The Dubs 2015-16: chasing history

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

I really want them to get 73,for no other reason than it pisses off Jordan. I also like a new GTOAT and the media declaring SC the GOAT so Kobe varnishes from the conversation immediately.

The problem with the record is that, ultimately, it is meaningless.

If you think that the Bulls won during a more difficult era, you will discount a Warriors 73 win team. And if you think this Warriors team is better, a few win delta shouldn't diminish or enhance that view.

Personally I want Golden State to end the Spurs streak simply because I want the Cs 40-1 to stand.

 

[JakeRae]

The problem with the record is that, ultimately, it is meaningless.

If you think that the Bulls won during a more difficult era, you will discount a Warriors 73 win team. And if you think this Warriors team is better, a few win delta shouldn't diminish or enhance that view.

Personally I want Golden State to end the Spurs streak simply because I want the Cs 40-1 to stand.

If records are meaningless, why do you care about 40-1 remaining the best?

 

[coremiller]

Wait, there are people (I mean, besides the guys who were players then) who actually think 95-96 was a more difficult era to dominate? I'd like to hear that argument.

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Wait, there are people (I mean, besides the guys who were players then) who actually think 95-96 was a more difficult era to dominate? I'd like to hear that argument.

Get off my lawn!

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

If records are meaningless, why do you care about 40-1 remaining the best?

Ha. I knew after posting that I would, justifiably, get called out for that.

I actually don't care that much but the answer is simply that I root for the Celtics.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

They have their hands full with the decimated Grizzlies tonight. Down 7 with just under 9 minutes to go in the 4th.

 

[luckiestman]

This guys can't be looking forward to playing Utah in round 1.

 

[DukeSox]

GS up

 

[BigSoxFan]

Curry ice cold

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Alive!

 

[BigSoxFan]

Definite foul on Thompson but I'm glad they didn't call it. Sets up a fun one tomorrow night.

 

[tbrep]

MEM down 100-99 with the ball and 8 seconds to go: Thompson commits a very blatant shooting foul against Stephenson but no call and GS hang on. Grizzlies have to feel hard done by there.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

MEM down 100-99 with the ball and 8 seconds to go: Thompson commits a very blatant shooting foul against Stephenson but no call and GS hang on. Grizzlies have to feel hard done by there.

Of course, Matt Barnes got away with a call shortly before where he shoved Harrison Barnes and Harrison was called for the foul. The NBA, where bad calls happen...all the time.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Fuck yeah

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Fuck yeah

Yeah. Fuck yeah!

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

First Warriors win in San Antonio since 1997. 33 straight regular season losses until now. As a side note, 40-1 stands for the C's

 

[luckiestman]

First Warriors win in San Antonio since 1997. 33 straight regular season losses until now. As a side note, 40-1 stands for the C's

An "aside"????

That was the only reason this game was relevant

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

An "aside"????

That was the only reason this game was relevant

Maybe for you, my never-nude friend but for some of us who are following Golden State a little more closely, it was indeed an aside. In fact, for the majority of NBA-heads, the Celtics home record is not even on the radar. That said, we got what we wanted...

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Motherfuck yeah

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

Deserved.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Deserved.

QFT.

 

[Old Fart Tree]

Dope. Fuck the Bulls.

 

[BaseballJones]

This team is just so fun to watch. Congrats to the Warriors for an incredible achievement. Now let's see if they can cap it with a title. I'd love to see Golden State vs. Boston in the finals.

 

[loshjott]

The 2007 Patriots have some advice for the 2016 Golden State Warriors

More accurately, Rodney Harrison, Heath Evans, and Donte' Stallworth have advice.

 

[Sam Ray Not]

I just orgasm'd...

 

[BigSoxFan]

You are going to frame that picture, aren't you?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

In fairness, its an awesome picture.

 

[Ale Xander]

Curry with sprained MCL, to be re-evaluated in 2 weeks. Don't need him to finish Houston, don't really need him for LAC or Port either, but they need him against Spurs, Cavs, or Celtics. So if it's 3 weeks until court time, they should be ok.

 

[BigSoxFan]

He's not going to be healthy the rest of the playoffs. The question is can he be good enough for the Warriors to beat San Antonio. This is looking like the Spurs' year unless they suffer a key injury.

 

[nattysez]

He's not going to be healthy the rest of the playoffs. The question is can he be good enough for the Warriors to beat San Antonio. This is looking like the Spurs' year unless they suffer a key injury.

I think the other big hit to the Warriors is that their "old guys" like Livingston and Iguodala will have to play more minutes. Even if Kerr tries to keep their minutes reasonable, as he's claimed he will, the chances that they wear down/get hurt increase as they play more. It would help the Warriors tremendously if Portland wins tonight and the Warriors win on Wednesday night. That'll give everyone a little extra rest.

I think Doc is going to deeply regret providing so much motivational ammunition to the Warriors. If Harrison Barnes decides to salvage his chances at a max contract by playing as well as he can for the rest of the playoffs and Klay manages not to disappear in any more games, the Warriors should be OK in the next series and could even give the Spurs a good series without Curry.

 

[Sam Ray Not]

Curry (knocking wood) would almost certainly be back for a potential matchup with the Spurs, though. A grade 1 MCL sprain was basically the best case scenario for the Ws. (Thank you, hoops gods!) Per UCSF, a grade 1 MCL strain "can take from a few days to a week and a half to heal sufficiently for you to return to normal activities, including sports." The Ws are officially saying "reevaluated in two weeks" but Bob Myers has already backtracked a bit and said he could come back sooner. I imagine they'll play it cautiously, but the WC Finals don't start till May 17, 25 days from now. If the Ws can get past the Clips/Blazers (and no more freak mishaps occur) I imagine Curry will be good to go v. the Spurs.

