Love this kid.I know it doesn’t mean much (until it’s time to talk Hall of Fame candidacy), but it’s pretty cool that the Patriots just drafted a rookie QB, who started every game, led the team to 10 wins and a playoff berth, and then made the Pro Bowl.
Not a bad start to his career.
I believe he and Trevor Lawrence set a new NFL record for most games started by a rookie QB. And his alone counting playoffs.I know it doesn’t mean much (until it’s time to talk Hall of Fame candidacy), but it’s pretty cool that the Patriots just drafted a rookie QB, who started every game, led the team to 10 wins and a playoff berth, and then made the Pro Bowl.
Not a bad start to his career.
True about the regular season (of course), but Joe Flacco in 2008 started all 16 regular season games and 3 postseason. Mac matched Sanchize (15 & 3) and Russell Wilson (16 & 2) for second, as far as I can tell.I believe he and Trevor Lawrence set a new NFL record for most games started by a rookie QB. And his alone counting playoffs.
To bring home the point of the first sentence, between starters, backups, and alternates, 9 QBs made the Pro Bowl this year.I know the Pro Bowl is silly and making it (especially as an alternate) is pretty meaningless, but it's good to see how much fun Mac appeared to be having. Between what's been reported from his time at Alabama, his Belichickian pressers, and the little stuff like the girlfriend walkthroughs and this weekend that make it clear he loves football, you've gotta come out of year 1 feeling optimistic that they got a guy who will put in the work to be great. Don't want to read into puff piece stuff too much, but I couldn't be more excited to see what he looks like with a full offseason of development (and an NFL level strength and conditioning program).
As someone who can't bring themselves to cheer for Mahomes, I thought the video humanized him.. which I hated. Unrelated but was Kyler Murray even mic'd up? They showed him a ton in that video but I can't say anything he said/did stood out at all.Mahomes seems about as interesting as BB. Maybe less so
This. Really enjoyed it, you can see why players seem to gravitate towards Mac.When I clicked play on a 20 minute video about the pro bowl I didn't expect to watch the whole thing but man was that a lot of fun. Mac had to be like 10 minutes of it alone. Mahomes comes off super likable, too.
It seems very likely that Jones can improve, but how much he can improve remains to be seen. But, for him, every little bit will help.“From what I know about dealing with quarterbacks and pitchers, when they show up, very few of them have maxed out their genetic capacity to throw,” he said on NBC’s Patriots Talk podcast with Tom Curran this week.
House, who has worked with Tom Brady, Cam Newton and a bevy of other passers and pitchers in his time, described Jones’s current throwing process as “efficient” and “accurate” while not generating a ton of velocity. But the instructor also told Curran he could work with Jones to improve the young quarterback’s “arm speed and his arm distance” with a little training.
The difference is that Mac is young and can still rewire things. House talked about the age range for relearning things with Phil Perry. Cam was out of it. Mac was in it.I"m hopeful that House can help maximize Jones' potential, but he (Tom House) went on the same podcast about this time last year and told everyone that Cam Newton's throwing problems were completely caused by issues with his feet that prevented him from planting and throwing properly, and that he was going to come into training camp looking completely different.
Yeah he needs to work on his body, but job 1 will really be improving his mechanics. If it isn't confirmed who he's working with, it will eventually come out.Job #1 for Mac is working on his body. He's soft and admits to liking ice cream too much. I'm hoping he undergoes a Brady-like renaissance, but it's not at all a given he will.
Okay, thanks. I figured that injured guys might not make the effort, but I guess there's some value in interviewing in person.I heard that Williams is there, but obviously not working out.
I'm not a fitness expert or anything, but man do I hate these fancy compound exercises. Just doesn't seem like an efficient way to build muscle while avoiding injuries.
The thing that bothers me the most is that he is working out at the Bama facility under the guidance of a college strength coach when he has an NFL facility with NFL staff available in Foxboro. Maybe the Bama staff was coordinating with the Patriots staff but it's not a good look. He is not in college anymore and he doesn't live in Alabama so why is he training there.I'm not a fitness expert or anything, but man do I hate these fancy compound exercises. Just doesn't seem like an efficient way to build muscle while avoiding injuries.
