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Mourinho gamble allows Tottenham front four to run riot – The Athletic

But this was the first time that Mourinho has played Ndombele and Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg as the two without a Lamela or Moussa Sissoko there as extra protection and ballast. Instead, Mourinho went for four pure forwards in front of the midfield. Whatever you might think about Mourinho’s style of play, he is not shy about putting goalscorers on the pitch. Some people might rather have had Giovani Lo Celso or Dele Alli in that No 10 role, but Tottenham could not have fielded a more attacking line-up than this.
 

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But this was the first time that Mourinho has played Ndombele and Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg as the two without a Lamela or Moussa Sissoko there as extra protection and ballast. Instead, Mourinho went for four pure forwards in front of the midfield. Whatever you might think about Mourinho’s style of play, he is not shy about putting goalscorers on the pitch. Some people might rather have had Giovani Lo Celso or Dele Alli in that No 10 role, but Tottenham could not have fielded a more attacking line-up than this.
These seem contradictory.
 

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These seem contradictory.
What are you talking about, he has started their two leading scorers, Kane and Son, every game he could! The problem has been that he has refused to start anybody else worth a damn when it comes to scoring goals.

Yesterday was pleasantly surprising but also annoying. It was great to see Tottenham come out with an attacking lineup and more importantly, after scoring an early goal they remained aggressive and continued to pummel the net to ensure that they squashed a weaker opponent. After the early goal I was very concerned they were going to park the bus for 80 minutes and then see Burnley get a penalty or set-piece goal to steal a point. Instead they retained possession and continued to create plenty of chances (it could have easily been 6-0) and never let Burnley even think about being in the game.

It was annoying because I think we all know that Spurs are capable of playing like this on a regular basis, especially against clubs on the lower half of the table. Jose has actively chosen not to do that with his conservative lineups and approach to the game. Since he might be managing for his life right now, I hope he is forced out of his shell more often.

Also, I think it would have been even better if Dele started in place of Moura, even if Lucas did put together a very nice game.
 

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What are you talking about, he has started their two leading scorers, Kane and Son, every game he could! The problem has been that he has refused to start anybody else worth a damn when it comes to scoring goals.

Yesterday was pleasantly surprising but also annoying. It was great to see Tottenham come out with an attacking lineup and more importantly, after scoring an early goal they remained aggressive and continued to pummel the net to ensure that they squashed a weaker opponent. After the early goal I was very concerned they were going to park the bus for 80 minutes and then see Burnley get a penalty or set-piece goal to steal a point. Instead they retained possession and continued to create plenty of chances (it could have easily been 6-0) and never let Burnley even think about being in the game.

It was annoying because I think we all know that Spurs are capable of playing like this on a regular basis, especially against clubs on the lower half of the table. Jose has actively chosen not to do that with his conservative lineups and approach to the game. Since he might be managing for his life right now, I hope he is forced out of his shell more often.

Also, I think it would have been even better if Dele started in place of Moura, even if Lucas did put together a very nice game.
I think Lucas, while a very attacking option, does more defending than Dele and that will keep him in that position.

I also think, in theory, give me that lineup with Lo Celso in for Lucas and Spurs will really have something.
 

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Lucas is a very good rotation player who's best attribute is his dribbling. Against a side like Burley expected to play in a low block, you need some threats to breakdown a defense. Lucas is also somewhat unique in that he's a gifted dribbler who's also a willing defender. He would've been a megastar 20-30 years ago in the days of a flat 4 across the MF. Also why he's played as much as he has under Mou, and he presumably speaks Portuguese.

Dele is the best attacker between him, Lucas, and GLC, but he's also the least willing defender and plays the furthest up the pitch. With Kane, Son, and Bale also in the lineup, there wasn't a lot of room for Dele.

If we ever get to unleash a 433 with Hoj, Tanguy, and GLC, watch out.

Also very happy that Dav got the start. Him and Toby is the best bet we have for a functional CB pair.
 

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The Tottenham team we saw today could easily qualify for the UCL and win Europa League. Hope we see them again.
 

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The Tottenham team we saw today could easily qualify for the UCL and win Europa League. Hope we see them again.
Counterpoint: Palace aren't good and we shouldn't read too much into this result. Spurs have won three in a row, but against Palace, Fulham, and Burnley. Important to make hay while the sun shines, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see how the derby goes first.
 

