The Martian Is Wounded: The Jasson Dominguez Thread

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Jasson hitting .187 so far in June with a .303 OBP and .636 slug in 75 ABs. Dropped from season-high .212 to .198 BA over past few days after going 1-for-19.
 

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I can't seem to figure out how to look at monthly results on fangraphs, but I assume you mean 0.636 OPS? That would be a slightly depressed version of his OPS to-date. But, maybe his few hits on the month are going for crazy power?
 

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Do you guys think Jasson was maybe promoted a bit too aggressively? He obviously was crushing A+ pitching but had less than 200 PA. Edit: maybe he's just been unlucky so far, with a BABIP of 0.246. If he resumed his mid-.300 BABIP from a/A+ he'd maybe be right back to his previous battig levels, or close enough anyway to not be concerned.
 
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Do you guys think Jasson was maybe promoted a bit too aggressively? He obviously was crushing A+ pitching but had less than 200 PA. Edit: maybe he's just been unlucky so far, with a BABIP of 0.246. If he resumed his mid-.300 BABIP from a/A+ he'd maybe be right back to his previous battig levels, or close enough anyway to not be concerned.
He is second in the league in walks with 50 (the guy ahead of him is four years older), I wonder how much he is expanding the zone and swinging at bad pitches because the league refuses to throw him strikes. I definitely don't think he was promoted too aggressively, I do think Volpe was promoted too aggressively because of the new draft pick rules if a player wins Rookie of the Year
 

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Do you guys think Jasson was maybe promoted a bit too aggressively? He obviously was crushing A+ pitching but had less than 200 PA. Edit: maybe he's just been unlucky so far, with a BABIP of 0.246. If he resumed his mid-.300 BABIP from a/A+ he'd maybe be right back to his previous battig levels, or close enough anyway to not be concerned.
I think whenever you sign a teenager this young, the developmental curve is not always straight to the top. Jasson also lost at least a year to Covid restrictions. We see test results for how Covid negatively affected high school students. I suspect the same logic can be applied to teenage professional baseball players. Huge learning curve, and then throw in cultural obstacles like learning to speak English. Dominguez might not reach majors until he is 23.
 

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Still hot. Three hits last night, including ninth-inning double that plated both runs in 2-0 win over Akron.

From MILB.com:

Of Dominguez’s four three-hit games, three of them have come in his last nine games. Over this stretch, Dominguez is 15-for-39, slashing .385/.455/.487 with 9 RBI, 5 BB and 4 SB.
 
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Today he is 2-4 with a BB, a HR, 4 SBs and 4 runs scored, now that's a full day. Up to 34 SBs now for the season in 366 ABs...
 

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Today he is 2-4 with a BB, a HR, 4 SBs and 4 runs scored, now that's a full day. Up to 34 SBs now for the season in 366 ABs...
He can fill up a box score. Moved to leadoff a few games back. That might be his best spot in the order.
 

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After 3 hits last night, Dominguez is now hitting .243 in AA ball, which doesn’t sound like much until you remember he was under .200 in late June. Hitting .433 in August after .309 in July. Has 13 HRs, 33 SBs. Been batting leadoff this month, which seems like a perfect fit. This resurgence could merit a promotion to Scranton in late August, or Yankees can just let Jasson savor his success, and get some ABs in winter ball back home in the DR.
 

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It seems like Pereira will get promoted after the 18th or 19th, which will give NY an extra year control on him, so possibly then Dominguez will go to AAA. He needs to be added to the 40 man after the season, I think he's a strong candidate to open the season with NY next year like Volpe did this year. Volpe spent most of last year in AA, promoted to AAA on Sept 2.
 

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It seems like Pereira will get promoted after the 18th or 19th, which will give NY an extra year control on him, so possibly then Dominguez will go to AAA. He needs to be added to the 40 man after the season, I think he's a strong candidate to open the season with NY next year like Volpe did this year. Volpe spent most of last year in AA, promoted to AAA on Sept 2.
Yes, and Volpe has struggled at the plate. One could make the case that he was rushed.

Hope you are right about next year. Some elite prospects breeze thru AA ball. Jasson struggled for 3 months. But now with two excellent months behind him, AAA looms.

