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My man Santi Aldama is having a night with 5 three’s already. He is one of the guys I’m writing about for my “10 players the casual NBA fan has never heard of but will soon” piece for next week.
 

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I watched some of Bulls-Pellies even without Zion, for some reason, and NOLA’s rookie center, Yves Missi, looks surprisingly functional. That could be huge, given that Theis is the only other center in the roster.
Have some empathy for @benhogan , he just lost Baynes, we can't be joining the War On Theis too!

edit: also, ESPN is drunk.

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LaMelo with 34 / 8 / 11. Udoka will be working the guys extra hard at the next practice.

Tre Mann goes for 24, including 4-8 from 3P land. It will certainly be interesting to see how much talent OKC gives up over the next few years because he certainly can't use all of the draft picks he's accumulated.
 

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I will be shocked if this clippers team wins more than 25 games. Floored.
 

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My man Santi Aldama is having a night with 5 three’s already. He is one of the guys I’m writing about for my “10 players the casual NBA fan has never heard of but will soon” piece for next week.
some suggestions:
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Cam Thomas (25ppg potential)
TJD
Dyson Daniels
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Jaquez Jr
 

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I disagree. Redick is cut from the same cloth as Mazzulla. As much as the media and fans want to say he's here to answer to LeBron I could not disagree more. That isn't his style at all.
Lebron rules the Lakers with an iron fist. He wants the alley-oop or 3pt assist highlight with Bronny, and JJ will play Bronny until they get it.
 

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My man Santi Aldama is having a night with 5 three’s already. He is one of the guys I’m writing about for my “10 players the casual NBA fan has never heard of but will soon” piece for next week.
Look forward to it. He always pops out as "who is this guy i've never heard of...looks pretty good" when I see him.
I will be shocked if this clippers team wins more than 25 games. Floored.
I mean, they're up 8 w/ 4 minutes to go on the Suns team that's getting a lot of hype. Am only watching casually as i work, but I think the Clippers will be decent. Good depth. A bit like the Warriors (probably not as good)
 

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After I write that, Harden seems to be single handedly trying to throw away the game. Sheesh. I think it's due to his casual affect, but when he plays bad it's really striking, as if he doesn't give af.
 

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Is it my TV or is the crown noise too loud/the announcers' voices too quiet in this Clippers game?

Sounds weird.
 

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i'm watching without sound....(I will say that new Inuit Dome looks cool)
 

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Have some empathy for @benhogan , he just lost Baynes, we can't be joining the War On Theis too!
I’m entirely Pro-Theis. He probably shouldn’t be starting for a team with playoff aspirations at this point, but he’s still a rotation guy, certainly.

Not having a backup center just seems less than ideal.

edit: also, ESPN is drunk.

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That’s some opening night media partner hilarity.

What was the actual final score, 123-111? Was that the score at the end of the 3rd, or something?
 

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That’s some opening night media partner hilarity.

What was the actual final score, 123-111? Was that the score at the end of the 3rd, or something?
That would make some sense, but according to the play by play (which could certainly also be innacurate), the score NEVER was 81-80. It was 77-80 at one point (3:37 left in the 3rd) and a couple minutes later it was 81-90, but it was never 81-80. GJGE.
 

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That would make some sense, but according to the play by play (which could certainly also be innacurate), the score NEVER was 81-80. It was 77-80 at one point (3:37 left in the 3rd) and a couple minutes later it was 81-90, but it was never 81-80. GJGE.
From when I interviewed with ESPN about five years ago at this point, I was told those scores and such are synced and updated with the league or an external third party for updates, and you typically see them more often with small college athletics because the third party then is the home school's stadium/arena itself. Not a direct indictment at the WWL, for better or worse.
 

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That would make some sense, but according to the play by play (which could certainly also be innacurate), the score NEVER was 81-80. It was 77-80 at one point (3:37 left in the 3rd) and a couple minutes later it was 81-90, but it was never 81-80. GJGE.
Knowing how both the official and at least one of the 3rd party softwares work it's impossible to go from a score in the mid 3rd quarter to game final without blowing through about a dozen checks and doing it on purpose, so that had to be a display issue and not a software issue. I also noticed that despite them having the score as 81-80 chicago they had new orleans as the "winner", which would fit with when it was 81-90 and them somehow screwing up the display to knock 10 points off the score.
 

