The 25 Most Important People in Baseball History

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Some of you may recall participating in Graham Womack's 50 best players not in the HoF project.  If you have and you're on his email list, you may have received a notification of his new project: a poll of the 25 most important people in baseball history.  If you haven't, check it out.  It's a cool project that seems right in our wheelhouse, and Graham's projects tend to attract a more intellectual/analytical audience, so the results should be interesting.
 
The criteria is intentionally vague, and so the definition of "important" is up to you.  Details and a link to the ballot are here: http://baseballpastandpresent.com/2014/09/22/vote-25-important-people-baseball-history/
 
For what it's worth, here's my flawed ballot.  I tended towards performance as a tiebreaker, but there is still a strong contingent of non-players on my list.  (I could not in good conscience fit Pedro.)
  • A. Bartlett Giamatti
  • Alexander Cartwright
  • Babe Ruth
  • Barry Bonds
  • Bill James
  • Bowie Kuhn
  • Branch Rickey
  • Curt Flood
  • Cy Young
  • Dr. Frank Jobe
  • Earl Weaver
  • Frank Robinson
  • George Steinbrenner
  • Hank Aaron
  • Jackie Robinson
  • Kenesaw Mountain Landis
  • Lou Gehrig
  • Marvin Miller
  • Pete Rose
  • Roberto Clemente
  • Satchel Paige
  • Ted Williams
  • Tony LaRussa
  • Walter Johnson
  • Willie Mays
 
 
 

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Vin Scully would represent a part of the game not covered by your list
 

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I nominate Sadaharu Oh. He was the single reason for not only the popularity of baseball in Japan, but throughout Asia. Career 868 homers, played from 1959 to 1980, and holds a stellar .301 career batting average.
 
Stats aside, it is his work as a baseball ambassador that is most worthy of this list. He would travel to Korea, Taiwan, and other parts of Asia (remember this was when Japan had the only professional league and HS baseball was still the biggest draw in Japan & in Korea) giving interviews, clinics, and youth workshops. 
 
Every kid in Asia growing up who played baseball imitated his unique stance and pretended to hit one out bottom of the 9th. He was Babe Ruth to us.
 
Sure he didn't get to play in the majors, but I think the list would be incomplete without Oh.
 

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Albert Spalding, Harry Wright, and Henry Chadwick are all on the top 10 list for what they did to develop the game in the19th century, let alone the top 25 list. Horace Wilson, who introduced the game to Japan (and thus to all of Asia) and Nemisio Guillo, who introduced the game to Cuba (and thus the rest of the Caribbean) need to be on the list too.  Honestly, when it comes to "most important," I think pioneers like these guys have a better claim than people like Ted Williams and Willie Mays who were really fucking good but didn't really change anything.
 

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Orel Miraculous said:
 Ted Williams and Willie Mays who were really fucking good but didn't really change anything.
 
This isn't fair to Williams at all.  His HOF acceptance speech in '66 pretty much forced baseball's hand when it came to recognizing Negro League players.  There is a very good chance that without William's speech, we wouldn't know who Oscar Charleston is today.
 

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This isn't fair to Williams at all.  His HOF acceptance speech in '66 pretty much forced baseball's hand when it came to recognizing Negro League players.  There is a very good chance that without William's speech, we wouldn't know who Oscar Charleston is today.
 
Errr, sure, fine. Ted's one sentence advocating for the inclusion of Negro League players in the HOF was admirable, and may have even forced the HOF to induct Negro League players five or six years earlier than they otherwise would have. But that hardly places him in the discussion amongst those who actually changed the game by fighting to integrate it.  As for Williams being responsible for us knowing who Oscar Charleston is today, he probably needs to get in line behind Robert Peterson, Buck O'Neil, Oscar Charleston himself, and countless other baseball historians and writers.
 
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Either Wilhelm (1st relief pitcher in HOF, not a hard thrower), Eckersley (popularized the position) or Gossage (can be an effective pitcher with just one + pitch), or 2 or all 3 of them.
 

