The Sainz penalty is so stupid and I hope the rumor floating around that one team vetoed the waving of the penality is not true.
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I had no expectations, that was a fun race. There's far worse circuits on the calendar.
I read a rumor Liberty/F1 would like Vegas to replace Monaco, as the Principality keeps a lot more of Monaco's profits and has its own sponsors. I hope that doesn't happen, Monaco is a terrible race, but it's the sport's best event/spectacle.
I hope Williams can give Albon a slightly better car next year, he'd be in the mix.
I read a rumor Liberty/F1 would like Vegas to replace Monaco, as the Principality keeps a lot more of Monaco's profits and has its own sponsors. I hope that doesn't happen, Monaco is a terrible race, but it's the sport's best event/spectacle.
I hope Williams can give Albon a slightly better car next year, he'd be in the mix.
I think Vegas, over Monaco would be awful, over Miami sure. Max and Checo both bailed out by the timing of the SC, but LeClerc ran a great race to be honest, Checo getting pantsed at the end in back-to-back races, was pretty telling of his skill, since both competitors said they were able to see the weakness in Checo real time to plot and overtake. He gets P2, based on Merc not being good enough, but man he is not a great #2.
Albon and Gasly are both better than their machines show. They both really did belong in RBR just were too green and didn't have the leeway that Checo had since Max was able to run away. Next season hopefully is a bit better but really hoping things are a little more balanced in 2026.
Albon and Gasly are both better than their machines show. They both really did belong in RBR just were too green and didn't have the leeway that Checo had since Max was able to run away. Next season hopefully is a bit better but really hoping things are a little more balanced in 2026.
Friend just got back -- he's buzzing about it. After a terrible Thursday, he said that it was an amazing experience. He paid full fare tickets in the MGM zone -- middle of the strip. He said if he had it to do over again, he probably would not buy a 3-day ticket, but would try for the grid for qualifying and the grid or the sphere for the race. He had a great time and although he said there were all sorts of logistics snafus, he is thinking about doing it again next year.
Sounds like the drivers were not happy about the schedule either, but I think it's going to stay a Saturday night race. No idea if they will move it on the calendar, but I assume that it can't be move too much earlier in the year, since temperatures can be as high as 100 even until late September. The temperature drops very quickly in the desert -- there isn't much of a shoulder season and you never know when it will be.
I don't blame them the time slot choices were ridiculous, F-1 needs to decide if they want traction in the American market or not, if yes then european fans can take a back seat for races here in America. The thing i don't understand is they don't have idiotic time slots for the other 2 races here, i understand wanting the night scene but they could of easily gotten that with a 9pm est start time instead of 1am.
Except for Max running away with the championship, a pretty fun season. Every team scored points. 11 drivers stood on the podium. The Championship standings were on the line for four teams going into the final race.
Perez even Perez'd the final race. He was just awful the second half of the season.
I root for Williams and Sargent stinks, but Albon is very competitive. Norris and Piastri are legit. If F1 does some NASCAR-type finagling to decrease Red Bill's superiority, next year could be even more fun.
Perez even Perez'd the final race. He was just awful the second half of the season.
I root for Williams and Sargent stinks, but Albon is very competitive. Norris and Piastri are legit. If F1 does some NASCAR-type finagling to decrease Red Bill's superiority, next year could be even more fun.
Constructors was really close for second. Russell locks it up by a second, with Sainz unable to finish.
Vasseur (Ferrari team principal) said something along the lines of "we didn't lose second place in the constructors today". To me, the Ferrari was a faster car this year but they managed to beat Mercedes in the bad luck, bad strategy, and general foot shooting championship.
They would need to close the strip a lot earlier for a 9pm start. I don't think F1 is the sole culprit for the 1am start time.
I didn't watch the race, but it's unclear to me why Sainz was in the position he was in and couldn't compete to catch Hamilton. For all the fireworks in the top 4 to try to drop Russell into fourth, really the constructors P2 could have been secured with a decent race by Sainz. From the post-race commentary, it seems as though they made some tactical tire errors so I'm not sure how Vasseur can say that they didn't lose P2 on the day -- they held the tie breaker.
Sainz took top points in Singapore, and had a very good car, and still couldn't come out ahead of Lando, Hamilton, Alonso, and Leclerc. They had the better car and the tiebreaker, but Australia put them in a hole and they could not really ever dig out of it. Came close.