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Counterpoint: Palace aren't good and we shouldn't read too much into this result. Spurs have won three in a row, but against Palace, Fulham, and Burnley. Important to make hay while the sun shines, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see how the derby goes first.
Countercounterpoint: Palace held ManU to a 0-0 draw on Wednesday. It was Fulham's only loss in a month, which included games against three top 8 teams. Burnley has only lost once in PL since Feb 3, including games against Leiceister and Arsenal. They ain't great teams, but they've been playing well, so grabbing all 9 points isn't bad.
 

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It seems it's not just the wins but how they're winning.

The attacking front has been superb (minus Fulham). Bale's resurgence has been somewhat shocking. The return of Reguilón was great to see.

This is a team on an upswing for sure.
 

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It seems it's not just the wins but how they're winning.

The attacking front has been superb (minus Fulham). Bale's resurgence has been somewhat shocking. The return of Reguilón was great to see.

This is a team on an upswing for sure.
Agreed--the 4-2-3-1 is really clicking, and it really comes down to Bale playing at a level I didn't think he'd reach this year. I mean, look at this:

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Pretty direct fucking correlation if you ask me!

I did not think Lucas as a nominal #10 would work, but with Bale and Kane dropping deep and going central at times, it's a pretty fluid front 4. Lucas' work rate also has to figure into this--he's the only one in the front 4 that has any significant defensive responsibility in the defensive third.

Son had some really nice moments, but he desperately needs some rest. I feel like Bergy and others can give us a facsimile of what he offers, even if only in 45 minute spells. Honestly, Moura is likely his best backup--Dele and Bergy have different skillsets being better passers than dribblers. But those guys can also fill the #10 role capably (along with GLC if he ever returns). However, it needs to be said that only GLC comes close to replicating Moura's defensive work, with Dele being last by an important margin.

Hojbjerg also desperately needs some rest, but the dropoff there is more considerable (just read that Mou said PEH is sitting on Thursday--hope he follows through on that). Winks and Sissoko can replicate parts of his game, but neither comes close to the whole package. With the best CB pairing pretty clearly Toby-Dav now, Mou should determine who the 3rd/4th options are between Dier/Tang/Rodon, and see if the odd man out (or 2) could function as a DMF (the irony of Dier being in this group is not lost on me in the slightest). What a development by the way with Toby-Dav. They complement each other pretty well. It really does seem that Dav needed some regular run and confidence from his manager. Mou also recognizing that Toby is still head and shoulders above the rest, despite his drop in quality also helps. Resuscitating Dav's Spurs career is hugely important from a team-building standpoint, but also represents a huge financial value recovery.

Reggie is the fucking man. What a difference he makes. Doherty also played one of his better matches for Spurs. Pushing Serge again and generally just having both guys fresh could help, since the RB will have to participate in attack but also cover for Bale any time he's in the side.

I'm a relatively new Spurs supporter, but even I know not to get my hopes up. Least of all when it depends in large part on Mou remaining consistent with the attacking approach. COYS!
 

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Reggie is the fucking man. What a difference he makes. Doherty also played one of his better matches for Spurs. Pushing Serge again and generally just having both guys fresh could help, since the RB will have to participate in attack but also cover for Bale any time he's in the side.
Reggie is awesome. His pace changes everything.

He's played 29 games with Tottenham in all competitions:

19 wins
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Yeah shockingly a healthy Gareth Bale is really good at football.

The commitment to attacking is really paying dividends. On the third goal, Kane's wonderstrike, check out how many bodies forward Spurs have despite being up 2-1. There's a reason Kane has space and time to pick out that shot: there are five other Spurs players in the box occupying the defenders, including both fullbacks. Earlier in the season it would have been more like two and Kane would have been double-marked and never gotten a clean shot off.

As many of us have been saying all season, all-out attack is what Mourinho should have been doing from the beginning. This team has a ton of forward talent and a shaky defense. Maybe you don't go quite full Keegan, but playing to score 2-3 goals and acknowledging you'll concede occasionally makes a lot more sense with this personnel then trying to win 1-0.

I still think Sanchez is a work in progress. His positioning can still be suspect. I'm not sure he's going to be good enough long term.
 