Can’t wait for the day Pereira and Dominguez are playing side by side in Yankee Stadium with Judge patrolling RF and DH.
 

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If we're rolling out 2 fresh prospects next year and Volpe and maybe Peraza, they better really find other ways to improve the lineup or a lot is riding on a couple of lottery tickets.
 

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Yes, and Volpe has struggled at the plate. One could make the case that he was rushed.
The new CBA encourages this, because if you have a consensus top 100 prospect who spends the entire season with the MLB team and they win Rookie of the Year, you get an extra high draft pick plus extra draft spending ability. Without this rule, IMO no way Volpe spends the entire season with NY this year and that's why I think Dominguez has a good chance to do so next year.
 

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Wouldn't a club have a better chance of turning out a ROY candidate if they promoted them less aggressively? Wait a little longer until you know the kid is ready and then put him on the starting roster to open the next season. It seems like even a super talented youngster could have trouble competing for that singular honor against a more seasoned and experienced rookie.

Obviously there are risks there because you might be wasting time that the kid could be producing at the major league level.
 

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Wouldn't a club have a better chance of turning out a ROY candidate if they promoted them less aggressively? Wait a little longer until you know the kid is ready and then put him on the starting roster to open the next season. It seems like even a super talented youngster could have trouble competing for that singular honor against a more seasoned and experienced rookie.

Obviously there are risks there because you might be wasting time that the kid could be producing at the major league level.
This is what the Astros did with Jeremy Pena, who turned 25 in his rookie season as opposed to Volpe's 22 this year. That's a lot easier to do when you have Carlos Correa ahead of him on the depth chart though.
 

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Yeah. Nice to have options. Going with Peraza at SS this year would have been a roll of the dice too. I guess I'm a little wistful that we didn't get to see more of that, though honestly, at least according to DRS, Volpe has been more than fine at SS. Great even.

Guess maybe he really isn't an above average SS and potentially great 2B. He's better.
 

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Volpe has to learn Rizzo’s two-strike approach to hitting. It doesn’t take a genius to lift his contact rate. The rookie rarely deviates from his big swing. I think back to Jeter, whose hitting approach favored up the middle and right field strokes. Times have changed from Jeter’s first year to today.
 

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Volpe has to learn Rizzo’s two-strike approach to hitting. It doesn’t take a genius to lift his contact rate. The rookie rarely deviates from his big swing. I think back to Jeter, whose hitting approach favored up the middle and right field strokes. Times have changed from Jeter’s first year to today.
Also bunt once in a while, I figured he just couldn’t but the one I saw him try was beautiful. And with the new rules, he should look to steal basically everytime it’s possible.
 

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Took in the Somerset Patriots vs Binghamton Rumble Ponies game today to see Dominguez and Acuna in person.

I was not impressed with Scuna at the plate at all. Had the same drip as his brother but really just made soft contact. Dominguez on the other hand, absolutely smoked two oppo line drives for base hits, the second one turned in to a hustle double. He really runs hard out of the box and stole 2 bases with ease.

The lineups for both teams were hot garbage with half of each lineup having sub .600 OPS. It was a 11:00 am start after a night game so that might just be guys getting off days.

Blade Tidwell for the Rumble Ponies looked pretty solid. Pitched in to the 8th with 7Ks and zero walks…. Sitting 96 all day.
 

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Took in the Somerset Patriots vs Binghamton Rumble Ponies game today to see Dominguez and Acuna in person.

I was not impressed with Scuna at the plate at all. Had the same drip as his brother but really just made soft contact. Dominguez on the other hand, absolutely smoked two oppo line drives for base hits, the second one turned in to a hustle double. He really runs hard out of the box and stole 2 bases with ease.

The lineups for both teams were hot garbage with half of each lineup having sub .600 OPS. It was a 11:00 am start after a night game so that might just be guys getting off days.

Blade Tidwell for the Rumble Ponies looked pretty solid. Pitched in to the 8th with 7Ks and zero walks…. Sitting 96 all day.
Thanks for your insights. Running hard out of the box is nice to hear. My wish is the Yankees let the kids play and become a faster team, even athletic and fast as Peraza, Pereira and Dominguez join Volpe in the lineup.
 