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As others have mentioned, Cap Anson, Bill Veeck and Walter O'Malley. It's hard to believe MLB didn't have a team west of the Mississippi before 1958.
 
I think Giamatti would have made a big impact, but his time as commissioner was so short the only major legacy was Rose's suspension, so I'd drop him.
 
No matter what your personal opinion of him is, Bud Selig has to be on the list. 
 
A case could be made for Jose Canseco for being the PED whistleblower -- albeit a self-serving whistleblower.
 
I don't think he makes the cut, but Cal Ripken Jr. should make the "also receiving votes" category. People credit McGwire and Sosa for bringing baseball back after the strike, but Ripken shattering the record in 1995 began the healing.
 

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For better or worse, and with all his loathsome warts, I'd have a tough time leaving Ty Cobb off.
 

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I guess when I think about this list, on the field accomplishments shouldn't be an overriding factor. It's akin to the definition of "valuable" in the MVP debate. In this case, it "what did this person mean to the history of baseball and its place in our culture."
 
For that reason, thinking beyond the field, I'll throw a different kind of name into the discussion ... Peter Gammons.
 
Gammons began at the Globe in 1968, and it's fair to say that his growing influence in the game has made him the most influential reporter over the past 50 years of the game's history. The variety he brought to his coverage of the Red Sox -- the in-depth notebooks, the digging for off-season and in-season personnel moves, the emphasis on minor league systems -- simply didn't exist in baseball to any noticeable degree before Gammons. It's no coincidence that SI, ESPN and MLBTV and .com all brought him aboard first when broadening their own coverage of the game.
 
Important to the game on the field? Probably not that much. Influential in the way we enjoy the game? No doubt. I think if you polled GMs across the majors and asked them how many included Gammons' work as a necessity of their growing up as a baseball fan, you'd find more did than didn't.
 
I don't know whether he's in the Top 25, but he's in the discussion. 
 

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E5 Yaz said:
I guess when I think about this list, on the field accomplishments shouldn't be an overriding factor. It's akin to the definition of "valuable" in the MVP debate. In this case, it "what did this person mean to the history of baseball and its place in our culture."
 
For that reason, thinking beyond the field, I'll throw a different kind of name into the discussion ... Peter Gammons.
 
Gammons began at the Globe in 1968, and it's fair to say that his growing influence in the game has made him the most influential reporter over the past 50 years of the game's history. The variety he brought to his coverage of the Red Sox -- the in-depth notebooks, the digging for off-season and in-season personnel moves, the emphasis on minor league systems -- simply didn't exist in baseball to any noticeable degree before Gammons. It's no coincidence that SI, ESPN and MLBTV and .com all brought him aboard first when broadening their own coverage of the game.
 
Important to the game on the field? Probably not that much. Influential in the way we enjoy the game? No doubt. I think if you polled GMs across the majors and asked them how many included Gammons' work as a necessity of their growing up as a baseball fan, you'd find more did than didn't.
 
I don't know whether he's in the Top 25, but he's in the discussion. 
Agree. Last night I sent an e-mail to the author and lobbied for inclusion of Gammons in his 189 person master list.
 

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Either Wilhelm (1st relief pitcher in HOF, not a hard thrower), Eckersley (popularized the position) or Gossage (can be an effective pitcher with just one + pitch), or 2 or all 3 of them.
Jerome Holtzman would be a better choice than any of the three.
 

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Here were my 25:
 
Alexander Cartwright
Babe Ruth
Ban Johnson
Branch Rickey
Candy Cummings
Cap Anson
Charles Comiskey
Christy Mathewson
Connie Mack
Cumberland Posey
Curt Flood
Ed Barrow
Ford Frick
George Steinbrenner
Henry Chadwick
Honus Wagner
Jackie Robinson
John McGraw
Kenesaw Mountain Landis
Marvin Miller
Roberto Clemente
Rube Foster
Satchel Paige
Ty Cobb
Walter O'Malley
 
 
Notes on some selections:
 
- Alexander Cartwright is one of numerous people to be credited with founding baseball. Most of you know that baseball wasn't invented as much as it evolved from other games (most notably rounders) but Carwright had an influential hand in starting baseball as an American game. He established the Knickerbocker Base Ball Club in 1842, and would guide the development of "Knickerbocker Rules" which contained much of the same rules used today. They were the first rules to include foul territory, and they set up the field to be in the shape of a diamond, rather than a square which was used for rounders.
 