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My annoyance with Jose largely comes from the fact that he refused to play an attacking style when Tottenham had a clear advantage when it came to attacking players; which led to Spurs conceding possession to lesser teams, allowing them to scrape together a goal or two and force Tottenham to drop points. When you are playing Crystal Palace, Burnley, Fulham, Brighton, etc. they should have the foot on the gas the entire way. For most of the season he has been happy to dominate the first 30 minutes, nab a goal, and then park the bus which was not an effective strategy. Against weaker teams, offense really is the best defense for Tottenham.

If they play Man City or Chelsea or Liverpool or another top team that has a lot of attacking firepower, maybe you do want to play more conservative, but against a majority of the league Tottenham is going to have the advantage playing an aggressive, open style of soccer.
 

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My annoyance with Jose largely comes from the fact that he refused to play an attacking style when Tottenham had a clear advantage when it came to attacking players; which led to Spurs conceding possession to lesser teams, allowing them to scrape together a goal or two and force Tottenham to drop points.
Stories claim that Jose had no problems playing this style, then West Ham scored 3 goals late and he reverted back to parking the bus. I'm hopeful that he's broken back out of that idea.

They are like 3rd or 4th in goals/game in the EPL behind Man City and ManU.
 

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Stories claim that Jose had no problems playing this style, then West Ham scored 3 goals late and he reverted back to parking the bus. I'm hopeful that he's broken back out of that idea.

They are like 3rd or 4th in goals/game in the EPL behind Man City and ManU.
Tottenham scored a lot of goals early in the season thanks to incredible efficiency from Son and Kane. They are fourth in total goals scored at the moment but rank 10th in xG. They have managed to score goals thanks to incredible performances by two players (one of which in Son was clearly unsustainable for a full season) not because they were playing aggressive, attacking soccer.

I believe that the West Ham was probably scarring in some way to Jose but I don't buy that it created some sort of epiphany for him about how he needed to play defensive soccer. He has pretty much always wanted to play that way.
 

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Tottenham scored a lot of goals early in the season thanks to incredible efficiency from Son and Kane. They are fourth in total goals scored at the moment but rank 10th in xG. They have managed to score goals thanks to incredible performances by two players (one of which in Son was clearly unsustainable for a full season) not because they were playing aggressive, attacking soccer.

I believe that the West Ham was probably scarring in some way to Jose but I don't buy that it created some sort of epiphany for him about how he needed to play defensive soccer. He has pretty much always wanted to play that way.
Agreed here. I don't want to belabor the point I've made previously here, but I think the trope that Mou is a pragmatist is mostly bullshit. He's a defensive manager and his reluctance to be more aggressive in the middle third of the season cost Spurs points. Even with the team starting to hit its offensive stride with Bale improving, I don't think the success is due to any heady attacking philosophy or strategy. It's great players playing well for the most part.

To be fair to Mou, he does excel at getting some of the harder points and generally playing well against superior opponents (MANC I, Liverpool I, United I, etc.). I expect him to have a really good plan in place for the NLD because Arse like to have the ball and Mou is at his best when playing an aggressive possession-based opponent.
 

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I'll give Jose credit, tonight he went in for the kill up 1-0 bringing on Bale, Bergwijn and Moura.
 

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Yeah, and thankfully the other team never really threatened all that much. A few here and there. It was close to being at least 4 or 5-0---that missed call on potential PK, Bergwijn hitting one right at keeper, and Bale just sliding one by.
 

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Counterpoint: Palace aren't good and we shouldn't read too much into this result. Spurs have won three in a row, but against Palace, Fulham, and Burnley. Important to make hay while the sun shines, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see how the derby goes first.
So, yeah. Spurs finally played a side who weren't content to sit back but tried to press them, and Spurs once again looked completely inept. With the ball they had no plan for how to build up against the press: there was lots of passing between the backline followed by hoofing it long and a turnover. Without the ball they had no answer for Arsenal's wide attacks and overloads or greater midfield numbers. Spurs had one shot attempt in the first 70 minutes of the game (Lamela's goal); Arsenal had 13.

Arsenal didn't actually play all that well: they didn't create many clear chances, and once they started to sit back in the last 10 minutes they looked very vulnerable. But Arsenal were so tactically superior for the first 75 minutes that they were continually in threatening positions which resulted in a deflected goal and a penalty. In a surprise to no one, Spurs' defense isn't good enough to play a perfectly clean 90 minutes against a half-decent opponent.

