The ‘18-‘19 Kings/Grizzlies/Clippers: Tracking the Picks

NomarsFool

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At least for a day, Sacramento is back in the lottery and LAC is back in the playoffs. Let's hope it stays there.
 

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At least for a day, Sacramento is back in the lottery and LAC is back in the playoffs. Let's hope it stays there.
If the Clippers beat out the Kings (or Lakers) for the playoffs by one game, that 28-point comeback will look a little different in retrospect.
 

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Amick reporting Ballmer does not want to tank to get the pick this year, and the Clips will try to get in the playoffs. That helps us a ton.
 

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The last time something like this happened was the year the Celtics were supposed to be tanking in what looked like a real strong draft but IT helped drag them to a pointless playoff appearance that landed them the 16th pick.

It sucked, but Ainge ended up pulling a better player there than half the guys taken in front of him anyway. It'll be fine.
It’ll be fine if they’re looking for a role player. If they want s trade asset, not so much. And I’d probably dispute your claim on Yabu, but that’s subjective.

It’s disappointing but it was a free pick basically. House money etc etc.
 

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It’ll be fine if they’re looking for a role player. If they want s trade asset, not so much. And I’d probably dispute your claim on Yabu, but that’s subjective.

It’s disappointing but it was a free pick basically. House money etc etc.
Rozier in 2015, drafted after Okafor, Hezonja, Mudiay, Johnson, Kaminsky, Lyles, and Payne.
 

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Amick reporting Ballmer does not want to tank to get the pick this year, and the Clips will try to get in the playoffs. That helps us a ton.
I don't understand what this means. Ballmer wants to make the playoffs.....awesome! Do defenses now have to gameplan against him stretching them out from 3? The Clippers traded a large portion of their key rotation players which is the issue for them the rest of this season short of shutting down Lou, Gallo, and Montrezl.
 

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I don't understand what this means. Ballmer wants to make the playoffs.....awesome! Do defenses now have to gameplan against him stretching them out from 3? The Clippers traded a large portion of their key rotation players which is the issue for them the rest of this season short of shutting down Lou, Gallo, and Montrezl.
Monkey Boy is one heck of a cheerleader, maybe he can wake up that lax LA crowd.

 

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His old Microsoft shareholder meetings were LEGENDARY!!
He was a bit of a kook and the complete polar opposite of Bill Gates. Steve was Microsoft CEO for 14yrs. MSFT flatlined during Ballmer's tenure, as Steve Jobs/AAPL came back and ate their lunch.

Back to the Clippers, Doc is doing a great job and don't see him tanking one iota. Also, love watching how hard Montrezl Harrell plays night in/night out, that guy has so much dog in him as a 6'8" center.
 
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Cesar Crespo

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I don't understand what this means. Ballmer wants to make the playoffs.....awesome! Do defenses now have to gameplan against him stretching them out from 3? The Clippers traded a large portion of their key rotation players which is the issue for them the rest of this season short of shutting down Lou, Gallo, and Montrezl.
I think they have enough talent to still make the playoffs. They have a 3 game lead over the Lakers and only 1 game behind 5th seed Houston, and 3 behind 4th seed Portland. I'm not sure the Kings stay in the race but I'm also not sure the Clippers will be the ones who miss the playoffs if the Kings or Lakers happen to make it. Utah, SA and Houston have more talent but health and luck are going to play a huge factor.

Hell, I think the Wolves have the talent to make a run too but have no faith they will.
 

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Kings giving the Thunder the business on the road. I think they’re going to take the 8 seed from both LA teams.
 

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It has been said over and over, but man that Kings team is a joy to watch (so long as you can set aside your desires for them to fail). Fox and Hield are my favoreite backcourt in the league
 

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It has been said over and over, but man that Kings team is a joy to watch (so long as you can set aside your desires for them to fail). Fox and Hield are my favoreite backcourt in the league
Posts like this make me sad. Can we just start a Kings splooge fest thread already? We’re losing focus here during a trying season...
 

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Kings up double digits early at Wolves. This is a playoff team. I’m fully convinced at this point.
 

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It feels weird that I care more about the results of WC games a lot more than I care about Celtics games results. Whether the Celtics finish 3rd, 4th, or 5th will have very little impact on the season. They will face a team in the first round they should easily beat, and then have to beat Toronto and Milwaukee on the road on some order.

But if the Clippers hold on to a playoff spot, that changes the Celtics future in a tangible way. Maybe that's the difference between having or not having to include the Memphis pick in the AD trade.
 

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Whether the Celtics finish 3rd, 4th, or 5th will have very little impact on the season. They will face a team in the first round they should easily beat, and then have to beat Toronto and Milwaukee on the road on some order.
Better hope that the 4/5 series isn't against PHI.
 

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I’m not taking the first round for granted at all. Both Philly and Indy would be a real challenge for the Celtics.
 

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Probably less dangerous without Ilyasova and Bellinelli.
I don't know. They replaced Covington and Saric with Butler and Harris. That is a huge huge upgrade to the starting lineup and more than makes up any downgrade from Ilyasova and Bellinelli to whatever combo of Scott/Simmons/etc they throw out there
 

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A Philly/Celts 4/5 matchup could mean the Celts would have to beat Philly, Toronto and the Bucks for the right to face the Warriors. That's putting in the work! Celts need to earn the 3 seed.
 

Cesar Crespo

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The Spurs have lost 7/8 and the Clippers have climbed into the 7 seed. I think we'll end up with something like 10, 15, 23 with a very real chance of the Memphis pick conveying this year. I think the Clippers pick is close to a lock but I'm probably alone in feeling that. I think the Kings are going to fall back a little too. I could see Orlando, Minnesota and the Lakers possibly passing the Kings.

