So Brady has one more Super Bowls than all other active QBs - combined?
OL are generally coached to take the inside guy because he has a shorter path to the QB. Brown blocked the outside guy and Ogbah just ran through the middle untouched. Mac's got the responsibility to get rid of the ball fast because there was going to be an unblocked rusher no matter what (Miami started rushing 6 against 5, though Andrews' man ultimately dropped), but he had no shot with the inside guy cut loose.
They don't have a fullback anymore so basically the only personnel groupings they have are 11 and 12, except for specialty stuff like goal line (which they never got close enough to use). I think this will be typical.
The overall numbers look really good but they were inconsistent week to week in 2021. The three 45+ point performances carry a lot of weight in averages. They scored under 20 offensive points in 9/18 games, by my reckoning.
Sorry--I reversed the sacks. I was commenting on the strip sack, where Jones came on the outside and Brown took the inside guy. You're right on the Ogbah one.
Like Perry said on that play Andrews has the DT, Strange has the DE and Brown is supposed to take the Linebacker or any other rusher from that side. Teams rushing later guys (usually corners or safeties) has been an issue for them since late last season and I know Brown allowed a sack on it last year I think vs the Colts.
Well it's a good thing they drafted a blue chip prospect who made headlines for an elite program in the first round here, rather than a projected third rounder! /s
As far as I can tell, this was relayed second-hand via Urban Meyer. I don't think "wanting to coach" is really about whether he personally likes them so much as whether he views them as coachable (the context of Meyer's comments was Meyers asking how Belichick was able to develop players). I also go back to these comments around the same time period:
I don't think it's about comfort or not wanting guys who challenge authority or whatnot. He trusts Judge and Patricia and knows he can rely on them on a consistent basis.
I mean he can rely on them to consistently not be good at the job he hired them for.
Agree with this, and to take it further, why wasn’t Josh’s successor either already on staff, or if he is, being prepared more aggressively to step in? JMD has been a perennial head coach candidate for years now. They knew he would eventually take an HC job. Seems like somebody (maybe Caley) should have been developed to step in, if they didn’t want to hire a short term external option like O’Brien. Instead of bring back 2 guys who between them, have something like 1-2 years of offensive coaching experience. I too worry about the effect of this arrangement on Macs development, given his physical limitations, and smaller margin for error than other, more gifted guys.
I agree, but tbf both Mick Lombardi (WR) and Carmen Bricillo (OL) went to Vegas with Josh
Too early to tell. The biggest issues Sunday seemed to be Trent Brown screwing up. He's supposed to be one of the best players on the team, but also maybe he falls into that not quite dependable bucket. The offense on a down-to-down basis wasn't great, but not a disaster either.
At various points in the last decade, they've had guys waiting in the wings who would have been more obvious successors to Josh. 2012 and 2013 they had George Godsey, 2014-2016 they had Brian Daboll, they had Chad O'Shea up until 2018, they had Jedd Fisch in 2020. But those guys all left for better opportunities while McDaniels stayed. So it's not so much a failure to develop coaches behind McDaniels as much as bad timing.
Honestly, I think it's early but we've seen enough to make some judgements, Trent Brown didn't decide to not run any play action, Trent Brown didn't minimize pre-snap movement. Trent Brown didn't even play in many of the pre-season games where they also ran garbage offense. Maybe Patricia is a good O-line coach (I doubt it, especially given how much players who have been good before struggled in pre-season), maybe Judge is secretly a good QB coach (again really doubt it), but I feel very confident in saying Patricia can't call plays at an NFL level... it's a hard skill, he doesn't have it.
I thought play selection itself was fine, had some qualms here and there, but that's bound to happen even with elite OCs calling plays. The lack of play action was jarring, but to me that's more of a function of the system, I don't think you end the day running two PA snaps if your offense is predicated on heavily incorporating them. I feel the issues you described have more to do with day to day coaching than play calling itself, and that's where I think Judge and Patricia's lack of experience impacts the team. Their gameday performance is secondary to me.
