The Awesome Red Sox Farm System in the first half of 2014

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I'm still building this out; plan to add reasons around the players and probably build up the list of maintainers. But, looking forward to hearing others' thoughts


Maintainers -- Under maintainers, I've grouped the players who have mostly played up to expectations and therefore maintained their prospect status about unchanged to the beginning of the year.

Alan Webster---seems on verge of becoming a riser; has been very good lately but I want to see a bit more sustained reduction in the walks
Henry Owens---as my #2 coming into the season, it would be almost impossible for him to rise. Certainly has been great and continues to be a must check in the boxscores
Blake Swihart---see Owens. Only concern is drop in walk rate. Nice increase in power makes up for it. Has certainly positioned himself to leap over Vazquez on the catcher depth chart.
Garin Cecchini---As mentioned below, could be a bit of a faller, due to lack of power and drop in average over the past 6 weeks. That would be a harsh reaction to his first professional slump though. Wait and see for now.
Christian Vazquez --- see Cecchini. Continued Lack of power suggests more likely to be closer to a backup on a championship team than a starter
Matt Barnes---struggling a bit after early season injury. Not overmatched though. Another one to wait and see.
Bryce Brentz---Not going to drop a guy who had a great spring training just for bad start prior to an unlucky injury. The Red Sox need him to develop.
Wendell Rijo---started out extremely hot, nearly matching Mookie Betts for the first month or so of the season. Has since cooled off considerably. However, remains among the youngest players in the SAL and with very respectable OBP/SLG numbers for a teenaged middle infielder.
Manuel Margot---See Wendell Rijo. Has more than held his own in an age appropriate league. Not excelling to the extent that you'd have him rising into a top 10 prospect placement though, and given that most had him in the mid-teens last year he's not really a riser.
Corey Littrell---unexciting soft tossing college lefty drafted in first few rounds having unexciting first full season at age appropriate Salem. Struggled with control for a couple starts, but seems to have recovered command. Meh.

Risers--To be a riser in this context you have to have significantly exceeded expectations and improved your stock since the beginning of the season; just having a good season is not enough to be in this category. They are roughly ranked in order of how much they have improved their stock, not necessarily by how good a season they are having (I didn't include DLR or Workman here, as some publications don't consider them prospects, but otherwise, they'd be here).

Mookie Betts --- starting in RF before the all-star game; self explanatory.
Rafael Devers --- I am normally loathe to rate 16 year olds very highly, especially on the basis of Dominican Summer League stats, but this one seems to be really, really special. Destroying a league not known for having players put up gaudy offensive numbers, and rumored to be headed to the GCL a year ahead of schedule. Will have to be ranked in your top 10 at the end of the season, even if he doesn't get another hit all summer.
Brian Johnson --- Has been nearly dominant in AA, after pedestrian career through 2013 partially because of injury. Though most prospect raters continued to high on him, prior to this season he could have almost been characterized as a bust. Now looks like he'll be a top 10 prospect in a system stocked with high minors pitching depth.
Anthony Ranaudo---Producing a low ERA in AAA and staying healthy means he's moving up my list. I almost left him on the maintainers list because of the elevated walk rate and occasional lack of stamina. But they paid huge dollars to sign him, so I'm succumbing to confirmation bias.
Devan Marrero --- As noted below, his emergence as a legitimate offensive threat in AA has to be considered one of the feel good stories of the year. According to a couple articles I posted in the Adopt a Prospect thread, the improvement reflects conscious adjustments in his approach and mechanics rather than merely a half season hot streak. Moreover, Farrell called his defense, "Just as effective as" Iglesias. If the hitting keeps up all year, he should be a top 5 prospect this offseason.
Travis Shaw --- Showing that his rejuvenation in the Arizona Fall League was for real. Earning the promotion to AAA is a huge coup for his development, and he's continued to produce despite the higher level of competition.
Steven Wright
Carlos Asuage
Reed Gragnani
Henry Ramos
Sean Coyle
Joe Gunkel
Jantzen Witte

Savers -- This group are the players who were probably one bad season from being released or relegated to backup roles around the system at levels that needed their skills, rather than getting opportunities to improve those skills. Yet, they are vastly exceeding expectations this year, though sometimes at levels they should have mastered a year or two ago.

Kendrick Perkins
Pete Hissey
Derrick Gibson
Jonathan Roof
Carson Blair
Aneury Tavarez


Fallers -- Prospects who have significantly lagged expectations or are falling behind age-appropriate levels for real prospects.

Drake Britton---from the precipice of Boston's bullpen in mid-March to mop up in Pawtucket.
Alex Wilson---see Drake Britton, regressed badly.
Pat Light---looks like a 2nd round bust
Cody Kukuk---just can't get the walks under control.
Ty Buttrey---I remember reading a quote somewhere that "if the kid you're negotiating with is acting as if the signing bonus is the biggest check he'll ever cash, walk away". Buttrey fits that statement so far.
Trey Ball---when the 7th overall pick has an ERA of 7 and isn't showing mid-90s velocity there's a big problem.
Teddy Stankiwicz --- similar to Ball. Performance hasn't been as alarmingly bad, but very inconsistent season in low-A despite a year of highly competitive JuCo competition is disappointing to say the least.
Dan Butler---like many at Pawtucket, not hitting at all
Alex Hassan---see Butler, though showing signs of life since his return from cup of coffee.
Forest Allday---only holding his own at Greenville despite being a 4th year senior sign
Tzu Wei Lin---not developing with the bat at all
Heiker Menesses---regressing with the bat, being lapped on the middle infield depth chart
 

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Great idea for a thread.
 
