Toucher and Rich --- Everyone Else Has Some Work To Do

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Jim Brewer's appearance was priceless today. It's too bad it had to cut off at the end of the show. They could have had him go on for at least another hour. He was rolling.
 

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Fred really hates the pats, huh? I get it, he isn’t from around here and it has to be annoying to do a sports talk radio show during one of the most successful runs in sports history. That being the case, does he have to be such an asshole about it? I really like Fred for the most part but when he is talking football he comes across as a bitter ahole. He a sports radio host in Boston, not Cleveland. Get over it.
 

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Fred really hates the pats, huh? I get it, he isn’t from around here and it has to be annoying to do a sports talk radio show during one of the most successful runs in sports history. That being the case, does he have to be such an asshole about it? I really like Fred for the most part but when he is talking football he comes across as a bitter ahole. He a sports radio host in Boston, not Cleveland. Get over it.
Fred comes across as a bitter asshole when he talks about most subjects, not just football.
 

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I've said it here before, but I love Murray on the show. He brings a lot to the table and a different dynamic.

I'm not anti-Wallach but he's basically replacement level. Murray's got some VORP.
 

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Murray would be a fantastic 3rd. He has some interesting stuff he can bring to the table....huge gambler, big foodie (guy is MASSIVE) and knows most sports because of his gambling. So he actually follows all sports closely probably more than everyone on TSH. He could actually bring conversations to the table, unlike Wallach
 

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I'm not a Patriots fan, but Fred is annoyingly all over the place with his Jets. Last week he was saying that the Jets would make the playoffs (until he lamely walked it back) and now he's acting like this performance was expected. If you're going to shit all over Baker for every bad game, the same goes for Sammy D.
 

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I'm not a Patriots fan, but Fred is annoyingly all over the place with his Jets. Last week he was saying that the Jets would make the playoffs (until he lamely walked it back) and now he's acting like this performance was expected. If you're going to shit all over Baker for every bad game, the same goes for Sammy D.
Maybe you can answer the call of the Patriots Super Fan lol

Side note, I meant to post this yesterday, I don't think I'll ever get tired of Fred's Ray Lewis impression. "I love my 4 pillas. One of them has superman on it"
 

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Maybe you can answer the call of the Patriots Super Fan lol

Side note, I meant to post this yesterday, I don't think I'll ever get tired of Fred's Ray Lewis impression. "I love my 4 pillas. One of them has superman on it"
Haha, I think that bit is going to be great radio for a few weeks. Fred may lose his mind.
 

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I'm not a Patriots fan, but Fred is annoyingly all over the place with his Jets. Last week he was saying that the Jets would make the playoffs (until he lamely walked it back) and now he's acting like this performance was expected. If you're going to shit all over Baker for every bad game, the same goes for Sammy D.
His continued defense of Sammy D is laughable at this point, and I think he's continuing to do it just because of his stubborn hatred of Baker. But also just because he never likes to admit when he's wrong -- even in the slightest -- on some of his stronger "takes". See Tatum for example.
 

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Absolutely epic radio today during the Patriots Protector segment. Fred absolutely LOST it towards the end arguing with some guy name Chris about the Brady Netflix scene drama. He needs his meds.
 

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That jokes segment might have been the most painful thing I've ever heard on this show, and this is from someone who remembers Stoner Smitty Rates The Snacks and Different Strokes 8-Ball
 

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That jokes segment might have been the most painful thing I've ever heard on this show, and this is from someone who remembers Stoner Smitty Rates The Snacks and Different Strokes 8-Ball
That segment led to “You know that movie, Philadelphia?” which made me laugh as hard as I have in a while. Thus, it was glorious.
 

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That segment led to “You know that movie, Philadelphia?” which made me laugh as hard as I have in a while. Thus, it was glorious.
That was pretty funny but the jokes themselves were terribad. Fred's insistence that they were gold was funnier than the jokes themselves
 

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This morning there was some actual tension in the room. Something happened yesterday where Rich had to stay for a post-show meeting meeting with the higher ups and Fred said it had something to do with Fred. And Rich didn't call him to tell him what was up. Then, Rich goes to the Bruins game. It was some paid appearance from the TD Garden and he got (from either the Garden or the radio station) 10 tickets to the game. He asked 5 of the 7 people who work on the show (did not invite Fred or Dan). Fred went off that it was weird that he wasn't invited but really upset Rich didn't even tell him about the outing (The also went to Guy Fieri's new restaurant and posted on Instagram that they were all sorry they went without Fred...har har har)

Fred was legitimately upset and all Rich kept saying was that it is so "weird that you are so butthurt about this" and that it "wasn't a station thing, I only had ten tickets". "Not everyone on the show went". I call BS too. That is a shitty thing to do.

At some point Fred said something to the extent of...you don't care to tell me stuff that you do to make yourself look good in management's eyes, you are just a prick. He also said that he and Rich were radio partners, they've never been friends.