Oh, and Mourinho ran Son into the ground to the point where his hamstring finally gave out. Hojbjerg hasn't gotten hurt yet, but his level has also noticeably dipped recently.

#MourinhoOut

Lamela's rabona was awesome though.
 

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Oh, and Mourinho ran Son into the ground to the point where his hamstring finally gave out. Hojbjerg hasn't gotten hurt yet, but his level has also noticeably dipped recently.

#MourinhoOut

Lamela's rabona was awesome though.
Korean boards were pretty much predicting when Son will have some sort of a leg injury, for the exact reason you posted. The PL games, sure, the lower-round FA/Europa games? Just inviting disaster.

What a frustrating, frustrating match. The offense was so inept that it was a shock to see it come alive in the last 15 minutes. I guess that has a lot to do with Arsenal sitting back and trying to protect the lead.

Also, what's with the backs making just horrendous mistakes that lead to PKs? If it's not Dier then it's Sanchez. Spurs are now the 7th most conceded club with 7:

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/clubs/penalty_conceded
P. S. Yeah, the rabona was sweet though.
 

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So Hoj definitely starts today right?

For someone who was an early adopter/pioneer of periodisation, Mou's running of Son into the ground was ghastly to watch.

#COYSsigh
 

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I'm willing to put up with this disappointment as long it means the end of Jose. There is no real way that his system is going to work unless the team completely turns over, and it isn't like all of the Jose-era signings have worked out to be wonderful. Dier and Sanchez as the starting CBs with Toby on the bench, that is just asking for trouble.
 

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I'm willing to put up with this disappointment as long it means the end of Jose. There is no real way that his system is going to work unless the team completely turns over, and it isn't like all of the Jose-era signings have worked out to be wonderful. Dier and Sanchez as the starting CBs with Toby on the bench, that is just asking for trouble.
TBF, there's a contingent that would be pissed if he added Toby to the list of players ridden into the ground along with Son and Hoj. That being said, I'm surprised Mou didn't put out a stronger lineup tonight considering his focus on silverware. The NLD and Villa sandwiched around this match made any rest for key players tricky, but at this point why not go for one more week and rotate heavily for Newcastle?
 

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I can't fault Mou as much on this devastating loss.

Winks & Sissoko absolutely killed any chance the Spurs had in moving on.

These two never had any vision pushing the ball forward. To add to the insult, they forgot how to keep the ball with any regularity. The way Sissoko stopped defending on the 2nd goal was maddening too.

I used to watch Oršić play on the K-League. He was a fan favorite & a cup winner, playing for Jeonnam FC & Ulsan FC. He had some highlight goals while he was here, similar to the hat trick he just pulled off.

What a horrible, horrible display.
 

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I can't fault Mou as much on this devastating loss.

Winks & Sissoko absolutely killed any chance the Spurs had in moving on.

These two never had any vision pushing the ball forward. To add to the insult, they forgot how to keep the ball with any regularity. The way Sissoko stopped defending on the 2nd goal was maddening too.

I used to watch Oršić play on the K-League. He was a fan favorite & a cup winner, playing for Jeonnam FC & Ulsan FC. He had some highlight goals while he was here, similar to the hat trick he just pulled off.

What a horrible, horrible display.
The players were terrible. The buck stops with Jose. Who selected Winks and Sissoko?

They're all terrified to make a mistake, and as soon as they do it all comes unraveled.

Play with some sort of offensive press from the beginning. One goal kills the match. This is on Jose, and no amount of typical Jose blaming players excuses is enough. Jose has once again lost the locker room. He needs to go asap.
 

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I'm willing to put up with this disappointment as long it means the end of Jose. There is no real way that his system is going to work unless the team completely turns over, and it isn't like all of the Jose-era signings have worked out to be wonderful. Dier and Sanchez as the starting CBs with Toby on the bench, that is just asking for trouble.
I have a hard time investing much emotional energy into Europa League, but to need no better than a one-goal loss and to get skunked 3-0 is unforgivable, especially when the opposing side is in the kind of tumult that Dinamo Zagreb is. No opposition to sacking Jose, but Hugo as Team Captain and Harry Kane as the star need to take some responsibility too.
 