Blake Swihart probably belongs on the Risers list, not so much because of his offense (.292/.342/.480/.822), which is impressive enough as a 22-year old in AA (2.7 years younger than average for the Eastern League), but for his defense. Scouts are raving about him left and right, and he's thrown out 24 of 45 baserunners on steal attempts (54%).
 

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I know it's just the Eastern League... but 54% CS is ridiculous. I really feel like Vazquez is going to be the defensive minded backup and Swihart is going to be the guy they lean on and try to DH or play at 1B on days he needs a break from catching. SP just bumped Swihart over Henry Owens and named him the #2 prospect in the system. 
 

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Marrero putting up an OPS north of .800 is the most surprising development of the season thus far. With his glove, if he can hit enough not to be a black hole in the lineup, he'll be a very good player.
 

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I'd say Barnes has been one of the only disappointments in the upper minors and I'd put him in the fallers.
Last 10 starts- 51.2 IP 60 hits, 15 bb and a 5.06 ERA.  He was better the first few starts since coming back from injury but has gotten worse since.
 
I'd put Cecchini in the fallers list as well.  Pitchers don't seem to be afraid to throw him strikes now since he has very little extra base power.  His batting eye and hit tool are his best assets, and if he isnt a plus fielder, he's got to figure out how to drive the ball.  A .333 obp and .333 slg aren't going to cut it.
 
Brentz is another faller but in a SSS.   Disappointing that he got hurt in his age 25 season when it's basically put up or shut up time.
 
It's been rough watching Ball get his lunch handed to him.
 
Agree with Ranaudo being on the rise, I'd be just as comfortable with him making spot starts as any of the other guys on the 40 man.  He's basically ready now.
Webster is in the same category and may finally have his mechanics figured out.
 
It is nice to see Johnson be so consistent. He'd be bumped up to AAA if there were actual room for him.  He or Ranaudo may be a trade chip since they are so stuffed at the top.  He looks like a high floor innings eater #4,
 
Manuel Margot is a potential top of the order stud on the rise as a 19 year old in low A and may crack the top 10 by the end of the year.  A speedier JBJ-type in CF.
 

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HaHa I like the "Savers" group and that Kendrick Perkins is somehow back on the radar!
 
Where's Henry?  I'd put him and Webster in the Risers group because they have both made significant strides in their only major weakness, control, elevating them - IMO - to potential top of the rotation prospects.  Overall, the most impressive seasons so far have come from our talented class of 2014 almost-ready pitchers, a group including Webster, RDLR, Ranaudo, Barnes, Owens, and Johnson.  Coming into this year, I wasn't sure - despite all the talent - if there was anything  better than a future mid-rotation guy in the bunch, but all of them save Barnes have pitched better than expected.   
 

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If only we could combine Allday and Perkins. Asuaje is my favorite guy to follow and I wonder why he's still in A.

I'm guessing Mookie loses his prospect status so there could be a legit argument on who 1 is too, Swihart or Owens.

Devers and one of the Basabes are risers too.
 

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bosox79 said:
I'm guessing Mookie loses his prospect status so there could be a legit argument on who 1 is too, Swihart or Owens.
 
I would have definitely said Owens about a month ago, but Swihart is drool-worthy.  The worst thing you can say about him is that he doesn't walk a ton, but even with that he also doesn't strike out much.  He isn't even plodding on the bases at this point.
 
Owens still needs a little more work on his harder curve or maybe develop a cutter, but that changeup looks unhittable and his fastball is very hard to pick up.  His velocity has gone up a tick to 91-92 as well.
 

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Wait a minute on Vazquez' power. 
 
After an anemic May (.237./284/.263), Vaz seems to be coming out of a slump, with a .941 OPS in the last week. 3 HR so far in June after 0 through May. 
 
Maybe this is just a post-slump hot streak, or maybe he's made an adjustment.  
 

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rodderick said:
Marrero putting up an OPS north of .800 is the most surprising development of the season thus far. With his glove, if he can hit enough not to be a black hole in the lineup, he'll be a very good player.
 
Seconded. He's been extraordinary. 
 

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Marrero had a 21 game stretch from 5/20 through 6/14 when he batted .202 (17/84) with 12 singles, 5 doubles.He got his year's average up from .259 to .298 in 11 games. Are we seeing a hot streak following a cold streak and waiting for a regression to the mean? Or has he actually turned a corner offensively?
 

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Well Marrero's OPS before that cold streak peaked out at around .840... So who knows? The main difference is the power. If it's legit, hell... he could make a claim at 1, albiet a weak one. GG defense, good on the basepaths, and a .750-800 ops from SS?
 