This did not seem at all like a work.
 

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Whoa. I haven't tuned in a ton like I used to but that sounds bad.

If Fred said they were never really friends, that's bullshit and he probably said it out of anger. I'll never forget him first talking about Mary being diagnosed with cancer and how raw and emotional it was.

What hour did this go down? I'd like to listen if they put the podcasts up.
 

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This morning there was some actual tension in the room. Something happened yesterday where Rich had to stay for a post-show meeting meeting with the higher ups and Fred said it had something to do with Fred. And Rich didn't call him to tell him what was up. Then, Rich goes to the Bruins game. It was some paid appearance from the TD Garden and he got (from either the Garden or the radio station) 10 tickets to the game. He asked 5 of the 7 people who work on the show (did not invite Fred or Dan). Fred went off that it was weird that he wasn't invited but really upset Rich didn't even tell him about the outing (The also went to Guy Fieri's new restaurant and posted on Instagram that they were all sorry they went without Fred...har har har)

Fred was legitimately upset and all Rich kept saying was that it is so "weird that you are so butthurt about this" and that it "wasn't a station thing, I only had ten tickets". "Not everyone on the show went". I call BS too. That is a shitty thing to do.

At some point Fred said something to the extent of...you don't care to tell me stuff that you do to make yourself look good in management's eyes, you are just a prick. He also said that he and Rich were radio partners, they've never been friends.

This did not seem at all like a work.
Oh man. Haven't heard it yet but this doesn't sound good. Sounds similar to what happened with opie and anthony and we see where that has gone...
 

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Whoa. I haven't tuned in a ton like I used to but that sounds bad.

If Fred said they were never really friends, that's bullshit and he probably said it out of anger. I'll never forget him first talking about Mary being diagnosed with cancer and how raw and emotional it was.

What hour did this go down? I'd like to listen if they put the podcasts up.
It was the opening segment. I listened from 6:00-6:18, I think.
 

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Just heard it. Wow, I really think my opinion of Rich has changed. I mean we all know Fred is a hockey fan, why would Rich honestly expect him to turn down a free ticket? Even if he did, Fred should have at least been asked. Rich had 10 tickets, Bird, Nick, Rich, Wallach, Murray, (producer)... asking Fred is only 7. He should have at least asked. For once I agree with Fred.
 

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Rich is in the wrong, and his reaction to Fred's complaints was really dickish. Wonder what went on at the meeting after yesterday's show - I'm sure that has something to do with it.
 

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This morning there was some actual tension in the room. Something happened yesterday where Rich had to stay for a post-show meeting meeting with the higher ups and Fred said it had something to do with Fred. And Rich didn't call him to tell him what was up. Then, Rich goes to the Bruins game. It was some paid appearance from the TD Garden and he got (from either the Garden or the radio station) 10 tickets to the game. He asked 5 of the 7 people who work on the show (did not invite Fred or Dan). Fred went off that it was weird that he wasn't invited but really upset Rich didn't even tell him about the outing (The also went to Guy Fieri's new restaurant and posted on Instagram that they were all sorry they went without Fred...har har har)

Fred was legitimately upset and all Rich kept saying was that it is so "weird that you are so butthurt about this" and that it "wasn't a station thing, I only had ten tickets". "Not everyone on the show went". I call BS too. That is a shitty thing to do.

At some point Fred said something to the extent of...you don't care to tell me stuff that you do to make yourself look good in management's eyes, you are just a prick. He also said that he and Rich were radio partners, they've never been friends.

This did not seem at all like a work.
Fred is such a dick. He's spent the last month saying over and over again that he'd never make the effort to go out with people. See: Joe Murray party where he whined about not getting an invite, but also saying he never would've gone. Or last week when he said he wouldn't go out with Nick unless it was at his golf club. He says constantly that he hates going out into the city.

It's for good reason since he's got his family and shit, but don't complain about not getting invites when you say over and over again that you're never going to go out. The dude left a bruins game on his anniversary after half a period or some shit! He's acting like a baby and Rich shouldn't be blamed for actually doing nice stuff for the staff and getting the chance to know them.
 

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Rich is absolutely insufferable when he's being defensive and acting like a baby. He does this like every 6 months about something. He just makes circular arguments, deflects, whines and gets so defensive.

Rich was 100% wrong here. Fred is a dick, Fred whines, but he got 10 tickets and invited everyone but Fred and Dan. Dan should be pissed too.

Rich even said at one point "so and so couldn't go, so I figured I'd ask Joe Murray"
 

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Fred is such a dick. He's spent the last month saying over and over again that he'd never make the effort to go out with people. See: Joe Murray party where he whined about not getting an invite, but also saying he never would've gone. Or last week when he said he wouldn't go out with Nick unless it was at his golf club. He says constantly that he hates going out into the city.

