Watson to the Pats article, but everyone needs clicks/ ratings so who cares
 

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I'm hoping a clear headed and sober Fred will listen to it and realize he came off like a turd and will apologize
Not gonna happen. Felger has grabbed onto Fred's rant and is promoting the Big (Mac) Lie. "Fred's on it... if the Saints were so horny for Mac Jones... what's the difference between trading down from 14 to the Vikings at 23 vs. the Saints at 28 [to jump up and take Jones]. Doesn't seem right... the Saints didn't really want him."

smh
 

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I heard it and F&M are actually going over it right now as I type this. It's all "reports" I dont know why Fred threw down the gauntlet on he's right and Howe doesn't know shit. He obviously didn't know that Howe reported that the Saints were going after Jones, which seemed like it caught him by surprise.

I'm not sure who's right, but I'm surprised Fred took such a hard line on this one with someone they really like. Seems like a stupid thing to bitch about and hang up on someone about. It's weird to call someone a defensive Patriots baby or whatever Fred called him and then yell at him at the end of the call and call him a prick and hang up.