Toucher and Rich --- Everyone Else Has Some Work To Do

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They're music guys. That was their chosen career until they ended up in a sports talk show by an accident of fate. I think Rich has adapted well, but it's not his thing as far as a passion for analyzing it, like you say. Fred sounds like he played sports on a higher level than Rich as a kid and had a stronger interest in analyzing it. Either way I don't tune in to hear them talk about the Patriots options at strong safety for this weekend's game. I tune in for more Fart Court. Or in desperate hope that they find another Dating on Demand clip.
I love T&R because they remind me of my own group of friends from college. We're all big sports fans, but we're just as likely to yack for hours about music, TV, movies, chicks, farts, etc. I can't endure much of the rest of the Sports Hub lineup, because it's just hours and hours of uninterrupted sports takez. No one I know discusses sports that way, and I certainly wouldn't want to spend time with people who do.
 

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Does Fred have to every single day spend 5 minutes on COVID restrictions are going to screw up the kids for decades diatribe? He’s been saying it for 18 months and I don’t disagree with a lot of it but it’s so tired and not entertaining. There’s rules that make no sense and are inconsistent. There’s also a lot of rules that make sense people don’t like.

Fred hates restrictions on kids and he wants his kids to do whatever they want, which is fine. Him bitching about it constantly seems like he just wants to justify his own actions. I don’t give a shit what Milo’s basketball team is doing around masks and don’t need a segment daily on it.
 

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No one I know discusses sports that way, and I certainly wouldn't want to spend time with people who do.
This is a very succinct summation of sports radio. Imagine if you were friends Jim Murray? You'd tell him to pound sand in five minutes. Felger would get annoying, Zolak would probably drive you to slam knitting needles into your ears. Mazz and Beetle might be okay. Hardy would be a bunch of fun, I bet.

I know that this isn't the way these guys act "in real life" and they're amped up, but why? Why do they feel the need to act this way? It's not entertaining, it's forced and frankly, boring.
 

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This is a very succinct summation of sports radio. Imagine if you were friends Jim Murray? You'd tell him to pound sand in five minutes. Felger would get annoying, Zolak would probably drive you to slam knitting needles into your ears. Mazz and Beetle might be okay. Hardy would be a bunch of fun, I bet.

I know that this isn't the way these guys act "in real life" and they're amped up, but why? Why do they feel the need to act this way? It's not entertaining, it's forced and frankly, boring.
Hardy, Keefe and Arcand all seem like actual normal humans I'd like hanging out with.
 

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I forgot about those other two but they're cool.

I remember Ordway always used to say that the Big Show was like being at a bar with your friends, and I get what he was trying to say but if my friends acted like sports talk radio hosts, I'd throw myself in front of a fucking train.
 

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This is a very succinct summation of sports radio. Imagine if you were friends Jim Murray? You'd tell him to pound sand in five minutes. Felger would get annoying, Zolak would probably drive you to slam knitting needles into your ears. Mazz and Beetle might be okay. Hardy would be a bunch of fun, I bet.

I know that this isn't the way these guys act "in real life" and they're amped up, but why? Why do they feel the need to act this way? It's not entertaining, it's forced and frankly, boring.
They do what they need to do in order to get ratings.
 

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I forgot about those other two but they're cool.

I remember Ordway always used to say that the Big Show was like being at a bar with your friends, and I get what he was trying to say but if my friends acted like sports talk radio hosts, I'd throw myself in front of a fucking train.
T&R had a segment on this like 9-10 years ago mocking Ordway saying his listeners would love to sit at a bar and smoke cigars or some nonsense which was hilarious. I'm guessing this is what you're referring to.
 

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T&R had a segment on this like 9-10 years ago mocking Ordway saying his listeners would love to sit at a bar and smoke cigars or some nonsense which was hilarious. I'm guessing this is what you're referring to.
Maybe indirectly. There was a piece done about Ordway 10-15 years ago when the Big Show was huge and sports radio was really making a dent in the ratings (so maybe it was longer ago). The writer presumably asked Ordway why his show was such a success and he said something about how he and his cronies were like being at a bar with your friends and talking sports.

