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Might as well close the season and give the Buc's the SB win. I'm sure he's pissed off Brady and given him that little bit of extra motivation. Shit, he even insulted Gronk.
 
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Might as well close the season and give the Buc's the SB win. I'm sure he's pissed of Brady and given him that little bit of extra motivation. Shit, he even insulted Gronk.
I am looking forward to his likely answer when asked about it, "I only talk about players on the team."
 

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He admitted his ankle is a mess. Nobody is touching this asshole.
Underrated stupid move by him assuming the ankle isn’t totally blown. Could’ve likely signed with Dallas or KC and gotten those playoff checks.
 

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The toilet.
I thought AB could rip a team/management/coaches and it wouldn't hurt his employment prospects at all, but ripping on Brady may be the bridge too far. For Christ sakes, even after the last game Brady was supportive (or at least, didn't throw him under the bus).

I'm one to think he may have had a TBI, but that doesn't make him any less of an asshole now.
 

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I don’t think he really ripped Brady. It was basically him saying “my QB can’t throw and catch at the same time.”
 

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I don’t think he really ripped Brady. It was basically him saying “my QB can’t throw and catch at the same time.”
He basically said Gronk is getting paid because he's really Tom's boy and he's not and asked if Tom really helped him out.
 

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As some of you guys know, Bob Menery is a friend of mine (the head guy at Full Send podcast). So very cool to see him get guests like this. Wouldn't say he's the greatest interviewer, but Bobby is the same guy on and off the pod, and while I can't stand AB, it's pretty awesome seeing Bobby get some recognition, even if it is for interviewing a tool like AB.
 

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Gronk made two $500,000 incentive bonuses today. He needed 7 more catches and 85 more yards. Both were accomplished.
 

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At the culmination of the season, I updated my spreadsheet of quarterbacks with year 40 stats on Pro Football Reference. There's 20, that includes Brady.

Some had, of course, very short stints at 40+.

Brady accounts for 39.13% of all completions, 37.92% of all yards, and 39.53% of all touchdowns in that club.

2,019 completions, 22,938 yards, 168 touchdowns.

It's truly remarkable what he's doing.
 

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As some of you guys know, Bob Menery is a friend of mine (the head guy at Full Send podcast). So very cool to see him get guests like this. Wouldn't say he's the greatest interviewer, but Bobby is the same guy on and off the pod, and while I can't stand AB, it's pretty awesome seeing Bobby get some recognition, even if it is for interviewing a tool like AB.
You’re friends with the BWW commecial guy??
 

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You’re friends with the BWW commecial guy??
Yep, known him since he was a kid caddying for me and my friends (and his dad and uncles, etc.). I was with him at a Celtics game before the holidays. It's kind of nuts that my son's friends all follow him like crazy. He's doing unbelievable. He's a big part of the reason Josh Gordon got signed by KC this season, I've got tons of stories....
 

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He's just insane. I mean, he complained that Gronk didn't have incentives in his contract when he did, and complained about not getting the ball when his target rate while on the field in 2021 was the highest he ever had on any team at any point in his career.
Playing "maybe this time AB isn't full of shit" is like playing "maybe this is the year Tom Brady goes over the cliff."
 

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I dunno, at some point the last ones going to be true.
On one hand, Father Time is undefeated. On the other, if there's one pro athlete who simply walks out of the ring before FT can land the KO, it's Brady. (Is it "going over the cliff" if you don't go over the cliff?)
 

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On one hand, Father Time is undefeated. On the other, if there's one pro athlete who simply walks out of the ring before FT can land the KO, it's Brady. (Is it "going over the cliff" if you don't go over the cliff?)
Good point: the Jim Brown 'leave while I'm still king of the hill' move is about as rare a group as the one he's already in. I hope this is the route he goes rather than the other well trod ground.
 

