The Athletic: The Astros stole signs electronically in 2017 part of a much broader issue for Major League Baseball

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Boswell: No ballplayer has more integrity than Cal Ripken Jr. He’s not too hard on the Astros.

“Teams seem to have forgotten how to solve the cheating problem.”


Oh, really, part 2. Do tell.


Between innings, Ripken said, pitcher and catcher agree that on a certain pitch, the signal will be for a curveball low and away. But pitcher and catcher both know that the pitch will really be a fastball up-and-in. If nobody’s cheating, nobody gets hurt.
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But if you’re striding out to get to a curveball away,” Ripken said, “and you realize at the last instant that it’s a high fastball that’s following you in, and your face is diving right into its path, your life passes before your eyes.
“Not too many guys want to ‘get pitches’ after that.”
 

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Is this going to be one of those “unauthorized biography” type series with no cooperation from MLB, or are we going to get player interviews and such. I’ll watch if Hinch and players are part of it, not so much if it’s just writers rehashing the events.
 

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LeBron kind of sticking his chin out there making a docuseries about sports cheating, no?
 

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Is this about his supposed extramarital affairs or speculation he's used PEDs?
My own personal suspicions about a guy that gains that much lean mass at that age while playing a cardio heavy sport while simultaneously losing his hair prematurely and then quickly loses it all. So, the latter.
 

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My own personal suspicions about a guy that gains that much lean mass at that age while playing a cardio heavy sport while simultaneously losing his hair prematurely and then quickly loses it all. So, the latter.
By 'that age', you mean high school or earlier even? Because he was pretty big even then.
 

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My own personal suspicions about a guy that gains that much lean mass at that age while playing a cardio heavy sport while simultaneously losing his hair prematurely and then quickly loses it all. So, the latter.
I'm not going to argue with you about weight gain as you'd know more, but I don't think it's been that drastic. He was like 6'6", 240# coming out of high school. I also don't know about the hair loss, he's thinning a little on the top, but he's not exactly Tiger Woods there. Jordan started losing his hair in his late 20s, he just shaved his head.
 

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I'm sure he'll tearfully accept responsibility, absolve Alex Cora and Hinch, blame nobody else, not mention the name "Mike Fiers", and announce that he's devoting the rest of his life to charitable causes.
 

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Former Astros GM speaks out in his first on camera interview airing tomorrow
I'm sure he'll tearfully accept responsibility, absolve Alex Cora and Hinch, blame nobody else, not mention the name "Mike Fiers", and announce that he's devoting the rest of his life to charitable causes.
Well, what a bleeping surprise...

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/30151774/ex-astros-gm-jeff-luhnow-again-denies-role-houston-astros-sign-stealing-scandal
 

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Wasn't Luhnow also the GM in St. Louis when the Cardinals were caught stealing scouting data via stolen e-mail passwords?
 

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Wasn't Luhnow also the GM in St. Louis when the Cardinals were caught stealing scouting data via stolen e-mail passwords?
Heh, this reminds me of how so many people think Danny Ainge was the one who bit Tree Rollins (in reality it was the reverse). Luhnow worked for STL and then went to work for HOU, and a couple years later, Christopher Correa, a STL employee, 'hacked' (I think he just knew someone's password) the HOU database.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-st-louis-cardinals-executive-pleads-guilty-to-hacking-houston-astros/
 

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Heh, this reminds me of how so many people think Danny Ainge was the one who bit Tree Rollins (in reality it was the reverse). Luhnow worked for STL and then went to work for HOU, and a couple years later, Christopher Correa, a STL employee, 'hacked' (I think he just knew someone's password) the HOU database.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-st-louis-cardinals-executive-pleads-guilty-to-hacking-houston-astros/
Thanks, I appreciate the clarity on that. I know I've googled it in the past but was probably just looking for an angle to hate Lunhow.

Fun note - most 'hacking' is either key-logging or DAT attacks that just guess passwords. The most vulnerable part of a computer is always the human at the keyboard.
 

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Lunnow is really a shitheel. He's suing the Astros over wrongful termination.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-11-08/astros-general-manager-jeff-luhnow-sues-sign-stealing
This is what shitheels do. Others are getting back into basball -- see Hinch & Cora. Nobody has given a crap about Luhnow's side of the story, so -- if the case gets that far -- he's going to force Cora and Hinch, and Beltran and god-knows-how-many- players to testify about what they did, to make his case that he was somehow treated unfairly.
This will end with Crane writing him a check before anyone testifies.