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Lebron rules the Lakers with an iron fist. He wants the alley-oop or 3pt assist highlight with Bronny, and JJ will play Bronny until they get it.
No chance of that. I mean if this were true don’t you think his son would have gotten more run than 5-6 trips up the floor? We all should know what last night was.
 

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I disagree. Redick is cut from the same cloth as Mazzulla. As much as the media and fans want to say he's here to answer to LeBron I could not disagree more. That isn't his style at all.
I like Redick, and imagine he had the exact discussion we're spitballing about before he took the job because he didn't NEED this job. So he'll definitely try, and I expect will be able to loosen their offense up and change some things. He's more than a figurehead.

But, the reality is that we have more than a decade of experience with Lebron/Klutch simply running over coaches - only Spo has really fully controlled Lebron in memory.

And we also have many years of Jeannie and her coterie of half-informed meddlers getting involved with the team at various levels of the organization.

So no matter what one thinks of Redick himself, it's just not realistic given the dual track records above to expect Redick to truly be calling the shots in the most head coaches in most situations do, imo. We will see--but I think you're running against a pretty strong pair of currents on this one
 

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I like Redick, and imagine he had the exact discussion we're spitballing about before he took the job because he didn't NEED this job. So he'll definitely try, and I expect will be able to loosen their offense up and change some things. He's more than a figurehead.

But, the reality is that we have more than a decade of experience with Lebron/Klutch simply running over coaches - only Spo has really fully controlled Lebron in memory.

And we also have many years of Jeannie and her coterie of half-informed meddlers getting involved with the team at various levels of the organization.

So no matter what one thinks of Redick himself, it's just not realistic given the dual track records above to expect Redick to truly be calling the shots in the most head coaches in most situations do, imo. We will see--but I think you're running against a pretty strong pair of currents on this one
Redick isn’t going to fully control LeBron nor should he or any coach for that matter. Owners are always going to stick their nose into basketball ops so this is nothing new either. Ainge had Wyc draped all over him each draft night having to approve everything he did. This is common:

So when I say calling the shots I’m referring to running his team on the floor. Did anyone not see Redick pull LeBron early in the Lakers final exhibition game then specifically call out “certain guys” in the presser when one of the two “guys” who were guilty of his acts that were pulled early was LeBron?
 

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I don't doubt that Redick thinks this is a normal coaching job---I just don't think that is how this season has, or will, actually play out!
 

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you guys should do some charity bets on how much run Bronny will get. At this point you're not even arguing, just asserting opinions back and forth. An argument is more than just contradictions!
 

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I don't doubt that Redick thinks this is a normal coaching job---I just don't think that is how this season has, or will, actually play out!
Aside from 3 min of father/son duo which had already baked in, what has been abnormal about this season thus far? The Lakers return their entire core without having to integrate anyone, had a normal camp, coaches had to call out his guys once, they won their home opener. That’s about as normal as any NBA team.
 

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Aside from 3 min of father/son duo which had already baked in, what has been abnormal about this season thus far? The Lakers return their entire core without having to integrate anyone, had a normal camp, coaches had to call out his guys once, they won their home opener. That’s about as normal as any NBA team.
So, other than the thing that is totally abnormal what is abnormal? Cmon, you're better than that. Everything about Bronny is completely ridiculous and wouldn't be happening other than the dynamics I'm alluding to. And we have no idea what it's impacting or what happened in practices, etc. around it.
 
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So, other than the thing that is totally abnormal what is abnormal? Cmon, you're better than that
What I mean is that this isn’t some shocking thing that caught him off guard. This was happening whoever the coach was, we all knew this. It lasted 3 minutes lol. It’s over. G-League is starting soon.
 