Feel like RPO and play action should be central to everything we do on offense, especially with 2 healthy backs who happen to be the best players we have on offense. I don’t have an idea of what Patricia is looking to accomplish on offense.
I agree, though they didn't run enough RPOs last year either though. This isn't necessarily about Patricia. Here's an article before last season on how they could use RPO with Jones to great effectiveness.
That 2nd one is weird, given the TEs themselves had pretty okay numbers. I would guess it's because they ran all those garbage screens?
I know this is a sidebar, but I think we need to appreciate that this is probably the craziest stat in NFL history. Brady has more SB wins than all the other active QB combined. This will never, ever happen again.
PA should help the line though, it adds uncertainty. Also, if you don't trust the line, run some RPO.
Do 22, 21, 20 (two RBs in shotgun or something), 10, empty just not exist now? I can understand not wanting to go with 2 RBs frequently, since neither of Harris nor Stevenson are exceptional route runners, but they have 4 quality wideouts.
These are all rare looks league-wide. 21 was 7% of snaps around the league in 2021, and if you look at the teams running it, it's all teams with traditional fullbacks. We got rid of ours. 22 was only 3% of snaps; unsurprisingly, the teams running the most snaps of that were the same teams with fullbacks. 10 is even fringier, just 2% of snaps, with 18/32 teams running less than 10 snaps all of 2021. None of these are things team run much of. That we ran 0 snaps of 10 personnel instead of the what amounts to a league average of 1 snap is hardly worth commenting on (especially when we paid two TEs a ton of money).
To make matters worse. Curran actually said he was late to a meeting. In fact he said slightly late. That is much different (and less egregious IMO), than actually missing or not showing up for the meeting.
Maybe, but Patricia with the Lions was known for that stuff, and Bill isn't exactly a "no worries" guy either. Bill likely doesn't want to undercut Patricia, but yeah at some point keeping one of your better players off the field because your bumbling incompetent assistant coach is trying to prove some dumb tough guy point seems counter-productive.
Agreed. Belichick said as much. Also said he expects Bourne to get plenty of chances.
No chance Patricia buries Bourne all by himself. BB signs off on that 100% of the time it happens.
Notwithstanding the grumbliness of that column--"Belichick better make changes because Robert Kraft is mad as hell!" "Matt Patricia better get his act together and fast!"--I actually think this is exactly the kind of thing you'd want them to be doing: assessing how guys they didn't gameplan for actually performed when they got their chances. If they keep benching guys who deliver in crunch time, that's one thing. But we're not even at week 2.
I listened to the Bedard podcast (he is somewhat knowledgeable, does watch the games, does pick up things I might not) and to hear him speak there's chaos on the team, it's the worst Pats offense he's ever seen, it's apparent that some players are quitting on the team, Judge and Patricia can't connect with the players, BB is being a softy because he doesn't want to face the truth about how bad the team is,e tc. He and others are using the kind of language to describe the team that you would use to describe a 2-5 win team. Maybe they're right? I don't see it yet and I could be wrong but I still have faith that they pull it together to a reasonable degree this season.
There has been so much of this type of discussion dating back to the beginning of the summer, from so many different places, that it is very hard to ignore at this point, especially in lieu of a 7 point opening day performance in which the offense directly gave 7 points to Miami as a result of offensive line disfunction. I remain somewhat optimistic (it's my nature as a fan), but someone is clearly going to end up with egg on their face this season. Whether that is BB/MP/JJ or the media remains to be seen. But early results have me leaning toward the media being more right than wrong on this.
They obviously didn't play good or look good--but some in the media are playing the dysfunction up to the point that ithe media' observations will be wrong if the Pats are merely average or below average; if you keep saying they are completely incompetent on offense and they end up 8-9 and 20th in the league in offense you're wrong.