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nvalvo said:
Wait a minute on Vazquez' power. 
 
After an anemic May (.237./284/.263), Vaz seems to be coming out of a slump, with a .941 OPS in the last week. 3 HR so far in June after 0 through May. 
 
Maybe this is just a post-slump hot streak, or maybe he's made an adjustment.  
 
Didn't Vazquez have one awful month last year as well (think it was either May or June) that made his full-year numbers look much more tepid than they were?
 
EDIT - Also, the only thing that makes me a little less sanguine about Marrero's performance YTD is his BABIP.  Coming into the year, his minor league BABIP was around .315 and his BABIP this year is 40 points higher.  Perhaps though he is driving the ball more and that is leading to improved balls in play performance?  33% of his hits this year are of the XBH variety, which is about 10% better than his minor league performance in 2012-2013.
 

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You can go back on Vazquez every year since Greenville, and that is the pattern. It takes him a while to adjust -- which is why no one should give up on the bat just yet, nor think that he is incapable of carrying the everyday job offensively. It's also one reason why the urge to bump AJ out of there might be tempered, unless the decision is one where defensive contributions matter more than offensive ones. If he is brought up now or soon, in other words, there's reason to doubt the bat in the short-term (and thus reasons to let him get fully adjusted to quality pitching in AAA). Not to doubt it in the long-term, I think -- just the adjustment period is a pretty standard part of his development path. 
 

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You can go back on Vazquez every year since Greenville, and that is the pattern. It takes him a while to adjust -- which is why no one should give up on the bat just yet, nor think that he is incapable of carrying the everyday job offensively. It's also one reason why the urge to bump AJ out of there might be tempered, unless the decision is one where defensive contributions matter more than offensive ones. If he is brought up now or soon, in other words, there's reason to doubt the bat in the short-term (and thus reasons to let him get fully adjusted to quality pitching in AAA). Not to doubt it in the long-term, I think -- just the adjustment period is a pretty standard part of his development path. 
IIRC Christopher Trotman Nixon showed a similar pattern. In fact didn't he start about 2 for April in Boston? Not that I am predicting Nixonian numbers for Vasquez, just saying it's not an uncomen occurance.
 

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Mike F said:
IIRC Christopher Trotman Nixon showed a similar pattern. In fact didn't he start about 2 for April in Boston? Not that I am predicting Nixonian numbers for Vasquez, just saying it's not an uncomen occurance.
 
Trot Nixon began his minor-league career in the Carolina League in 1994 and was batting .287/.390/.533/.923 through May 31. Then he hurt his back and his numbers dropped to .246/.357/.428/.785 with his season ending in late July when it was realized that the problem was a fracture. He started out well the next year in the Florida State League but his numbers dropped way down when he was promoted to Double-A. His back problems flared up and he only played 25 games with Trenton.
 

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Well Marrero's OPS before that cold streak peaked out at around .840... So who knows? The main difference is the power. If it's legit, hell... he could make a claim at 1, albiet a weak one. GG defense, good on the basepaths, and a .750-800 ops from SS?
I think in addition to the power we need to recognize that Marrero's BA:OBP differential has remained pretty consistently in the +.070 despite changing levels throughout his ML career.  AA is where many guys see their plate discipline and vision tested for the first time as in the lower minors simply being patient can result in a lot of free walks.  The fact that he's not only maintained with the jump to AA but also maintained despite BABIP and ISO surges that tempt many players into becoming free swingers during hot streaks is very promising.
 
A Deven Marrero would see his OBP differential drop into the 40-50 range as he moves up and who would hit .240-.260 with marginal power wasn't much to get real excited over at the end of last season.  Marrero with a stabilized 70 point OBP jump, potential to hit more like .270-.290, and solid doubles power while still playing elite SS defense is an entirely different, far more exciting, player.
 

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If Marrero in his prime posts a .340 OBP, that would place him 3rd in the majors among all shortstops, meaning his slugging would have to be of Ecksteinian propotions to fail as a hitter at that position.  Couple that with his defense and you'd have a multi-win player right off the bat.  If he hits in the .240's, you're looking more in the Adam Everett/Rey Ordonez territory - still a useful player, particular pre-arbitration, but not piece you build around.
 

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If Marrero in his prime posts a .340 OBP, that would place him 3rd in the majors among all shortstops, meaning his slugging would have to be of Ecksteinian propotions to fail as a hitter at that position.  Couple that with his defense and you'd have a multi-win player right off the bat.  If he hits in the .240's, you're looking more in the Adam Everett/Rey Ordonez territory - still a useful player, particular pre-arbitration, but not piece you build around.
That's always been the thought process with Marrero though, right?  That he's most likely an Adam Everett/Rey Ordonez type at worst, but prior to this season looked like a long shot to hit well enough to be more than that.
 
The first half of this AA season is his first big move to disprove that notion and be something more than that.  If he continues he goes from "worthwhile middle infield depth" to "one of the more promising middle infield prospects in the game".