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What I mean is that this isn’t some shocking thing that caught him off guard. This was happening whoever the coach was, we all knew this. It lasted 3 minutes lol. It’s over. G-League is starting soon.
OK, that's fair. Though what exactly happens next is not to me certain - I do think he'll be sent down, but from there I think it's still an unknown.

Running a camp with this going on, and starting the season with it, is 0% normal. So that's evidence of my broader point---there's weird dyanmics going on here
 

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OK, that's fair. Though what exactly happens next is not to me certain - I do think he'll be sent down, but from there I think it's still an unknown.

Running a camp with this going on, and starting the season with it, is 0% normal. So that's evidence of my broader point---there's weird dyanmics going on here
Meh I think it’s way overstated. He’s a late 2nd pick/G-League guy who was treated in the preseason like a typical late 2nd/G-League guy would. I think the fact that he it was clear over the summer that he wasn’t a threat to anyone’s job helped reduce any real weird dynamics. To me the future for the rest of this year is certain so that’s it. He may get a couple garbage min over the next few games but probably not even that, then he’ll be with South Bay for their entire season.

Edit: I will step back on “the entire season” after that announcement today as I did not account for G-League players often getting called up when teams are on long homestands to have them involved in film study, practice and individual instruction with the Lakers staff. That doesn’t change my opinion on him not seeing anything other than maybe some garbage minutes barring many many injuries.
 
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Meh I think it’s way overstated. He’s a late 2nd pick/G-League guy who was treated in the preseason like a typical late 2nd/G-League guy would. I think the fact that he it was clear over the summer that he wasn’t a threat to anyone’s job helped reduce any real weird dynamics. To me the future for the rest of this year is certain so that’s it. He may get a couple garbage min over the next few games but probably not even that, then he’ll be with South Bay for their entire season.
What's your confidence level Lebron has the same view of the above? Surely less than 100%, right?
 

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What's your confidence level Lebron has the same view of the above? Surely less than 100%, right?
Unlike some I don’t believe for one second that this is LeBron’s call. If I’m wrong I’m wrong but I’m pretty confident I’m not.
 

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Crazy talk imo.
Yeah I'd think the fact that he played just 3 minutes would be proof enough that the whole point was to give him and Lebron their moment on the floor together and then get past it as soon as humanely possible (which hammers home the ridiculousness of it all, but whatever). I think it's more likely that he doesn't see NBA action again this year than it is that he plays 40+ games.
 

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We should bet on over under Bronny appearances. I would bet over 20 and possibly over 41.
Take the Laker's under on WINs?

They want a full development year from Bronny in the G-League, & have coached the media they are going that way.

Possibly throughout 82 games, Bronny may get into 20 blowout games/minutes at the end of Q4, is that what you're thinking?

BUT the Opening Night, cameras out, James Gang basketball spectacle is over. The Q2 entrance/rotational minutes against a top WC team felt like a one-night event.
 

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OK, that's fair. Though what exactly happens next is not to me certain - I do think he'll be sent down, but from there I think it's still an unknown.

Running a camp with this going on, and starting the season with it, is 0% normal. So that's evidence of my broader point---there's weird dyanmics going on here
They had a chance to make history. Did you see what the Cs did when they had a chance to make (much less important) history?

It's unfortunate that Bronny is probably not at this point a NBA player but there are lots of guys on two-ways that are probably not a NBA player.

They got their history; now Bronny will be treated like any other borderline (at best) NBA player.
We should bet on over under Bronny appearances. I would bet over 20 and possibly over 41.
You mean NBA appearances? I think you will find a lot of takers for under 40. For basically as much money as you want to lose.
 

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Take the Laker's under on WINs?

They want a full development year from Bronny in the G-League, & have coached the media they are going that way.

Possibly throughout 82 games, Bronny may get into 20 blowout games/minutes at the end of Q4, is that what you're thinking?

BUT the Opening Night, cameras out, James Gang basketball spectacle is over. The Q2 entrance/rotational minutes against a top WC team felt like a one-night event.
I mean 2nd quarter minutes. 20 games. $100 to the JF if I lose.
 

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I was saying this last year a bunch too….but Keldon Johnson is hot garbage. He would barely see the floor on many teams.