It's for good reason since he's got his family and shit, but don't complain about not getting invites when you say over and over again that you're never going to go out. The dude left a bruins game on his anniversary after half a period or some shit! He's acting like a baby and Rich shouldn't be blamed for actually doing nice stuff for the staff and getting the chance to know them.
And that included him literally saying "I don't want to go to any more Bruins games".
 

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Listened to the 6am hour, and it was definitely real.... during the crossover with Zolak they seemed to be in a better place.

Well wishes to Wallach. I've piled on him before for his show persona but all that aside he's obviously a good guy.
 

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At one point before a break Fred teased "and Jim Murray has a take on Alex Cora that he'll have for you after the headlines "

Has Fred (or Rich) ever teased a Wallach take in 10 yrs?
 

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At one point before a break Fred teased "and Jim Murray has a take on Alex Cora that he'll have for you after the headlines "

Has Fred (or Rich) ever teased a Wallach take in 10 yrs?
I don't think so?

The "take" was basically asking if the 2018 WS win was tainted because of Cora and the sign stealing. And that's when I flipped to something else.
 

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I very much enjoy their show, but this morning I flipped it on and got "But cheaters..." and that was that.

I hope they don't continue with that nonsense or I'll have to find some podcasts to listen to.
 

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I'm not a Patriots fan but seriously Fred, shut the fuck up about the cheater shit!
Their “Spygate 2” coverage has been insufferable. Fred has been a dreadful listen. Just saying over and over again that they are “dirty cheaters“, even trying to get Danny Ainge today to chime in and agree after asking him zero questions about basketball and deferring everything to Rich. Absolute brutal radio.
 

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Their “Spygate 2” coverage has been insufferable. Fred has been a dreadful listen. Just saying over and over again that they are “dirty cheaters“, even trying to get Danny Ainge today to chime in and agree after asking him zero questions about basketball and deferring everything to Rich. Absolute brutal radio.
The Tatum stuff is getting far past tired as well.

Am I the only one who felt like the Brookline hour today was just overkill?
 

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Their “Spygate 2” coverage has been insufferable. Fred has been a dreadful listen. Just saying over and over again that they are “dirty cheaters“, even trying to get Danny Ainge today to chime in and agree after asking him zero questions about basketball and deferring everything to Rich. Absolute brutal radio.
I think Fred is making the point somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but I agree that he's overdoing it. I totally agree on the interviews though. I think his awkward questions that lead to pregnant pauses are really funny when done occasionally, but it becomes predictable when it's every interview and really throws off the flow. He knows a ton about basketball (more than he lets on) and I enjoy when he takes those interviews seriously from time-to-time. Rich is great at the surface level, fanboy type questions that I would ask, but Fred is the one that makes the interviews great when he's engaged with one or two solid questions. The same goes for the Jaffe interviews, he really needs to handle the 'deeper' hockey questions.
 

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Fred just isn't smart enough to do tongue-in-cheek when he actually buys into it.
That's the problem. He's ALL in on this "dirty cheaters" stuff and really got into it with Michael Hurley a few days ago. Rich is also feeding Fred's monster a little bit too by buying into a lot of the concerns surrounding it.

I'm sure this will all die down very soon once the Pats get their little "slap on the wrist" punishment, but for now it makes for a tough listen.
 

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The Tatum stuff is getting far past tired as well.

Am I the only one who felt like the Brookline hour today was just overkill?
I'm pretty stubborn in my hot takes with friends where I am take committed and won't retreat. DiceK was worth it, JD Drew was a good signing and Clay Buchholz COULD HAVE BEEN a top pitcher in baseball etc.

I had to ironically admit to them Fred's take on Tatum not being good is even getting to me
 

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That's the problem. He's ALL in on this "dirty cheaters" stuff and really got into it with Michael Hurley a few days ago. Rich is also feeding Fred's monster a little bit too by buying into a lot of the concerns surrounding it.

I'm sure this will all die down very soon once the Pats get their little "slap on the wrist" punishment, but for now it makes for a tough listen.
The Fred Dirty Cheaters thing doesn’t bother me as its half serious. Rich has been absolutely brutal though with takez. He just talks in circles and keeps making points everyone already agrees with.

I turned it off most of the week due to it. I couldn’t do it.
 

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Fred has noticeably toned it down a bit this week, the show has been much better in my opinion. It was hilarious when he acted taken aback by Wallach's comment about his reaction to being gifted the book, only to be reminded that he complained about it for an entire segment.
 

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Heard Freddy T saying at the end of today's show that tomorrow he will be with Joe Murray and Adam Jones. Yep, looks like I'll be skipping that one.

I gotta be honest here, I really don't get what you all like so much about Joe. All he is is "hot takez" and gambling talk. I really can't wait for Wallach to be back.
 

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Fred and Jones were just completely awful this morning, at least the part I listened to. "Santa Jones" was handing out Christmas presents to the Boston teams/athletes. To the Brad Stephens and Bruce Cassidy he gave video cameras so they can cheat. You know, like Belichick and Cora have done, and those teams won when they cheated so the Bs and Cs should get it on it.