Even if those 3 teams do pass the Kings, they are still the 11th seed. Kinda sucks. Here is to good luck. I think there is a very real chance we could use all the picks to replace the bench that is leaving. I don't think there's going to be a roster crunch.
 

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The Spurs have lost 7/8 and the Clippers have climbed into the 7 seed. I think we'll end up with something like 10, 15, 23 with a very real chance of the Memphis pick conveying this year. I think the Clippers pick is close to a lock but I'm probably alone in feeling that. I think the Kings are going to fall back a little too. I could see Orlando, Minnesota and the Lakers possibly passing the Kings.

Even if those 3 teams do pass the Kings, they are still the 11th seed. Kinda sucks. Here is to good luck. I think there is a very real chance we could use all the picks to replace the bench that is leaving. I don't think there's going to be a roster crunch.
The Spurs just completed a brutal road schedule and are now 12-22 away from home. They’ve been pretty lethal at home where they play 8 of their next 10 so I wouldn’t quite count them out yet.
 

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The Spurs just completed a brutal road schedule and are now 12-22 away from home. They’ve been pretty lethal at home where they play 8 of their next 10 so I wouldn’t quite count them out yet.
That's fair, but those 8 home games include OKC, Denver, Milwaukee, Portland, and Golden State. They have Detroit, Miami and NY too, and their 2 road games are against Atlanta and Dallas. Interesting stretch.
 

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The Spurs have lost 7/8 and the Clippers have climbed into the 7 seed. I think we'll end up with something like 10, 15, 23 with a very real chance of the Memphis pick conveying this year. I think the Clippers pick is close to a lock but I'm probably alone in feeling that. I think the Kings are going to fall back a little too. I could see Orlando, Minnesota and the Lakers possibly passing the Kings.

Even if those 3 teams do pass the Kings, they are still the 11th seed. Kinda sucks. Here is to good luck. I think there is a very real chance we could use all the picks to replace the bench that is leaving. I don't think there's going to be a roster crunch.
I would bet large sums of money on the Memphis pick not conveying this year. I think Sac is making the playoffs still. No chance they fall victim to a late season swoon...
 

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I would bet large sums of money on the Memphis pick not conveying this year. I think Sac is making the playoffs still. No chance they fall victim to a late season swoon...
I dunno. What is the percentage of the 6, 7th or 8th worst teams getting a pick that is 9th or worse? They don't have to finish 9th or worse to end up with a pick 9th or worse, do they?
 

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I dunno. What is the percentage of the 6, 7th or 8th worst teams getting a pick that is 9th or worse? They don't have to finish 9th or worse to end up with a pick 9th or worse, do they?
The odds of that happening are incredibly low. I could see one team in that 7-9 range getting lucky but not the 2 or 3 that it would take to move Memphis to #9.
 

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The odds of that happening are incredibly low. I could see one team in that 7-9 range getting lucky but not the 2 or 3 that it would take to move Memphis to #9.
Assuming they stay 6th, anyway. They are neck to neck with the Wizards and Dallas and NO didn't exactly improve over the deadline. I guess a lot of it depends on how often Davis plays and if the Mavs try and tank hard to keep their pick.

Memphis did trade Gasol so maybe their stance has changed on wanting the pick to convey to Boston this year. If they still want the pick to convey, it worries me a bit because there will be a few teams tanking. Talent wise, I think they are worse than the Wiz, Mavs, Pelicans. The Wiz are also only 4 games out of the playoff picture in a pretty weak east. Personally, I think Memphis should be trying to keep their pick and go into tank mode. I could see Atlanta possibly passing them. Dallas should probably be tanking too. The 6th spot gives them a 37.2% at a top 4 pick while the 8th spot has a 26.2% chance at a top 4 pick. Kinda interesting that the 5th spot only gives them a 44.3% chance at keeping their pick. The 5th spot in the draft only has a 2.2% chance of drafting 5th. Still, 11% is nothing to laugh at.

I never really looked too much into the new odds but they are very interesting and gives any team in the lottery a decent chance at landing a top 5 pick. The 3 worst teams have the same odds to land the top 4 picks.

The odds of Memphis being 6th and drafting 9th is 3.7.%. Their odds of drafting 10th are 0.1%. A 3.8% chance.
The odds of Memphis being 7th and drafting 9th 12.9%, 10th 1.3%, 11th <.0% A 14.2% chance.
The odds of Memphis being 8th and drafting 9th is 32.1%, 10th is 6.8%, 11th is 0.4% and 12th is <.0%. A a 39.3% chance.
The odds of Memphis being 9th and drafting in the top 4 is 20.2%.

The odds of the Kings pick conveying between 2-4
14th 1.9% chance of 2-4
13th 4.5% chance of 2-4
12th 4.8%
11th 7.4%
10th 10.9%
9th 15.7%
8th 20.2%
And there is basically no chance the will finish worst than 8th.

We should be rooting very hard for Memphis to finish with the 6th worst record and for the Kings to finish 11th. I don't see them realistically doing worse than 11th but here's hoping.

Wouldn't it be something if Memphis finished 6th worst, the Kings finished 14th worst, and the Memphis pick conveyed at 9 and the Kings pick conveyed at 2? That would be a complete mind fuck.

edit: http://www.tankathon.com/pick_odds
 

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Dallas really, really needs to tank, and hard. Getting a top 5 pick this year and then likely conveying a non-lottery in 2020 is so big for the franchise’s possible trajectory.