- Ban Johnson took over the Western League in 1894, and turned the struggling minor league into a major power, and eventually the American League in 1901. Anyone familiar with baseball history can tell you how many leagues failed in the late 19th century, yet one league succeeded in competing with the National League, and Johnson was the driving factor behind the league's success.
 
- Candy Cummings is credited with inventing the curve ball. According to Cummings, as a youth growing up in Ware, Massachusetts, he observed the way that shells curved when he threw them into water. He began to think about being able to force that curve onto a baseball. He reportadly threw the first ever curveball during a game in Worcester in 1867. Assuming that his story is true (and many baseball minds believe it is) he certainly changed baseball forever.
 
- Cap Anson isn't going to win any humanitarian awards, but he has to go down as one of the most important baseball people ever. During the fledgling years of the National League, many historians and contemporaries at the time believed that the league would have folded if not for the success of the Chicago franchise. From the orginal teams that formed the league, only Chicago and Boston (Braves) made it past 5 years. Anson was the first real baseball star, the leagues best player and manager, and his power within the game allowed him to make demands like refusing to take the field against black players. He was also an innovative manager, as his teams were the first to utilize such staples as having a third base coach, having fielders back up one another, using the rotation of pitchers (just two of them, of course) and the hit and run play.
 
- Charles Comiskey was a player-manager of the St. Louis franchise in the American Association, leading them to four straight titles in the 1880s. He also claimed to be the first 1B to play off the bag (a claim also made by Anson). As an owner, he deserves a lot of the credit, along with Ban Johnson, for founding the American League. Comiskey Park was considered one of the first truly modern baseball stadiums, and even him being a huge cheapskate greatly influenced baseball.
 
- I chose Mathewson and Wagner because of their influence on the game not necessarily on a talent basis, but because of their appeal. During that time period, baseball was a game for roughnecks, drunks and firebrands. Both Wagner and Mathewson, in addition to being all-time great players, brought a touch of class and proffesionalism to the game. Mathewson in particular, might have been baseball's first true superstar, and he also wrote the watershed "Pitching in a Pinch", perhaps the first real insider autobiography by a former player.
 
- Cumberland Posey played briefly for the Homestead Grays, beforing moving up into management and eventually owning the team in 1920. He turned the Grays into one of the most powerful negro league teams, and his team won eight out of the nine Negro National League championships. He was the most aggresive front office executive of his era, and probably the most important Negro League executive behind Rube Foster.
 
- Henry Chadwick was a sports writer who is pretty much the father of baseball statistics. He is credited with divising the first ever baseball box score, which appeared in 1859. He also invented the term "K" for a strikeout. He is credited with devising the metrics of batting average as well as ERA. He was also one of the first historians of the game and disputed the claim that Abner Doubleday founded the game.
 
 
One of the hard things I had coming up this list was figuring out how to attribute major events to people. While Jackie Robinson was obviously very important to the integration of the game, you can't really credit him without talking about Rickey. Same can be said for Miller and Flood. Steroids have had a profound effect on baseball, but who gets the credit for it's importance. Canseco for being the whistleblower? Selig for looking the other way? Bonds or McGwire for utilizing PED's the best?
 
