The issue is that the guy wants to redefine commonly understood framing in discussions of alternatives to eliminate arguments in favor of what people think is a more experienced, safer pick in favor of the less experienced, perhaps higher upside swing for the fences, instead of just engaging in the dispute over preferences on its own terms. Because “elite scheme design,” is the prerequisite, and, lo and behold, it’s the one thing his preferred guy has.
Plus by that point, in theory Maye would be developed. Brady had plenty of success under multiple OCs. Ditto Mahomes.
Really? I think McDaniels was a tremendous OC here. I'd take him back in a heartbeat.
How many former OCs took on the schematic and play calling responsibilities from day one of their first HC gig? I honestly don't know. My gut tells me that can be a recipe for a new HC taking on way too much, but if there are lots of examples of it working then clearly I'm wrong.
He rather seamlessly pivoted from Brady to Cam Newton to Mac Jones in consecutive seasons. 3 very different offenses with very different QB's. I'd also have no problem with bringing him back. There's also the added benefit that his HC days are over so he wouldn't be a flight risk.
Off the top of my head I'm pretty sure all of these...McVay, LaFleur, McDaniel, O'Connell, Reid, Taylor? Probably missing some
We might need to have a thread somewhere listing of all of the things that people on SOSH have compared apples to
I don't quite remember the terms of his canning by the Raiders but I think he was being paid for 3 more years and if he took a coaching position, any remaining monies were forfeit?
1) Maye
I think he definitely takes the job for exactly those reasons. I don’t think I want him to get the offer, but the idea he wouldn’t crawl over broken glass to get back into limelight seems very improbable.
I had forgotten that about McCown. That's interesting. Presumably Vrabel is familiar with LaFleur.
Another coach they could target is Wes Welker as the receivers/passing game coordinator. He coached with Vrabel in Houston and obviously played with him as well.
McCown clearly isn't though as Minnesota I don't think could block him.
Vrabel did it with Matt LaFleur as he was the OC with the Rams at the time so McVay did let him make that move.
Problem with it of course is those guys are usually just playcalling away from HC gigs so they often get sniped after 1 good year like LaFleur did.
Maybe you back stop that with someone like McDaniels as an assistant head coach/senior offensive coach in case you lose that guy.
I think Fairbanks announced he was leaving a week or two before their playoff game. Pats had had a very good season, 11 and 5, and were favored over Houston but got creamed 31 to 14, at home. Lame duck coach caused? The other thing I remember about Fairbanks is that he or his offensive coordinator put in quarterback option plays for Jim Plunkett, who wasn’t known as a running QB, earlier In Plunkett’s career. He finally got injured on one of those plays trying to run around right end. Later in his career with the Raiders, Jim won 2 Super Bowls, probably not running except for his life or on quarterback sneaks.
I remember Plunkett's departure as nothing short of a tragic event.
He went to coach at the university of Colorado.
Sounds right. Earl Campbell could run over you, no doubt. That was a really, really promising season though, like 1976, which also ended terribly (Ben Dreith).
If you give them an assistant HC title, I believe you can get around the issue.
I don't believe that's the reason. Glenn already has 5 HC interviews this weekend and the Pats put a late request in.
I’m not sure what your suggestion is here - Glenn declined. The pat’s didn’t cancel
I think he probably assumes that the late request indicates a lack of real interest. I doubt it he just decided to not to take an interview for one of the most attractive jobs in because it came a couple hours after the Raiders request.
Not going to speak for Commander Shears, but Glenn might have seen his addition to the list as an attempt by the Krafts to deflect criticism after the Leftwich/Hamilton interviews and/or he's heard through the grapevine that everything else is a formality and Vrabel's going to be the coach
That and with Kraft acknowledging fan reaction to Mayo's tenure played a small part in his decision to fire Mayo, Kraft may be listening to the fan reactions out there that the search is following a similar path to the Mayo hire.
That could mean he’s heard that Vrabel is the guy and does not want to waste his time. Or it could mean he might go to the Jets and does not want to share intel. Or it could mean that he doesn’t see NE as an attractive destination. Your guess is as good as mine.
My guess is he didn’t want his name associated with the sham. He didn’t complete the requirement, but he was added late in response to media blowback about the sham. (Edit - what @E5 Yaz and Dogman said sooner)
Whether it was a response to getting thoroughly ripped on TV, or a late change of heart... being added last minute and only you (so not an indication of a decision to do the kind of wide 7-10+ interview process most teams do) is probably enough by itself to make you think you don't have much chance. Add in the drumbeat that Vrabel is the guy from basically every media source (either it's done or... heavy favorite has been basically everywhere both local and national) and why waste your time, focus on the jobs you have a real chance to get.