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Yep, known him since he was a kid caddying for me and my friends (and his dad and uncles, etc.). I was with him at a Celtics game before the holidays. It's kind of nuts that my son's friends all follow him like crazy. He's doing unbelievable. He's a big part of the reason Josh Gordon got signed by KC this season, I've got tons of stories....
That is awesome. I also follow him on the gram. He really turned his ig persona into an amazing career. Not sure how he became friends with some of the people he hangs out with, but again great for him. And his dating choices have been pretty good, guess I should have been funnier in life
 

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Good point: the Jim Brown 'leave while I'm still king of the hill' move is about as rare a group as the one he's already in. I hope this is the route he goes rather than the other well trod ground.
He has said he will walk away once he feels he can’t be great anymore, and I believe him.

He’s not gonna be a Testaverde or Flutie toiling away for 3-4 years as a backup/pseudo coordinator.
 

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He has said he will walk away once he feels he can’t be great anymore, and I believe him.

He’s not gonna be a Testaverde or Flutie toiling away for 3-4 years as a backup/pseudo coordinator.
I believe him too. Of course, I bet that even if he's not what he once was, he will still think he has greatness left in him. So he might hang on longer than we think he will.
 

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I believe him too. Of course, I bet that even if he's not what he once was, he will still think he has greatness left in him. So he might hang on longer than we think he will.
Well maybe he will quit if he ever misses the playoffs again. Or if he is ever as bad as Ben this year. Whichever comes first b
 

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Ben (2021): 390-605 (64.5%), 3740 yds, 22 td, 10 int, 86.8 rating
Brady (2019): 373-613 (60.8%), 4057 yds, 24 td, 8 int, 88.0 rating

Statistically, pretty damned close. Though I contend that Brady's numbers were worse than his actual performance. Still....not as far off as you'd think.
 

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Yeah I remember that year when Brady had Najee in the backfield with Freiermuth at TE and Johnson and Claypool at WR.
 

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Come on man. You think Ben would get a two year deal at $30 Million per from anyone this off season? Brady had no line that year.
 

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I was pointing out that the numbers might be close but anyone could tell the difference. Even GMs. Carson Wentz had pretty decent numbers this year too.
 

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Brady as only QB to go back to back with two different teams might consider retiring. But then the allure of the threepeat would probably drag him right back in.
 

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I think Brady comes back even if he wins the Super Bowl while throwing for 400 yards and 5 TDs. He has a year left on his deal and will likely see it through. I don't think he has any hangups over not "going out on top", if he believes he can compete at a high level he'll do it, even if that means retiring after a disappointing loss at home in the Divisional round or whatever.
 

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I think Brady comes back even if he wins the Super Bowl while throwing for 400 yards and 5 TDs. He has a year left on his deal and will likely see it through. I don't think he has any hangups over not "going out on top", if he believes he can compete at a high level he'll do it, even if that means retiring after a disappointing loss at home in the Divisional round or whatever.
One thing about Brady, his arm is still great. You watch Brees last year or Ben or Cam this year flinging around the ball like it's an 8 pound kettlebell and it's totally different. Brady is still slinging the ball.

He'll be back for 2022. He just finished a season where he led the NFL in yards and touchdowns. Which is truly hilarious.
 

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One thing about Brady, his arm is still great. You watch Brees last year or Ben or Cam this year flinging around the ball like it's an 8 pound kettlebell and it's totally different. Brady is still slinging the ball.

He'll be back for 2022. He just finished a season where he led the NFL in yards and touchdowns. Which is truly hilarious.
The most ridiculous part to me is leading the league in attempts at that age, with no significant dropoff in arm strength over the course of the season (the sideline throw to Perriman he made against the Panthers was just stupid). In a way it's funny that people are just taking it as no big deal that a 44 year old was one of two QBs to throw at least 30 passes in every game. It's like if Clemens had pitched 250 innings for the Yankees in 2007 while sitting 97.
 

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One thing about Brady, his arm is still great. You watch Brees last year or Ben or Cam this year flinging around the ball like it's an 8 pound kettlebell and it's totally different. Brady is still slinging the ball.