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My ballot:
 
Players:
Babe Ruth
Cy Young
Honus Wagner
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Joe DiMaggio
Willie Mays
Mickey Mantle
Hank Aaron
Bob Gibson
Sandy Koufax
Hoyt Wilhelm
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Jose Canseco
Rickey Henderson
Barry Bonds
 
 
Players plus
Jackie Robinson
Roberto Clemente
 
Players minus
Pete Rose
 
Contributors:
Alexander Cartwright
KM Landis
Candy Cummings (curve)
Branch Rickey
Larry MacPhail (night, flying, consistent viewership)
Bill Veeck Jr. (promotions)
Bill James
 
Writers:
Henry Chadwick
Peter Gammons
 
Toughest omissions:
Pedro, Roger, Nolan Ryan, Josh Gibson, Satchel Paige, Buck O'Neil, Happy Chandler, Ty Cobb, Greg Maddux, Goose Gossage, Frank Robinson, Albert Pujols, David Ortiz, Christy Mathewson
Toughest inclusion:
Hank Aaron
 
Didn't include managers and Negro Leagues. 25 is tough. 35-40 is easy then it gets tough.
Light on pitchers, heavy on CF
Feel bad about Joe D in and Ted out, but I guess I'm overinfluenced by MFY mania today

Edit: Have to include Bill James
 
Wouldnt' be surprised if I felt differently in a couple days.
 

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I'm going to try and do this in roughly chronological order. I think by and large these people need to be off the field. I focused solely on the majors and professional baseball.
 
AJ Cartwright (I know there's tons of debate about just how prominent he was in codifying baseball's rules, but there's at least no doubt he was there)
 
Henry Chadwick (first baseball writer, inventor of the box score, ERA and batting average, tireless advocate of baseball)
 
William Hulbert (founder of the National League)
 
Cap Anson (all the reasons Kliq mentions)
 
AG Spalding (star pitcher, owner, NL strongman, founded some sporting goods company, don't know too much about that)
 
Ban Johnson (founder of the American League)
 
Christy Mathewson (first megastar, helped make baseball a respectable profession)
 
Chick Gandil (leader of the Black Sox)
 
Babe Ruth (exploded baseball's popularity after Black Sox scandal, American icon, made the Yankees the Yankees)
 
Kenesaw Mountain Landis (first commissioner, baseball autocrat, put forth an almost zero-tolerance policy on gambling)
 
Graham McNamee (first prominent radio broadcaster)
 
Larry MacPhail (night baseball, radio, built great franchises in Cincinnati, Brooklyn and New York)
 
JG Taylor Spink (founder and editor of the Bible of Baseball - The Sporting News)
 
Branch Rickey (yeah...farm system, Jackie Robinson, the greatest GM of all time)
 
Jackie Robinson (no explanation needed)
 
Bobby Thomson (the first great TV sports moment, televised coast to coast, the beginning of sport's love affair with TV)
 
Walter O'Malley (westward expansion, defacto Commissioner for most of the 60s and 70s)
 
Marvin Miller (leader of the player's union)
 
Peter Seitz (the arbitrator who overturned the reserve clause)
 
Bill James (sabermetrics)
 
Bud Selig (boy...a lot here. Collusion and the 1994 player's strike. Then the wild card, MLB.TV, huge TV contracts, etc)
 
Janet Marie Smith (the woman responsible for Camden Yards and by extension most of MLB's ballparks)
 
Hideo Nomo (first star Japanese player to play in MLB)
 
Barry Bonds (steroids)
 
Billy Beane (first real sabermetric GM)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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curly2 said:
As others have mentioned, Cap Anson, Bill Veeck and Walter O'Malley. It's hard to believe MLB didn't have a team west of the Mississippi before 1958.
 
 
Not that I disagree with your choices, but it's not really that hard to believe when you think about the state of (and cost of) air travel, which we take for granted today.
 

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Not that I disagree with your choices, but it's not really that hard to believe when you think about the state of (and cost of) air travel, which we take for granted today.
 
Also the population of the west coast cities hadn't boomed yet.  
 
9 of the top 10 cities in the US were east of the Mississippi in 1940, and Los Angeles was only #5--no Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, San Diego, etc. 
 
By 1980, 5 of the top 10 were in the west and LA was nearly tied with Chicago for the #2 spot.
 
By 2010 it was 7 of the top 10 (with only New York, Philly, and Chicago to the east) and #2 LA has more than a million more than Chicago.