The 2015 MLB HOF Ballot Tracker
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I actually think Harold may have put some thought into his ballot after realizing that Pedro and RJ were definitely getting in. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt even though he's a known idiot.
JohntheBaptist said:
I'm pretty sure he doesn't actually think Clemens was worse than those guys.
Bonds but no Clemens is the weird one. But again, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume there's a logic there, and the crowded ballot plays a role.
moondog80 said:
If you're sure about that why did he vote for them and not Clemens then? Alternatively, why should I care what he thinks if that's not how he voted? Would love to hear a scenario where that makes sense.
It's not the "weird one," it's the one that makes it a shitty ballot. Not sure from where or why you're drawing your benefit of the doubt considering both the source and that the ballot doesn't really make any sense, but rock on I guess.
Biggio getting in is great. Smoltz, Pedro and Johnson were about as easy as it gets for a voter.
Just to be clear with the discussion about Harold Reynolds' ballot...he doesn't actually have a vote. He's not a member of the BBWAA.
Full results from Pseufighter's link:
Votes Player Percentage
534 Randy Johnson 97.3%
500 Pedro Martinez 91.1%
455 John Smoltz 82.9%
454 Craig Biggio 82.7%
384 Mike Piazza 69.9%
306 Jeff Bagwell 55.7%
302 Tim Raines 55.0%
215 Curt Schilling 39.2%
206 Roger Clemens 37.5%
202 Barry Bonds 36.8%
166 Lee Smith 30.2%
148 Edgar Martinez 27.0%
138 Alan Trammell 25.1%
135 Mike Mussina 24.6%
77 Jeff Kent 14.0%
71 Fred McGriff 12.9%
65 Larry Walker 11.8%
64 Gary Sheffield 11.7%
55 Mark McGwire 10.0%
50 Don Mattingly 9.1%
36 Sammy Sosa 6.6%
30 Nomar Garciaparra 5.5%
21 Carlos Delgado 3.8%
4 Troy Percival 0.7%
2 Aaron Boone 0.4%
2 Tom Gordon 0.4%
1 Darin Erstad 0.2%
0 Rich Aurilia 0.0%
0 Tony Clark 0.0%
0 Jermaine Dye 0.0%
0 Cliff Floyd 0.0%
0 Brian Giles 0.0%
0 Eddie Guardado 0.0%
0 Jason Schmidt 0.0%
Votes Player Percentage
534 Randy Johnson 97.3%
500 Pedro Martinez 91.1%
455 John Smoltz 82.9%
454 Craig Biggio 82.7%
384 Mike Piazza 69.9%
306 Jeff Bagwell 55.7%
302 Tim Raines 55.0%
215 Curt Schilling 39.2%
206 Roger Clemens 37.5%
202 Barry Bonds 36.8%
166 Lee Smith 30.2%
148 Edgar Martinez 27.0%
138 Alan Trammell 25.1%
135 Mike Mussina 24.6%
77 Jeff Kent 14.0%
71 Fred McGriff 12.9%
65 Larry Walker 11.8%
64 Gary Sheffield 11.7%
55 Mark McGwire 10.0%
50 Don Mattingly 9.1%
36 Sammy Sosa 6.6%
30 Nomar Garciaparra 5.5%
21 Carlos Delgado 3.8%
4 Troy Percival 0.7%
2 Aaron Boone 0.4%
2 Tom Gordon 0.4%
1 Darin Erstad 0.2%
0 Rich Aurilia 0.0%
0 Tony Clark 0.0%
0 Jermaine Dye 0.0%
0 Cliff Floyd 0.0%
0 Brian Giles 0.0%
0 Eddie Guardado 0.0%
0 Jason Schmidt 0.0%
Chris Hatfield @SPChrisHatfield 3m3 minutes ago
Trying to figure out how Unit gets 97 percent and Pedro 91. In grand scheme of things, meaningless, but kind of odd.
Trying to figure out how Unit gets 97 percent and Pedro 91. In grand scheme of things, meaningless, but kind of odd.
Surprised Schiling got 80 more votes than Mussina. Not a lot of difference between them, save October.
soxhop411 said:
Some two New Yorkers whose happiest moments include 2003 ALCS game 7?drleather2001 said:
Love looking at the bottom of the list to see who drew some votes--Darin Erstad with one, Flash Gordon with two. Everyday Eddie Guardado shut out 
That's true of course. Still, Mussina's got a long way to go. Thought the win total would give him more votes from the Old Guard.adam42381 said:
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E5 Yaz said:
That's actually an interesting back-test for the Ballot Tracker, to find the bias inherent in the votes they're able to track.
The Ballot Tracker had Piazza at ~76% among public ballots. It seems that the earlier and more public a ballot is, the more likely they are to have a new-school approach to their voting. The ballot tracker topped out at covering 33% of available votes, so if 75% of those 33% had Piazza on, and he finished at 70%, then the other two-thirds of voters must have voted for him at a 60% clip. Dramatic difference, and puts the lie to any idea that the public votes are an unbiased selection of all votes.
Some of these voters just can't die fast enough.
I'd love to hear some reasoning from the other 66% of voters on Piazza. He's a white guy who played in New York, that should theoretically help him. I'm certain Pedro lost votes from 75 year old ex-New York sportswriters who thought he was an uppity so-and-so.
So, assuming Erstad's mom changes her vote from Darin to Piazza, Piazza gets in? How did Mrs. Erstadt get a vote anyhow?TheGazelle said:
Other than that, it doesn't appear that the real throw away votes (Erstad, Gordon, Boone, and Percival) affected the outcome.
Mattingly's 50 votes need to go somewhere next year - Bagwell and Raines splitting them would be fine with me.
When can people stop voting for Trammell?
drleather2001 said:
Don't know about the other one, but one of the guys who voted for Boone was Hal McCoy. Apparently, McCoy had a stroke in early 2003 and was so overwhelmed with everything that he planned to quit the writing profession until Boone took him aside and convinced him to stay on the job.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/cincinnatireds/entries/2009/09/14/it_sounds_goofy_i_know.html/
McCoy said that his vote was cast as a thank you to Boone.
Spacemans Bong said:
As you pointed out, 97% of the public ballots named Pedro compared to 87% of those who did not make their ballot public.
The same voters who would look down on Pedro are the ones who listened when Murry Chass told then that Piazza was probably a PED user because of back acne.