 

[Sam Ray Not]

LOL Glenn

 

[JCizzle]

If we were able to get a rebound in that fucking game we probably win the series though. At least from what I remember, I try to block that game from my memory as much as possible

 

[The Price Is Wrong]

If Kendrick Perkins is healthy we win game 7. No doubt in my mind. Hell, we made it to the 4th quarter with a lead in that game, with the corpse of Big Baby Davis taking up meaningful minutes at the 5 up against Pau the Llama. If you don't think the downgrade from 2010 Perk to 2010 Rasheed Wallace was worth 4 points there, I'm not sure what to tell you. That injury cost us a title, and a chance from preventing the Legend of Kobe Bryant from metastasizing, more's the pity.

The Dubs can survive being without Curry for an early round series far more than the C's were able to survive that loss at the end of the Finals. It's only a fair comparison because he'll be back by the time they really need him against the Spurs - and probably against the Clippers too.

 

[luckiestman]

You guys seem to be taking this pretty lightly. I think the Clips have a really good shot against a hobbled Warriors team.

 

[JohnnyTheBone]

If you don't think the downgrade from 2010 Perk to 2010 Rasheed Wallace was worth 4 points there, I'm not sure what to tell you. That injury cost us a title, and a chance from preventing the Legend of Kobe Bryant from metastasizing, more's the pity.

You make great points, but the game was handed to LA at the free throw line. The officiating in that game was criminal. The Lakers enjoyed a 37-17 advantage at the line. I didn't have to look that up, it's burned into my memory. That championship was hijacked from Boston much like the Patriots first round pick was this year.

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

It's only a fair comparison because he'll be back by the time they really need him against the Spurs - and probably against the Clippers too.

It's not a fair comparison. It's Kendrick Perkins compared with Stephen Curry.

 

[BigSoxFan]

You make great points, but the game was handed to LA at the free throw line. The officiating in that game was criminal. The Lakers enjoyed a 37-17 advantage at the line. I didn't have to look that up, it's burned into my memory. That championship was hijacked from Boston much like the Patriots first round pick was this year.

If I remember correctly (and I'm not going to look it up), the Lakers outshot the Celtics like 21-6 from the FT line in the 4th quarter. That game just flat out sucked. Rasheed played out of his ass in that one.

 

[Tangled Up In Red]

To be fair, yes, 2010 was bullshit.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

You guys seem to be taking this pretty lightly. I think the Clips have a really good shot against a hobbled Warriors team.

Well maybe but after CP3 hurt his paw and Griffin is gimpy, everything has changed.

 

[The Price Is Wrong]

You guys seem to be taking this pretty lightly. I think the Clips have a really good shot against a hobbled Warriors team.

They certainly have more of a shot than Houston, but based on Sam's info above Curry may be back halfway through an (as-yet hypothetical) Clippers series.

It's not a fair comparison. It's Kendrick Perkins compared with Stephen Curry.

He didn't compare the player, he compared the teams' situations.

No comparison is perfect, but some have value.

 

[luckiestman]

Well maybe but after CP3 hurt his paw and Griffin is gimpy, everything has changed.

I didn't know CP3 was out until this morning

 

[ifmanis5]

Their performance in the Finals has taken them off the table for greatest teams ever for me. The '86 Celtics, '96 Bulls etc. would not be consistently down 20 for long stretches of games the way the Warriors have been in the Finals. Even if they win Game 7, I won't remember them as being on the tip top elite level as some of the other teams that are routinely mentioned.

 

[tims4wins]

The 96 Bulls only won 4-2. If Green hadn't been suspended for game 5 this one might have been over in 5. Actually I think the better argument may be that it took GS 7 to beat OKC and were down 3-1.

 

[The Social Chair]

Double post

 

[ifmanis5]

The 96 Bulls only won 4-2. If Green hadn't been suspended for game 5 this one might have been over in 5. Actually I think the better argument may be that it took GS 7 to beat OKC and were down 3-1.

They are down 20 so often. If we are separating the greatest of the great, being down by large margins so often is a deal breaker for me. Maybe I'm being too Hot Take-y but I do feel that this is hurting their legacy.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Its an impossible argument. I know people who favor the Bulls or Cs make the case that this Warriors team couldn't play as well under the old rules and style of play. However that doesn't mean that those teams would match up well under the current rules and style of play either. I suspect Jordan's Bulls and the '86 team would struggle to play at a high level given the state of play in the current NBA.

 

[tims4wins]

They are down 20 so often. If we are separating the greatest of the great, being down by large margins so often is a deal breaker for me. Maybe I'm being too Hot Take-y but I do feel that this is hurting their legacy.

That's fair. The 86 Celts lost 3 playoff games - by 2, 12, and 15. The 96 Bulls lost 3 as well - by 3, 11, and 21. The Dubs have already lost 8 games - by 1, 12, 6, 28, 24, 30, 15, and 14. So clearly this is not one of the great playoff runs of all time.

 

[The Social Chair]

Their performance in the Finals has taken them off the table for greatest teams ever for me. The '86 Celtics, '96 Bulls etc. would not be consistently down 20 for long stretches of games the way the Warriors have been in the Finals. Even if they win Game 7, I won't remember them as being on the tip top elite level as some of the other teams that are routinely mentioned.

I think the Bulls are a better team but they never played any teams that year as good as Cleveland or OKC.

 

[tims4wins]

I think the Bulls are a better team but they never played any teams that year as good as Cleveland or OKC.

Seattle was damn good and won 68 games