Muscle is one of the ways you build functional kinetic power. The other is mechanics. Obviously guys don't need to be ripped to have a strong arm, but as we've seen that doesn't really come naturally to Mac, so he does need to build some lean muscle mass in my view. Aside from that, I watch that exercise and it just seems mechanically complex, which could lead to a higher chance of injury.Is the goal to build muscle, or is it to build functional kinetic power?
I don't like that particular exercise either. The lower body part is fine but not the upper body finish. It would be a great exercise for training a shot putter, not so much for a QB.Muscle is one of the ways you build functional kinetic power. The other is mechanics. Obviously guys don't need to be ripped to have a strong arm, but as we've seen that doesn't really come naturally to Mac, so he does need to build some lean muscle mass in my view. Aside from that, I watch that exercise and it just seems mechanically complex, which could lead to a higher chance of injury.
I know some higher level college pitchers that would do similar landmine exercises to build arm strength.I don't like that particular exercise either. The lower body part is fine but not the upper body finish. It would be a great exercise for training a shot putter, not so much for a QB.
I can’t tell the brand, but I doubt that’s a 45. Maybe a 25 max. Even at 45, it’s light weight for a full body exercise that mimics all the muscles that have to fire in sequence to throw a football. I don’t see any danger in the exercise, especially compared to heavy squats and Olympic lifts, not do I think that 15 second clip gives real insight into his total regime nor do I think it makes sense for either of us to really think we know something a D1 strength coach wouldn’t.Too light? That appears to be a 45 lb plate with either a five or 10 lb rubber plate, plus about 1/3-1/2 of the bar weight. He’s doing some kind of weird modified snatch/overhead press where he’s twisting through his hips and stopping on a dime, loading probably 60-70lbs of that weight directly on his right shoulder, left hip, and pushing through his heel and Achilles. That’s a lot of weight for a kid that’s also probably carrying an excess of 20 lbs of body fat and doesn’t *appear* to have all that much strength and athleticism to begin with.
I know you’ve trained as a boxer and have your own opinions, which you are entitled to. But I also have a very extensive athletic, group training, and personal training background (I work with no less than 110-120 clients every week, including some current and former pro and semi-pro athletes) and would never run a slightly overweight kid through those types of movements.
I understand your comparison to Brady, but Brady was also so dedicated to mobility and flexibility (or as he marketed it, pliability) that IIRC he rarely even touched heavy weights in the second half of his career. But he also had size - naturally - that Mac doesn’t have, which is why I think he should focus on more compound movements with supplemental power yoga to start building more athleticism (without the weights for now).
Any power lifter looks at that weight and rolls their eyes. But in context to Mac’s build, athleticism, age, and the explosiveness of the movement itself, I think that’s an incredibly risky movement for him to be playing with when there are so many other movements that would both protect him physically and help him progress into year 2.
Again, I respect your opinion. We are just looking at it two different ways. Ask any 10 fitness trainers how to best accomplish “X” and you’ll get 10 different answers. But that’s just my 0.02, which may not mean much.
The landmine exercise in and of itself is not the problem and it can be a good way to build deltoid strength. However, If you are a pitcher or QB, using that device properly to protect the rotator cuff is key. That means avoiding elevating the shoulder above 90 degrees and lifting slowly. If you watch this guy's video at 1:10, 2:10 and 2:50 you can see what I mean. The weight is only the bar itself or 1 plate and his shoulder never goes above parallel to the floor and this guy has some major delts. That "over elevation" is the part of Mac's exercise that I don't like. Not to mention that the pushing motion at the end has no functional application to throwing. He is elevating beyond 90 and doing so in a poorly controlled manner (too fast). There are many ways to train fast twitch fibers that are safe and functional to strengthen throwing muscles. Mac's exercise is not a particularly good one to accomplish that goal.I know some higher level college pitchers that would do similar landmine exercises to build arm strength.