He'll be back for 2022. He just finished a season where he led the NFL in yards and touchdowns. Which is truly hilarious.
Has it gotten better after his last season with us? Because I remember thinking in that last year that he didn't look all that great, but it could just be I was disappointed by the season overall and that's clouding my memory.
 

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One thing about Brady, his arm is still great. You watch Brees last year or Ben or Cam this year flinging around the ball like it's an 8 pound kettlebell and it's totally different. Brady is still slinging the ball.
TB12, baby. Pliability.

All joking aside, whatever else the TB12 method is about, clearly whatever it is is working for him. Might not work for ME, but it's working for HIM. He 100% believes in what he's doing, and for good reason. The results are only the best results the sport has ever seen. Hard to argue with it. I don't know how much of that is the TB12 method, or Brady's genes, or his work ethic, or luck, or whatever. But he's convinced the TB12 method is key, and he has every reason to believe in it, because he's doing things that have never been done in the sport before.
 

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It's too bad Antonio Brown (deep threat) couldn't keep from blowing up. What with that and other receiving corps injuries the Bucs have, with the guys Tom has left to throw to, he might as well be Mac Jones. I do hope Mac improves over the offseason though.
 

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It's too bad Antonio Brown (deep threat) couldn't keep from blowing up. What with that and other receiving corps injuries the Bucs have, with the guys Tom has left to throw to, he might as well be Mac Jones. I do hope Mac improves over the offseason though.
Mac has receivers as good as Evans and Gronk?

I sort of want Brady to keep playing until Chris Simms, Max Kellerman and Rob Parker retire. Oh, and Jimmy G.

How many number 1 pick QBs have started and finished their careers since Brady came in the league? Vick, David Carr, Palmer, Eli, Alex Smith, JaMarcus, Bradford , Luck,...maybe Cam.
 

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Mac has receivers as good as Evans and Gronk?

I sort of want Brady to keep playing until Chris Simms, Max Kellerman and Rob Parker retire. Oh, and Jimmy G.

How many number 1 pick QBs have started and finished their careers since Brady came in the league? Vick, David Carr, Palmer, Eli, Alex Smith, JaMarcus, Bradford , Luck,...maybe Cam.
+ non #1 future HOFers Phillip Rivers, Big Ben, and Drew Brees.
 
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With each passing year we're going to get more and more HOFers who are actually in the HOF who started and finished their careers during Brady's run. Seems like there has been 1 or 2 in the last few classes.
 

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Mac has receivers as good as Evans and Gronk?

I sort of want Brady to keep playing until Chris Simms, Max Kellerman and Rob Parker retire. Oh, and Jimmy G.

How many number 1 pick QBs have started and finished their careers since Brady came in the league? Vick, David Carr, Palmer, Eli, Alex Smith, JaMarcus, Bradford , Luck,...maybe Cam.
No, I meant without the deep receivers he normally has, Brady might as well be Mac Jones against the Eagles. Although, Brady did astonishing well with a bunch of JAGs in several seasons with the Patriots.
 

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No, I meant without the deep receivers he normally has, Brady might as well be Mac Jones against the Eagles. Although, Brady did astonishing well with a bunch of JAGs in several seasons with the Patriots.
Every QB is going to be Mac Jones against the Eagles, they play defense specifically to not get beat deep, which is why five players put up 80+ completion percentage games on them this season. Evans and Perriman are still deep threats.
 

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Tom Brady has 10 playoff wins in his 40s.

Peyton Manning, Elway, Steve Young, and Bradshaw had 14 in their career. These guys were the elite in their eras and Brady in his 40s is keeping up with their careers.

Players below Brady in his 40s. Russell Wilson, Brees, McNabb, Kurt Warner, Kim Kelly, Dan Marino. These are guys who rewrote the record book in a variety of ways. They are in the hall of fame or going into the hall. Brady in his 40s is better than their careers in terms of playoff wins.

Hilarious.