The Nation's Tears: Volume II
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Agreed -- the only part I don't find immensely enjoyable is some of the emails from fans who are tripping over themselves to be the "cool" Pats fan who is quick to point out how insufferable every other fan is. Or maybe they are all from Samer.
Deadspin is pretty self-selecting, sure. You admit you like the team, you get the hate.
Oh well. First world football problems.
Oh well. First world football problems.
If not for the existence of Donald Trump, this would have been pretty thin. That's the problem when the team's methods and success, if not the players, are the same year after year after year. You run out of new material.
Boy is it ever.
This (and the subsequent paragraphs of the rant - I'll end my quote there, you should read it all) is the fairest criticism of Tom Brady I have ever heard, and criticizing him is quite a task. Give Magary credit, he's called Ballghazi exactly what it is since nearly day 1, and can still bring the hate without stooping to bullshit.
He spiced all the WYTS articles with a ton of politics this year. The series as a whole could likely use a hiatus for a bit.
“We’re only up by four touchdowns with five minutes left. We can still lose.”
“I wanted the shutout, I can’t believe we gave up a field goal in garbage time, what a terrible game.”
“We didn’t get the #1 seed in the playoffs? What the fuck is the point in anything, the whole season was a waste.”
Straight from a SOSH Pats game thread?
“I wanted the shutout, I can’t believe we gave up a field goal in garbage time, what a terrible game.”
“We didn’t get the #1 seed in the playoffs? What the fuck is the point in anything, the whole season was a waste.”
Straight from a SOSH Pats game thread?
It's funny, I wore my Pats hat to Disneyland back in April and everyone who talked to me about it talked about how much they admired what the Pats have done and how great SB 51 was. I got no hostility at all. Now, this was in Southern California, which either had no teams or shitty ones for the most past over the last generation, and it's Disney so people are looking to have a good time and not to pick sports fights, so it's definitely skewed. But still. No snark whatsoever. I was surprised.
This past year, I've noticed a change, too. Seems like there's just a begrudging acceptance that the Pats are great and people are starting to appreciate what they're witnessing, which was always my argument against the h8ters from way back: You're watching Ali or Pele. You can tell your grandkids about this someday. Enjoy it.
I just wonder if the reception would have been the same in, say, Pittsburgh.
Although I'm not gonna vacation in Pittsburgh to find out.
Although I'm not gonna vacation in Pittsburgh to find out.
I'm flying to Atlanta next week for work and I just don't have the heart to wear my Pats hat.
This did make me think about the fact that between IL and LI, they were able to craft two enormous win probability shifts.
It is really odd to me the Pats seem to get all of the dynsaty hate while other dynasties have avoided the animus. Am I wrong to believe it was in part due to challenging the sacred undefeated Dolphins, that coincided with the comments section taking over media? Could the fact the Lakers were media darlings in the Celtics Lakers rivalry? It is even shocking to me that the bandwagon clowns around here never jump on the PAts bandwagon. Everywhere there are guys hat traded the Heat jerseys for a Warriors gear, and the same guys just put away there Giants stuff for a Cubbies hat, and even were wearing Red Sox gear in 2013. but not Pats stuff. Very odd.
I mean in all honesty how can the Yankees not be the hands down most hated team?
I mean in all honesty how can the Yankees not be the hands down most hated team?
Not a single comment about the Tuck Game?
My father in law (live in Orange County) brings that up on a regular basis, and people comment on it now and then in NYC.
"Yeah but everything would have been different if it weren't for that bullshit play." Like, the Patriots and Brady wouldn't have done any of the subsequent things if that had been called a fumble.
Anyway, I'm surprised that you didn't get at least a little ribbing for that.
I think it's the 'cheating' narrative, to be honest, in large part. Add in the added media coverage in general, the #hottakez nature of espn, twitter, the boring nature of Brady and the animosity BB exudes, etc etc. when the Niners or Lakers or Cowboys had their runs, that stuff didn't exist. You'd grab a newspaper and be like 'wow, they won again'. You didn't get it shoved down your throat all the time. Add in the trumped up scandals - did anyone give a shit when Michael Irvin was using cocaine - and it's not hard to see, imo. Boston has also had a blessed run and the Pats have dominated for far longer than any other team imo. I don't find it any different than Yankee hate.
This point was made by Peter King in a recent SI article. SB 51 appears to be a tipping point.
And yes, people, the Cowboys were reviled. 'Merica's Team stuff really put people off.
Didn't the cowboys have a drug house? There was a lot that was rumored to go on with that cowboys team I thought.
Right, did it ever lead the national news? I don't remember the backlash like the Pats get. I was younger and can see it in certain areas of the country, but I don't recall it being as national. Or as irrational. Shit like a drug house didn't resonate like it would today.
Yeah. I was tying to your idea. Lots of crazy stuff with them want on. Only have a vague feel for it.
It was their "white house" because the house was painted white. It made national news IIRC but only on sports talk radio. The internet and the 24 hour news cycle and all these dedicated sites/hot takes have really evolved since then.
That is all I recall. It wasn't big news but I think I heard about it on some syndicated ESPN radio show at the time so if there were juicier elements it probably would have been censored.
So you're curious which fan base hates the Pats the most? Happy Friday!
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/who-hates-the-patriots-the-most/?addata=espn:frontpage
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/who-hates-the-patriots-the-most/?addata=espn:frontpage
Giants fans hate the Patriots the most; really?
They should love them as if it weren't for them gifting them two Super Bowls, they'd only have won two instead of four.
That's a joke.
Yes, that was surprising. Seeing the Jets so far down the list was too. I mean, BB was their freaking coach for a couple hours.
I've never understood the Giants hate but living near NYC and working in Manhattan, it's definitely there. I think most of it is related to the Boston vs. New York dynamic. If it weren't for the high profile of the Pats SB wins, the Giants would be a completely non-descript franchise. I mean, what was their identity pre-Scottish Game? LT? Parcells? Nobody outside of the NFC East cares about this team one way or another whereas the Pats and Cowboys are hated pretty universally.
Jets fans have surrendered at this point, they don't have the strength to muster any sort of hate.
Think France in 1940 when the Germans went around the Maginot line.
They have not surrendered enough to stop trying to make a profit on those Patriots tickets. They are more than double what I paid last season...
That's really what it is. From my experience they see the Giants wins over the Patriots as payback for the '04 Red Sox beating the MFYs.
I think that's most of it. It bothers New Yorkers that the golden boy of the NFL plays for a Boston (area) team.
Thanks for posting, thats funny as helll.
I sent it to a Jets buddy.
He emailed me back, "I hate you"
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