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I rewatched most of the match last night (it's how I cope), and what really stood out to me in the first half was the lack of any attacking plan. Winks and Sissoko were on top of the defense and there was some movement from the front 4, but not enough. The plan WAS to hit long balls. Not a good plan.

I think Sissoko gets an unfairly bad rap generally, but he was absolutely dreadful yesterday. He's really limited in the key offensive skills needed from a DMF/CMF, and he was behind the runner on the second goal and pulled some serious ole bullfighter bullshit on the third. He's either too out of shape at this point or DGAF. Winks at least tried some things but he's limited defensively, had terrible awareness, and didn't complete much of his offensive plays.

Dele had several killer turnovers. Even Arry didn't convert 2 excellent chances. Moura was close to his worst, beating guys with his dribbling but going down alleys.

The defense really suffered without Toby--between Dav and Dier the defense wasn't organized (see the second goal--Spurs had numbers in defense, but everyone was ball watching basically). Dier in particular had no awareness of what's going on, but Tanguy is also chasing the ball leaving a cut back lane, Bale is only playing token defense and if #99 didn't finish Bale's guy was ready, and Serge isn't covering anyone. At least Dav is on his man. Then again, on the first goal I thought Dav should've provided help sooner, since Dier was behind him watching the forward. But that requires good communication on the backline and Hugo. I was surprised that Serge didn't get forward much at all. I'd guess that Mou told him to stay home and not concede any counters--very lame. Although TBF, when Serge got a bit forward and slipped, it led to the first goal.

Mou is a coward for not keeping a higher line, pressing, and he's a bad manager for not having a more robust attacking plan in the first half. I'll give him credit for most of the subs--once he realized the danger he played all his best cards and still lost. He could've left Dele (playing very badly) or Lucas (understandably gassed) instead of leaving Sissoko on, but that leaves the MF without any nominally plus defenders. It's clear why Jose has run Hoj into the ground. But not having another plan in this match to cover for Hoj's absence is inexcusable. Play a 5-3-2 and stuff the middle and park the bus like you know how to Mou FFS.

Zagreb deserve credit for taking what was on the table, but they're not a good team. They mishit passes, don't have a ton of skill, and are clearly a level below. The first goal was a beaut, but also apparently that guy's go-to move. Dav should've been coached and directed to help Serge on that play. The second and third goals were primarily due to the Spurs players quitting--which is on them first and foremost, but also Mou for losing the team.

In US sports, I think the benefit of canning a coach midseason is typically less, but in world football it's de rigeur. Not sure what that means for Mou, but this feeling sucks and I'd be OK with sacking him at either time TBH. Finish top 6 (please?!?) and let's move on.
 

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Mou is starting to remind me of Rex Ryan in many ways. He feels he's the star of the team, doesn't hesitate to blame his players, and just isn't that good at what he does on a consistent basis anymore.
 

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I'm hearing more concerns about the Spurs not being able to keep Kane and Son.

After watching the horrendous midfield play from the likes of Sissoko, Winks, etc. I can't help but hope for the Spurs to bring in Kang-In Lee, the exciting 20-year old Korean midfielder for Valencia.

Although he came through their youth program and was one of the youngest ever to debut for the senior squad, they are about to go separate ways this summer. Valencia is having financial issues like a lot of other clubs. Lee has refused to sign an extension, due to being ignored for much of last season and start of this one, despite being the most creative and energetic midfielder on the squad.

Although smaller in size, he has amazing ball control, vision, and ability to keep the ball against trapping defenders. Here's one of his recent games against Villarreal:

View: https://youtu.be/dgf56jTzL6I


You may remember Lee from the last U-21 World Cup. He led the inexperienced SK squad to the finals, the first-ever for the country. Although the team lost, he won the Golden Ball as the best player in the tournament:

View: https://youtu.be/UgZCwQVuPYU


Obviously, having Kang-In to team up with Son will help in convincing him to stay with Tottenham. Just as importantly, I think he can come in and immediately become a terrific ball distributor and playmaker. Although very young, he already has plenty of experience as a SK national & as a La Liga player. Plus, Lee is said to be looking for an opportunity in the EPL, preferring to play in England over another Spanish or a French club.
 