Which was true, I guess. But it was also really done and I would be perfect fodder for T&R. They hate phonies like Ordway and his dufus agro-male crew. I bet it was hilarious.
 

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Maybe indirectly. There was a piece done about Ordway 10-15 years ago when the Big Show was huge and sports radio was really making a dent in the ratings (so maybe it was longer ago). The writer presumably asked Ordway why his show was such a success and he said something about how he and his cronies were like being at a bar with your friends and talking sports.

Which was true, I guess. But it was also really done and I would be perfect fodder for T&R. They hate phonies like Ordway and his dufus agro-male crew. I bet it was hilarious.
What’s interesting is that the first Boston sports radio show I listened to — the Sunday Night Sports Huddle - was supposed to have started because a radio exec overheard Eddie Andleman, Jim McCarthy and Mark Witkin talking sports in a bar. And when I was listening to the show as a kid in the 80s, it came across as just that - likable, entertaining guys.

The current crew aside from T&R are so douchey I’d run screaming from that bar. At least I could talk about 90s R&B with Wallach.
 

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What’s interesting is that the first Boston sports radio show I listened to — the Sunday Night Sports Huddle - was supposed to have started because a radio exec overheard Eddie Andleman, Jim McCarthy and Mark Witkin talking sports in a bar. And when I was listening to the show as a kid in the 80s, it came across as just that - likable, entertaining guys.

The current crew aside from T&R are so douchey I’d run screaming from that bar. At least I could talk about 90s R&B with Wallach.
This week in social media (TWISM) and in case you missed it are great segments similar to T&R but led by Arcand on the Jones podcast. Jones trolling is unlistenable but these not sports segments are very good. They are standalone 15 min podcast segments so you can ignore every thing else.
 

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What’s interesting is that the first Boston sports radio show I listened to — the Sunday Night Sports Huddle - was supposed to have started because a radio exec overheard Eddie Andleman, Jim McCarthy and Mark Witkin talking sports in a bar. And when I was listening to the show as a kid in the 80s, it came across as just that - likable, entertaining guys.

The current crew aside from T&R are so douchey I’d run screaming from that bar. At least I could talk about 90s R&B with Wallach.
Given what an unlistenable and cranky know-it-all Andelman became, it's hard to convey how funny and irreverent The Sports Huddle was in its '70s heyday. In a weird way, they were a lot like T&R. They took sports seriously--but not too seriously. They called Buckingham Palace every year (IIRC) to get the Queen's Super Bowl picks. The pro wrestling manager The Grand Wizard (who only managed villains) was a regular guest--whom they treated with a seriousness and respect normally reserved for someone like Warren Buffett or Tim Cook. The GW played right along, and it was hysterically funny.
 

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Fred in ALL his anti-Pats bashing schadenfreude glory today with Adam Jones of all people as his side kick fueling the fire. This must have been his favorite show to do in months.
 

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Nobody really bit on any of Fred’s anti-Pats takes, not even Jones. Fred was trying so hard to get Andrew Callahan from the Herald to agree with him. Callahan politely disagreed or offered more sane/relevant explanations on various topics. Fred’s going to do this the rest of the week until he gets someone to agree with him.
 

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Nobody really bit on any of Fred’s anti-Pats takes, not even Jones. Fred was trying so hard to get Andrew Callahan from the Herald to agree with him. Callahan politely disagreed or offered more sane/relevant explanations on various topics. Fred’s going to do this the rest of the week until he gets someone to agree with him.
I wouldn’t let Jones off the hook. At one point he talked himself into trading Bill Belichick for a draft pick while admitting he had no idea who should replace him in that scenario lol
 

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my favorite Fredism - I don't know about this so therefore it doesn't happen/isn't true - is rearing its head during the Meatloaf conversation.
Chicks dig the 'loaf.
 

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Yep. Rich has it and Fred’s family has it. IIRC they opened the show talking about it yesterday.
Yeah it was the first break of yesterday’s show. Rich and both of his sons have it (or had. Pretty sure at least one of them should be out of the water by now), and Fred’s son had tested positive but none of the rest of the family had it. He’s broadcasting from home as a close-contact