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Thanks for your insights. Running hard out of the box is nice to hear. My wish is the Yankees let the kids play and become a faster team, even athletic and fast as Peraza, Pereira and Dominguez join Volpe in the lineup.
Spencer Jones is fast too, 27 SBs in 87 games this year in high A. Fully agreed that this is the future for NY, if I had my way it would have been happening sooner.
 

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Spencer Jones is fast too, 27 SBs in 87 games this year in high A. Fully agreed that this is the future for NY, if I had my way it would have been happening sooner.
Even Cabrera can be a useful piece of this coming era, assuming he figures out what big league pitchers did to him this year.

The replacements can never come fast enough.
 

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Thanks for your insights. Running hard out of the box is nice to hear. My wish is the Yankees let the kids play and become a faster team, even athletic and fast as Peraza, Pereira and Dominguez join Volpe in the lineup.
I’m a Sox fan vacationing at the Jersey Shore this week. Was really hoping The Martian was Yankee prospect hype. Bad news… the kid looks to be a real player and problem for years to come.
 

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I’m a Sox fan vacationing at the Jersey Shore this week. Was really hoping The Martian was Yankee prospect hype. Bad news… the kid looks to be a real player and problem for years to come.
Does he stand out physically? He’s listed as 5-9 and 190 lbs.
 

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Does he stand out physically? He’s listed as 5-9 and 190 lbs.
Super stocky but he really can move. And the opposite field hits were lasers. First one I believe as 0-2. Second one he came out of the box thinking two, kind of stumbled around first and just put it in to another gear. I thought he was out for sure.

I feel dirty gushing over a Yankee prospect.
 

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The interesting thing will be who sticks in CF among Pereira, Dominguez and Jones if they all end up making it, all three I think are adequate but not superb CFs.
 

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4-5 with 3 doubles today, OPS up to .781 now. He has to be in contention for league player of the month, although ideally he’d be promoted before 9/1.
 

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“Jasson Domínguez was named the Eastern League’s Player of the Week, Somerset announced via press release.

It notes, “In the six games versus Reading, Dominguez went 13-for-28 (.464) with 8 RBI, 8 R, 2 HR, 5 2B, 3 BB and 1 SB.“ “
 

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Promoted to AAA, hurrah! He could get to NY in September if he keeps raking, let's see.
 

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Devers blew thru AA and AAA in his age 20 season. He hit for average and power.

Dominguez had to learn how to hit AA pitching. Took him three months but he dominated for the final six weeks. Jasson might take a little longer but when you factor in his speed and his disciplined plate approach, he’s ready for Scranton.

All these moves today indicate that ownership finally is sick of the current big league roster. Cashman will be tasked with getting rid of dead wood and eating some of his mistakes.
 

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This is not a response to the above, to be clear.

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July 14 last year, Dominguez was still in low A. So he's now been promoted 3 times in 13 months:

40 games in Hudson Valley (high A)
114 games in Somerset (AA)

Think he will be in NY Opening Day next year, if not sooner.

He is the second youngest player in AAA, behind just Carson Williams, who jumped two levels for TB last week in the wake of the Wander Franco mess and may not stay up.
 

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Jasson 3-for-5 with 3 RBI in his debut with Scranton. One of the outs was a 103.7 grounder to second. Scranton leads Lehigh 14-1 in 8th and Dominguez is up third in bottom of the eighth. Edit: flied out to left.
 
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He finishes his first week in AAA with a .478/.556/.652 slash line, 1.208 OPS. No HRs but 10 RBIs in 7 games, the smoke around a possible Sept. callup is getting thicker.
 

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I'd be shocked if he isn't called up - there will be no reason for anyone to show up at the Stadium next month without someone like him to check out.
 

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Do we think they just let him play every day in CF once Bader is grabbed by another team?
Yeah, maybe him and Pereira split LF/CF so NY can get more of a defensive read on where they’ll fit.

Presumably Austin Wells is coming too, wonder how much they’ll let him catch.