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That was the most depressing loss not counting the UCL finals match.

Lots of chatter locally about Son getting recital hatred online.

When Jisung Park used to play for Manchester, MU fans used to have the line "you eat dogs in your own country" in the song FOR Park. The same crap (and worse) is getting thrown at Sonny by the same group of supporters. Just terrible.
 

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I 100% exempt Kane from the "I want to leave to win trophies thing" because he's fucking amazing, but if we see a parade of players THAT CAN'T SEEM TO WIN BIG GAMES HERE say they need to go elsewhere to win I want to ask them to look in a mirror.

Stop gagging away second half leads you'd be sitting top 3 easily.
 

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I assume we all knew how this was going to go the moment we saw the Sissoko - GLC swap, right? Or did everyone else figure it out when they saw the Rodon / Dier CB pairing?
 

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I assume we all knew how this was going to go the moment we saw the Sissoko - GLC swap, right? Or did everyone else figure it out when they saw the Rodon / Dier CB pairing?
The worst part is that Rodon - Dier to my eyes at least were basically okay, if not actively pretty good. When Spurs fold against crappier teams, it's always the comedy defensive mistakes. This time I didn't see that as much, it was just the sad inevitable result of ceding all initiative and possession.
 

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I assume we all knew how this was going to go the moment we saw the Sissoko - GLC swap, right? Or did everyone else figure it out when they saw the Rodon / Dier CB pairing?
From about two minutes before Man U scored their second goal:

Sissoko is so useless. He' a black hole in possession (nobody will pass to him), he's stationery on defense, he doesn't press, he doesn't make tackles or interceptions.

Mou has done exactly what everyone knew he would do in the second half: sit back and try to play on the counter, make defensive substitutions, take off the best passers.

Now it's Lamela for Ndombele. So Jose started with two good passing midfielders who were controlling the game, and now he's taken them both off. Watch United turn up the press the last 15 minutes. A United winner is inevitable now.
I checked the stats. Sissoko played 30 minutes in central midfield. He touched the ball only 12 times, completing 6/9 passes, and made only one tackle and no interceptions.

Sissoko was never a good passer but a few years ago he could at least cover a lot of ground and he had a little value as a progressive dribbler carrying the ball forward. But he's now almost 32 and has clearly lost a step, and so his mobility and dribbling value has almost completely disappeared, and he brings nothing else to the table.
 

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I assume we all knew how this was going to go the moment we saw the Sissoko - GLC swap, right? Or did everyone else figure it out when they saw the Rodon / Dier CB pairing?
Dier is a non-starter for me (Ha!). This team has 3 or 4 viable CBs, and none of them are Dier. He seems like a good dude and I think his development stunted when he couldn't decide between CB and DMF (he should stick with CB), but he's far worse than Toby, Sanchez, and Rodon, and I'd rather see Japh get run at CB than see Dier. The guy forgets to look over his shoulder every match. Until that's trained out of his game, he can't play CB.
 

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From about two minutes before Man U scored their second goal:



I checked the stats. Sissoko played 30 minutes in central midfield. He touched the ball only 12 times, completing 6/9 passes, and made only one tackle and no interceptions.

Sissoko was never a good passer but a few years ago he could at least cover a lot of ground and he had a little value as a progressive dribbler carrying the ball forward. But he's now almost 32 and has clearly lost a step, and so his mobility and dribbling value has almost completely disappeared, and he brings nothing else to the table.
Damn shame about Sissoko, as I think he was underappreciated the past couple of seasons. But he should absolutely be done at Spurs. Would rather try Winks out there, but Mou burned that bridge. Same goes with Dele. Obviously not a perfect player for Mou's system, but talented and with a skillset that's scarce on this squad. Maybe don't burn that bridge with repeated blasts of napalm for months on end Jose?

If there's seriously 20M tied up in Mou finishing the season, the only way I can honestly advocate for sacking him now is if you think that getting rid of him makes the likelihood of finishing top 4 significantly stronger (i.e. offsetting the loss). Otherwise, take your medicine, learn from the mistake, and fire him into the sun come summer.
 

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Just like Bobby Valentine. From the second it was announced, you knew it was a mistake, he actively made the team less likeable, and the honeymoon was measured in nanoseconds.

Good fucking riddance.